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@Mopac
For someone who worships a dictionary you have an almost complete non understanding of word meanings.
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@Mercies
As long as you know that your religion is filling a need you have, that doesn't make it true. Some people use chocolate to fill a need and that need is not hunger.
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@Mopac
Zeus is the ultimate reality, no zeus is this.
Yeah fuckin' stupid isn't it?
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@Mopac
And I don't think you understannd that denying God undermines every single thing you say,
All gods are the creation of man.
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@Mercies
In all of your studies did you determine what need you were fulfilling?
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@Castin
Well maybe 30% of humanity, not impressive really.This story is part of the heritage of humanity,
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@Greyparrot
You love arguing with yourself probably because you have no fucking idea what you are talking about.
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@Greyparrot
Rubbish! There has always been batshit crazy politicians.
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@Alec
Why not they've already elected one brain dead dummy, they may do it again.
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@Alec
You are under the misapprehension that government determines the guilt or innocence of an accused. Your OP is evidence of a child's POV and that is understandable.
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@PGA2.0
Now show where any of this exists in the prophesy you quote. Dan 9 24:27.
Your claim is that if the prophesy said something else then it's fulfilled, oh durrr.
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@PGA2.0
The destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 as one.
Allegedly prophesied to occur 388yrs earlier, fail.
The destruction of the Jewish OT economy in AD 70 as another.
Where was that prophesied?
The predicted coming of the Jewish Messiah to a Mosaic Covenant people as another.
The Jews do not accept that this has been fulfilled, in fact it is still something they pray for.
Three strikes...............you're OUT.
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@PGA2.0
Does the empire state building exist, is it mentioned or depicted in spiderman comics? That then is evidence that spiderman exists irl.If what the claims said is confirmed by historical evidence, such as the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple yet once again, that would be evidence that confirms and verifies the claim.
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@PGA2.0
And that time frame is 70 weeks. Show me a different time frame in that prophesy.The same can be said of Daniel 9:24-27. It is a very specific prophecy concerning very specific people (Daniel's people who are in a covenant relationship with God) plus a very specific time frame in which specific events will happen.
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@PGA2.0
It is, who are the armies (plural) mentioned in this very specific "prophesy" hahahahahahThis prophecy is very specific
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@keithprosser
The prophesy ONLY mentions 70 weeks, the prophesy does not allow for any other time frame, the prophesy quoted by the golfer is an abject failure.
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@PGA2.0
Any historical facts that confirm the fulfillment of any prophesy.What historical facts in relation to prophecy are you speaking of?
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@PGA2.0
This is your quote.Regarding prophecy, did the OT predict another building and destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the Jewish system of worship before it happened (i.e., Daniel 9:24-27 as one such passage)? Is that reasonable to believe? If you think not then provide evidence as to why.
Below are those passages.
24 Seventy weeks are decreed upon thy people and upon thy holy city, [j]to finish [k]transgression, and [l]to make an end of sins, and to [m]make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up vision and [n]prophecy, and to anoint [o]the most holy. 25 Know therefore and discern, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto [p]the anointed one, the prince, shall be [q]seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: it shall be built again, with street and moat, even in troublous times. 26 And after the threescore and two weeks shall the anointed one be cut off, and [r]shall have nothing: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and even unto the end shall be war; desolations are determined. 27 And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the [s]oblation to cease; and [t]upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate.
Show me where in the prophesy you quote, Daniel 9:24-27, 490yrs is mentioned.
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@Vader
Just that the Dump has a greater chance of achieving that.
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@Vader
So would flying to the moon in a balloon.
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@Mopac
Wrong again. Being in hell is what your god created them for.
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@Mopac
All 40,000 sects thereof including the other 39,999 sects they don't belong to.
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@Mopac
Respond to my post.
-> @Mopac
Loving God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. The first commandment and greatest commandment.And the second is like it. Love thy neighbor as thyself. Where does that come from? Recognizing that we were created in the image of God. To love others is to love God.
After you have complied with the first commandment What will you love your neighbour with?
Loving God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength.
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@Mopac
You missed this.
-> @Mopac
Loving God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. The first commandment and greatest commandment.And the second is like it. Love thy neighbor as thyself. Where does that come from? Recognizing that we were created in the image of God. To love others is to love God.
After you have complied with the first commandment What will you love your neighbour with?
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@PGA2.0
Regarding prophecy, did the OT predict another building and destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the Jewish system of worship before it happened (i.e., Daniel 9:24-27 as one such passage)? Is that reasonable to believe? If you think not then provide evidence as to why.
