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@Best.Korea
“National sovereignty refers to a country's independent power to govern itself within its own territory, meaning it has the authority to make its own laws, manage its internal affairs, and choose its own political system without undue interference from other nations; essentially, it's the principle of a nation's right to self-governance within its borders.
Key points about national sovereignty:
- Self-determination:A sovereign nation decides its own policies and actions without external control.
- International law principle:National sovereignty is a fundamental concept in international law, allowing countries to govern their own domestic affairs.
- Limitations:While sovereign, nations still need to adhere to international laws and treaties they have signed.”
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@Best.Korea
Not sure how you achieve that by chasing around migrants.
That’s because you have selective reading comprehension. From my earlier post:
“The President’s deportation initiative is purported to focus on troublemakers.”
How DO you think national sovereignty is achieved (dare I even ask)? And please refrain from telling me how it is not achieved.
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@IlDiavolo
do you agree with the change of the Gulf of Mexico's name to Gulf of America?
Meh, I don’t really care either way. Perhaps good for a chuckle. Technically, this entire hemisphere comprises the Americas (North, Central, and South).
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@Best.Korea
Thats not an unwanted consequence. You want more migrants to replace your mostly sterilized population.
Tell it to Japan, Yu-Gi-Oh!
Well, if you want to copy other countries, go ahead.
It’s not a matter of merely copying other countries; it’s a matter of the universal desire to preserve national sovereignty.
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@FLRW
What Would Jesus Do?
Jesus does whatever people want him to do, which leads to fascinating contradictions…
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@Greyparrot
Last I checked, Australia charges a non refundable fee of $4000 just to apply for residency. They even threatened to double that fee. It is very dehumanizing.
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@Best.Korea
I was explaining why migrants are good, and why it is in US interest to turn most of illegal migrants into legal migrants instead of deporting them.
That is merely a feelgood policy proposal with unintended consequences. The unwanted consequence of blanket amnesty would be heavily incentivizing more incursions at the border. The President’s deportation initiative is purported to focus on troublemakers.
So if someone doesnt have record of a crime, he can enter USA.
Any non criminal should be freely able to reside in any country permanently then. Why does no country have that policy?
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@Greyparrot
Nice! Please, keep us updated on how that goes. As for me, I just finished my oatmeal. Yum!
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@RemyBrown
Alright; I'm a communist now. The label I don't really care about.
Thanks for sharing. I’m eating oatmeal currently.
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@Best.Korea
The takeaway is that migrants are people too just like Americans, migrants bring in their money, and US birth rates due to its sterilized population are not enough to replace workforce.
That takeaway does not contradict the President’s policies.
Those are not the only two options.
Sure. Care to expand?
Edit: By “closed borders” I actually mean secure, controlled borders with regulated immigration, not “no immigration at all.”
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@Best.Korea
Still much more crime than in migrant population.
Again, what is the takeaway from the immigrant crime data?
Open borders are favorable to closed borders? Then why does every country have closed borders?
Illegal immigrants should be able to become police officers?
The threat of deportation is a more effective deterrent than the US prison system?
Childbirth inside US borders should be discouraged?
And what is the crime data for US born children of illegal immigrants?
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@FLRW
undocumented immigrants have a 41% lower total criminal conviction rate than native-born Americans.
So, one can conclude that open immigration would be ideal?
Unless they commit 0 crimes (other than illegally entering), illegal immigrants actually do increase overall crime; they just reduce the overall crime rate when included as members of the US population. The problem is that these crimes are committed by people who shouldn’t even be here to commit them. And crime isn’t the only issue— costly social services and porous borders are incompatible with each other.
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@Savant
These sorts of misunderstandings occur every so often. Yet some people will simply insist on getting the wrong idea:
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The continuous false equivalencies from the right never cease to amaze me. There are several, objective reasons why the GOP is worse than the Democratic Party. They are well summarized here:
The two parties are not the same.
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@Shila
You’re entitled to your opinion, but the ADL disagrees with your conclusion.
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@Reece101
It appears to be his gesture for “my heart goes out to you!”
