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@Lemming
I am not of the opinion that it is bad IF humans all share the same values and goals. I am saying that it is misguided to assume that humans globally share the same values and goals, which humanism appears to do. I am about living in the world as it is, not as I wish it were.
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@Lemming
Perhaps you understand my issues with humanism; perhaps you do not— it’s hard to tell. When I see you make a point I actually understand yet disagree with, I read on to find you rebutting yourself:
My argument though, is I'm not sure such is 'bad, if people share common views, values, laws,
Course, I agree with you I think, that not all humans share the same values and goals.
To be clear: humanism is not my least favorite worldview— I mean, I’m 100% humanist according to this!— I just take various issues with it as I have pointed out.
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@Sidewalker
I am pond scum and should be the poster child for retroactive abortions, but here are the top 41 ways to cook and eat tree bark...
I also identify as both Japanese and trans.
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I haven't seen those, no.
Here:
And here’s a welcome countersign I just found:
Detracting from national sovereignty in favor of global oneness,I'd think would be common in most Isms?
How so? And if so, what about it?
Arguably it's how one 'gets nations.
Striving for global oneness is how one gets nations? I don’t think so.
I could see how a person who values themself or group highly, might dislike the collective being put over themself.Though I'd think people could still highly value the collective, yet their own group as well.'Ideally, I'm hopeful that a number of the laws that apply to many countries, war laws for example, are not done 'purely out of self benefit, but out of appreciation for the 'Other humans as well.
Humanism is not a prerequisite for international laws of war or for international cooperation. I agree with valuing the collective insofar as it comprises patriotism, as I implied originally.
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@Sidewalker
Add in a confounding amount of symbols and linear algebraic gibberish and one arrives at post #3 above…
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Only in America can a Slovenian nude model qualify for an Einstein visa and be an honored guest at an inauguration.
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@WyIted
True. Fast forward to 2028 prior to Trump’s departure from office, Trump can do the same exact thing with the precedent set today.
Here’s the neat thing though: pardonees can no longer claim the 5th, so they can still be investigated and cross examined, just not charged.
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@Greyparrot
I get the reasoning, but if the Justice system is broken under Trump like they say, then everyone should be immune from courts, not just a few lucky people.
Touché (to my devil’s advocate reasoning)
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@WyIted
Or is this a case of the DOJ is a weapon under Trump but if you are a neocon or neoliberal than it is completely fair always and completely without bias?
Exactly
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@Greyparrot
They don’t need protection from the law but from what will surely be Trump’s weaponized, vindictive DOJ operating under Trump’s orders with total immunity.
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Here’s a game idea: write a post in the style of another poster and see how many tries it takes to guess the correct poster. It’s not a very large group here, so it shouldn’t be too difficult. Here goes:
The sun rises… the sun sets.
In between, we must “toil the earth” and whatnot.
Hopefully, there’s also time to live a little and love a little… or a lot even.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Life in a nutshell…
Who am I?
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@Lemming
Ever see those “In this house, we believe: no human is illegal; science is real; love is love; etc” signs? Those are the preachy, virtue signalling signs of humanism. Also:
Projects own values onto others, and not everyone has the same values
Emphasizes collectivism and global oneness over individualism and patriotism
Relies chiefly on government solutions
Detracts from national sovereignty in favor of global oneness
Engenders a “for your own good” paternalism
Engenders a resentment or condescension of the religious
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A contrast between Trump voters and Harris voters on Tik Tok:
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100% humanist, which debunks this little quiz imo, as I have problems with humanism. Instead, this result should mean “atheist, science literate, and emotionally healthy.”
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@ebuc
Nice! That is funk/soul in the tradition of Tower of Power, who are great:
I actually thought you were going to play something more obscure and esoteric, as jazz fusion tends to be, such as this:
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@Best.Korea
Not everyone can be Japanese…
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@Best.Korea
Again, you need to warn immigrants to the US about your observations here.
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@Best.Korea
Hitler didnt believe in borders.
That’s a big difference in belief from Trump.
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@Shila
Oh, is Hitler back in charge of Germany now?
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@Best.Korea
You should warn immigrants about this at the border.
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@ludofl3x
This is what a landed gentry might look like, and it isn’t pretty:
In any case, the US already has an estate tax which applies to estates of $14 million or more. Many states have it starting at $1 million.
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@n8nrgim
Obviously, some women dress slutty to get attention. Knowing that there is such a thing as unwanted attention, such women tend to be in groups for mutual protection. Dressed slutty and clearly alone? Well, that might be unwise…
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@Shila
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@Shila
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@Shila
Why did Einstein leave Germany?
… asked no one ever.
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@Shila
Yes, where he was free to speak in favor of socialism. As I said, he was smart.
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@Savant
Einstein supported socialism, and he was, like, really smart and shit.
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@Savant
Capitalism is doomed to fail because it adheres to the rules of mathematics?
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@IlDiavolo
Oh. But the video was about taking a good spot, not a bad one. Lol.
Indeed. It was meant to be humorously ironic. Fail, I guess. Your thread is about a competition for the bottom instead of the top, but it is still a competition.
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@IlDiavolo
The video is about taking the #1 spot. “Cougar lost it— turned in his wings. YOU’RE #1!”
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@Shila
My opinion does not compute.
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@IlDiavolo
George W. Bush had my #1 spot for worst president of my lifetime until the Afghanistan withdrawal. That bumped Biden into the #1 spot.
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@Savant
It's a redundant phrase, now that I think about it. I guess something like "X is false" would be a claim but not an affirmative claim.
Right; that’s what I’m talking about. To my understanding:
“I am a fireman.” -> affirmative— or positive— claim
“I am not a fireman.” -> negative claim
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@Savant
Agnostic atheists often say that their position makes no affirmative claims
Eh, I think the idea here is that their position regarding deities makes no claims regarding deities— not that they never make any claims about ANYTHING.
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@Savant
So, how is an “affirmative claim” distinct from simply a “claim”? The reason I am asking all this is because I had a different view of what “affirmative claim” meant than what your OP suggests.
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@Savant
What is the name for the opposite of an affirmative claim, and what would be an example of that type of claim?
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@Savant
How do you define “affirmative claim”?
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@Mharman
Frankly, I think this conversation is difficult for you to translate.
Tru dat:
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