Umm no, this prophecy is false. The destruction did not occur 70 weeks after the prophecy
24 Seventy weeks are decreed upon thy people and upon thy holy city, [j]to finish [k]transgression, and [l]to make an end of sins, and to [m]make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up vision and [n]prophecy, and to anoint [o]the most holy. 25 Know therefore and discern, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto [p]the anointed one, the prince, shall be [q]seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: it shall be built again, with street and moat, even in troublous times. 26 And after the threescore and two weeks shall the anointed one be cut off, and [r]shall have nothing: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and even unto the end shall be war; desolations are determined. 27 And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the [s]oblation to cease; and [t]upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate.
The Bible is confirmed by what we know of history (and I claim it is logic to believe also). The Bible gives a consistent and coherent explanation of the universe, life, morality, truth, etc. Your worldview does not. It acts inconsistently with its core foundational beliefs.
History rejects the notion that the Jews were slaves in Egypt for 400yrs. History rejects the notion of 4 million people wandering a small wilderness for 40yrs. Science has proved that there was never a worldwide flood and history records that. Your bible is not confirmed by history, it is proven wrong at every turn by history.
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@b9_ntt
So to a universe. So to gods.
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@keithprosser
But it's not a matter of eating humble pie it's a command to submit.No better than the other claimed gods, being real doesn't entitle him to my submission. If he isn't worthy of my submission then he can go fuck himself, if all he requires is billions of people to lie to him then he's not a god at all.
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@keithprosser
No the OP claims that you submit or burn. No different to many other gods, unworthy of worship.
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The fact that you will be dead when you die will not change no matter how many fairy tales you believe in.
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Hello Napoleon how is your personal experience going?
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A bit rude putting all women in your boat.
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@Mopac
Loving God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. The first commandment and greatest commandment.And the second is like it. Love thy neighbor as thyself. Where does that come from? Recognizing that we were created in the image of God. To love others is to love God.
After you have complied with the first commandment What will you love your neighbour with?
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FAITH- trust or confidence in someone or something without evidence.
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@Mopac
Ya fullo crap Issy.
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@PGA2.0
Just because every word you write is a lie you have no right to project your behaviour on me
If this were true (and you just make a claim without any support)
You must love being wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_L._Moore
Moore has stated he is not a Muslim (although he believes Muhammad as a messenger of God)
Notable work
Clinically Oriented AnatomyGo and hide under your rock.
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@Tradesecret
I love it when the godist surrenders unconditionally.
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@Mopac
So you lie to yourself about being vegan as well.
In what direction is the cabbage facing when you slaughter it and do you say a prayer without vowels when you do?
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@Tradesecret
Buy some cognitive dissonance.I never said that I did not believe the eucharist was not the body and blood of Christ. I said it was not the literal body and blood of Christ.
it is really Christ. But it is not literally Christ.
Buy some cognitive dissonance.
Either they are of the body of Christ or they are not
And you believe it's both. HOORAH
Buy some cognitive dissonance.
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@Tradesecret
Post #200 Trady, have a go.
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@Tradesecret
Finally you agree with me.
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@Tradesecret
You have no problem calling your god a liar when he disagrees with you, is that permitted in your religion, whatever that is?
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There are no good arguments for atheism
But there are no arguments for theism.
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@Tradesecret
but why assume a pedophile's brain is wired up wrongly? Why is it not others who heads are wired up wrongly? And how can we decide what is wrong or right? It all becomes a difficult project. what is normal? Who says what is normal?
Really? I mean really? You are incapable of determining whether child rape is right or wrong, what a pathetic excuse for a human being. It's a good thing you have no balls and can't procreate.
Why would you not want P to have sex with kids? and why not? So if the P and his friends lobby and get laws into place which allow P to have sex with children, we should see it as only competing actions?
You and your friends will never have your sexual proclivities legalized because humans outnumber you.
It is wrong not only because of pain and suffering but also because of lack of consent and a whole lot of other matters. I think mostly people talk about subjective morals until it happens to them. It is like the communist who believes everything belongs to everyone - until you steal the money from his wallet. I also think you - mean there is no such thing as objective morality - not morality per se.
Well you've proven by this post that you have no morality but rely on the morality of the IPSS who promoted child rape. Read your book.
Thanks for your thoughts Keith. I don't agree with you. I think there is wrong and there is right. I think P is wrong and I think Rape is wrong. I think murder is wrong. Yet, I also accept that there is a significant issue with people discussing evil or right and wrong. Especially when it comes to discussing the existence of God or not. After all, if absolute evil does not exist for the atheist - then evil can never be attributed speculatively or not to a hypothetical deity.
Creating billions of souls for the express purpose of torturing them for eternity is the epitome of evil, a big shout out to your god.
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@Mopac
And you don't have the grace of god. OK
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@Mopac
Remember your life of continual repentence? If your repentence was sincere you wouldn't need to continually do it.
The life of a Christian is one of repentance.
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