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@Lemming
I am not of the opinion that it is bad IF humans all share the same values and goals. I am saying that it is misguided to assume that humans globally share the same values and goals, which humanism appears to do. I am about living in the world as it is, not as I wish it were.
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@Lemming
Perhaps you understand my issues with humanism; perhaps you do not— it’s hard to tell. When I see you make a point I actually understand yet disagree with, I read on to find you rebutting yourself:
My argument though, is I'm not sure such is 'bad, if people share common views, values, laws,
Course, I agree with you I think, that not all humans share the same values and goals.
To be clear: humanism is not my least favorite worldview— I mean, I’m 100% humanist according to this!— I just take various issues with it as I have pointed out.
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@Sidewalker
I am pond scum and should be the poster child for retroactive abortions, but here are the top 41 ways to cook and eat tree bark...
I also identify as both Japanese and trans.
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I haven't seen those, no.
Here:
And here’s a welcome countersign I just found:
Detracting from national sovereignty in favor of global oneness,I'd think would be common in most Isms?
How so? And if so, what about it?
Arguably it's how one 'gets nations.
Striving for global oneness is how one gets nations? I don’t think so.
I could see how a person who values themself or group highly, might dislike the collective being put over themself.Though I'd think people could still highly value the collective, yet their own group as well.'Ideally, I'm hopeful that a number of the laws that apply to many countries, war laws for example, are not done 'purely out of self benefit, but out of appreciation for the 'Other humans as well.
Humanism is not a prerequisite for international laws of war or for international cooperation. I agree with valuing the collective insofar as it comprises patriotism, as I implied originally.
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@Sidewalker
Add in a confounding amount of symbols and linear algebraic gibberish and one arrives at post #3 above…
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Only in America can a Slovenian nude model qualify for an Einstein visa and be an honored guest at an inauguration.
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@WyIted
True. Fast forward to 2028 prior to Trump’s departure from office, Trump can do the same exact thing with the precedent set today.
Here’s the neat thing though: pardonees can no longer claim the 5th, so they can still be investigated and cross examined, just not charged.
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@Greyparrot
I get the reasoning, but if the Justice system is broken under Trump like they say, then everyone should be immune from courts, not just a few lucky people.
Touché (to my devil’s advocate reasoning)
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@WyIted
Or is this a case of the DOJ is a weapon under Trump but if you are a neocon or neoliberal than it is completely fair always and completely without bias?
Exactly
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@Greyparrot
They don’t need protection from the law but from what will surely be Trump’s weaponized, vindictive DOJ operating under Trump’s orders with total immunity.
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Here’s a game idea: write a post in the style of another poster and see how many tries it takes to guess the correct poster. It’s not a very large group here, so it shouldn’t be too difficult. Here goes:
The sun rises… the sun sets.
In between, we must “toil the earth” and whatnot.
Hopefully, there’s also time to live a little and love a little… or a lot even.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Life in a nutshell…
Who am I?
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@Lemming
Ever see those “In this house, we believe: no human is illegal; science is real; love is love; etc” signs? Those are the preachy, virtue signalling signs of humanism. Also:
Projects own values onto others, and not everyone has the same values
Emphasizes collectivism and global oneness over individualism and patriotism
Relies chiefly on government solutions
Detracts from national sovereignty in favor of global oneness
Engenders a “for your own good” paternalism
Engenders a resentment or condescension of the religious
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A contrast between Trump voters and Harris voters on Tik Tok:
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100% humanist, which debunks this little quiz imo, as I have problems with humanism. Instead, this result should mean “atheist, science literate, and emotionally healthy.”
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@ebuc
Nice! That is funk/soul in the tradition of Tower of Power, who are great:
I actually thought you were going to play something more obscure and esoteric, as jazz fusion tends to be, such as this:
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@Best.Korea
Not everyone can be Japanese…
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@Best.Korea
Again, you need to warn immigrants to the US about your observations here.
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@Best.Korea
Hitler didnt believe in borders.
That’s a big difference in belief from Trump.
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@Shila
Oh, is Hitler back in charge of Germany now?
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@Best.Korea
You should warn immigrants about this at the border.
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