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@PGA2.0
And the central point in the abortion debate is what is the unborn? It is a human being.
There is only one question and that is a woman's right to autonomy of her body and her right to remove a growth from her body, there are no other humans involved.
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@Tradesecret
You are basing an argument on an English language convention, which is simply absurd. What letters were used as a name for your god before an Englishman decided it should be a capital G?
Old English, of Germanic origin; related to Dutch god and German Gott .
Oddly, the exact origin of the word God is unknown.
All that we know for certain is that the word God is a relatively new European invention, which was never used in any of the ancient Judaeo-Christian scripture manuscripts which were written in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek or Latin.Amusingly, none of the prophets, sages and disciples who wrote down the various books of the Bible would recognize or understand this recently invented word God. Yet people fight over it!
You need to get over it.
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@Tradesecret
None of this will get you life everlasting and you will never know that. Sad isn't it?
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@PGA2.0
Yes, I can show it as reasonable and logical because only one system is necessary for morality and no other meets that criterion. If you want to know what is good you need God - the unchanging, benevolent final standard of appeal.
We are fresh out of gods, they don't and never have existed outside of human imagination. You base everything on your fantasy. It's not an adult thing to do.
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@Mopac
Superstitious:
a belief or notion, not based on reason or knowledge, in or of the ominous significance of a particular thing, circumstance, occurrence, proceeding, or the like. a system or collection of such beliefs. a custom or act based on such a belief.
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@Mopac
humility that comes from this realization influence how you deal with yourself and others
You have never demonstrated even a modicum of humility, so as you say, what you say is wrong.
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@Mopac
Don't believe me, believe God. If what I say is true, believe the truth. I am not the authority, God is. If I speak the truth, this truth came from God, not me.
But as a human you are wrong, so when you say you speak the truth that came from god you have already told us that what you say is wrong, as a result the only conclusion we can come to is that we can't believe anything you say.
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@Grugore
You won't. No matter how much death scares you, the fairy tales that you use to pacify those fears won't change the fact that when you die you will just be dead like every life form to have ever existed on this planet.
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Jesus Was Terrified Of What Was To Come.
That's just another part of the fiction that fails the continuity test. If he's god then he has nothing to fear, if he is incapable of controlling his pain receptors then he can't be god at all. If he's god then death has no power over him, nothing to fear, the story is bollocks.
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@Mopac
I know that your holy dictionary is the worst argument for the existence of gods ever presented.
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@Mopac
The Ultimate Reality is what the God concept is refering to. It is The Truth.
There is nothing consistent or coherent in the trash you preach.
Did you read "god concept"
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@Mopac
The Ultimate Reality.That's what God means.
Because a dictionary tells you so.
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@Mopac
Shen = godTao = God
Tao = the way, the natural order, not god. My post stands unchallenged and your is refuted.
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@Mopac
I believe God because I know that The Ultimate Reality is what the God concept is refering to. It is The Truth.
A change of tune.God is the ultimate reality has changed to the god concept is the ultimate reality. Care to explain?
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@PGA2.0
No, I'm not. Pick a topic. Is abortion as a woman's choice good? There, that is a hot topic.Should a woman have the right to choose? Is that a good thing?
Every woman has the sole right to her own body, there isn't even any reason for men to be involved in the discussion.
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@Mopac
Your ultimate reality is contingent on your dictionary.
Wanna try again?
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“Do not act as if you were going to live ten thousand years. Death hangs over you. While you live, while it is in your power, be good.”
― Marcus Aurelius
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Never let the future disturb you. You will meet it, if you have to, with the same weapons of reason which today arm you against the present.
Marcus Aurelius
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@ethang5
Please try to understand the appropriateness of my comment. It's obvious that you don't, so please restrict your comments to posts you do understand not those you don't understand. Thanks.
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@ethang5
Pastor Martin got you to admit that "non fundamentalist" Christians are capable of the same honesty! Lol, given your past positions, I would call the good pastor a miracle worker.
"Pastor Martin got you to admit that "non fundamentalist" Christians are capable of the same honesty!" You failed to include the AS ME. They are capable of my honesty, you never have been. You are one who is included in the club of fundamentalist christian ie those who don't understand that truth.
The thing you are incapable of recognising, because of your overwhelming hatred and bigotry, is that Neimoller's poem is a truth that only fundamentalist christians, nazis and fascists cannot understand.Real people understand such truths inherently, they have no bigotry as influence.
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@PGA2.0
Would the laws still exist if no human mind existed?
No. Just as your gods can't exist without a human mind to create them.
What sort of denial do you need to convince yourself that thousands upon thousands of gods have been created by man and that the one you believe in isn't created by man. Do you have a book or an inscription claiming the existence of your god 3,500yrs ago?
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@ethang5
A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education.
boom tish.
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@ethang5
Yes it's what those of us who's lives aren't dominated by hatred and bigotry are capable of, you'll probably find that non fundamentalist christians are capable of the same honesty because their lives are not dominated by hatred and bigotry.
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@janesix
An "age" is an arbitrary number created by man, it has no intrinsic meaning, it has the meaning assigned to it by man.
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@Mopac
Oh dear. The willful ignorance demonstrated here is indicative of the dishonesty of every post you have ever made.
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@Mopac
Your ultimate reality is contingent on your dictionary.
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@Mopac
From what wickedness should I turn away?
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@PGA2.0
And for an update on the scores sports fans, the golfer has withdrawn with a dislocated eyebrow.
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@ethang5
Nothing close to the beauty and truth of the Neimoller poem was ever written by the savages whose words you believe.
Can you perhaps cite any occasions of school children being killed in the womb, or in fact any children being killed in the womb and can you relate those occasions to your much vaunted second amendment?
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@Plisken
The authority of a nonexistent entity is equally nonexistent.
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@PGA2.0
That your arguments are infantile and futile, I don't think you or any of your fictional conspirators have accepted that fact but you have got your hate on because your infantile, futile arguments are rejected by me for being false, untrue, fiction and you have no valid response. Fairy tales are not a valid response as you have learned
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@PGA2.0
Thus proving that the story itself proves it is a fiction. Well done.
Your god was heard audibly then he must have used MAGIC sans a larynx.
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@PGA2.0
So your god used a computer and the internet to communicate? WOW. BTW you're not talking.
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@PGA2.0
This discussion is going nowhere.
That's because you refuse to recognise reality and maintain your belief in fairy tales even when you know they are untrue.
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@PGA2.0
That's your opinion but the truth is that I won't accept any of your fairy tales and you have nothing but fairy tales so you are defeated before you start.
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Hey mad have you spoken to Napoleon about this? I'm sure he'd have some insights.
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@janesix
What makes you think it has any and why?
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They fear intellect, the application of intellect reduces the chances that their fairy tales will be believed to almost zero.
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@Mopac
Theology is the study of the nature of God.
And yet according to you the only thing you can know about your god is that it is the ultimate reality. That is all there is to the subject "theology".
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@Mopac
So saith the word of god aka a dictionary.
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@ethang5
Yeah it's a pathetic imitation, but probably well meaning even if dreadfully self indulgent.
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@PGA2.0
It's better than good it has you completely flummoxed and no wonder, you run around making unsupportable claims and your claims are always so easy to unstitch. Then as now you have to change your claim without ever admitting that your original claim was false, as I have proven.
Apparently the attribute most beneficial to a godist is an ability to lie at all given moments.
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@PGA2.0
We are discussing the reasonableness and logic of two worldviews
No we aren't we are discussing verifiable facts versus fairy tales written by ignorant, primitive, superstitious bronze/iron age savages. I support the former you claim to believe the latter. Who recorded the events in the GoE, no one because it's just a story concocted to put a religious spin on the origin of man. Evolution and the story itself shows it for the fairy tale it is.
You laid down some opinions of stories written in an ancient book of fiction, that is not facts.
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@PGA2.0
What does god's larynx look like? As a spirit how does that work?
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First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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@Mopac
Answered. Now it's your turn.LOL
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