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@PGA2.0
Did god declare that on the day Adam ate the fruit he would die?
YES
Did Adam die on the day he ate the fruit?
No
Did god lie?
Yes.
You claiming a non existent spiritual death is just you trying to defend your god's lie. Nowhere in the entire OT is spiritual death mentioned, I can only conclude therefore that your story is a lie.
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@Outplayz
Oh no he didn't, his unbridled narcissism would only allow for sycophantic applause.
The world laughed as it does every time he opens his pig ignorant trap, unless the world groans and shakes it's head.
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@ethang5
Reduced to sniping from the grassy knoll and missing again.
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@Mopac
My reply was to GP and your interference was ignorance personified.
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@Mopac
Please enlighten me as to my superstitions.
Gods don't exist ergo I have no understanding of that which doesn't exist, in that we are the same.
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@Mopac
Supreme Being means the same thing as Ultimate Reality.
No it doesn't
Being means existence.
No it doesn't
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@Mopac
You get the point, you are presenting a christian definition for a christian/jewish god and nothing more. If your old book didn't exist you would be worshiping some other god, because you need something to worship.
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@Mopac
My God is The Supreme and Ultimate Reality
God
noun https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/god- 1(in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.
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@Greyparrot
The ability to give birth? WOW
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@Mopac
They are representatives of the NATIONS GP referred to, oops. His statement is patently false and yours is patently ignorant.
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@Mopac
YOU don't have anything to say, Merriam Webster says everything for you, an English language convention defines your god.
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@Mopac
Please enlighten me as to my superstitions.
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@ravensjt
It's quite reasonable to conclude that your argument is an argument in support of creationism and that is not ad hom it is a natural consequence of your argument unless you have an alternative to abiogenesis other than creationism?
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@Mopac
fantasies, vain imaginings= belief in God/Gods/god/gods.
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@Mopac
I see it's time for another godist to run away. That's par for the course.
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@Mopac
Who cares which of the millions of Gods you recognise, because I used a capital G they are all the ultimate reality. Do you see yet just how asinine your non argument is?
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@Mopac
It's all you can understand, you think that an English language convention makes your god real if you give it other names. Just grow up, your attempted argument is asinine.
The capital L in Leprechaun makes Leprechauns real in your world, hoorah. Tell me now all about Leprechauns, I grow weary of your stories regarding your ultimate absurdity.
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@Mopac
If God created everything through an evolutionary process
Please provide bible Ch and Verse to support this claim.
The monotheists who originated the idea of biological evolution had absolutely no problem reconciling the reality that everything was created by God with the concept of biological evolution. Why is this an issue today?
What a joke. The bible is the word of your god? Claiming that your god used evolution is declaring unequivocally that the word of god is a lie.
Because people on both sides of the debate are superstitious.
Got any evidence, not for your side that's a given.
my faith tells me is not edifying for me to waste my time thinking about
Your faith tells you to reject all modern medical practices. I doubt that you adhere to that level of nonsense.
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@Mopac
Zeus is a God ergo Zeus is the ultimate reality, your argument is asinine.
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@Greyparrot
It was a reply to your incorrect assumption and it's based on reality. The united NATIONS are the ones you claim would laugh at a country with a woman leader when it's actually the country with an idiot for a leader that they laugh at. Your argument is dead.
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@Mopac
Your country would be a joke to the nations
Jacinda Ardern received rapturous applause for her speech at the UN, pumpkin head received derisive laughter. Your boat just sank.
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@PGA2.0
Quote one passage from the OT that mentions a spiritual death.
God said on the day you eat the fruit you will die, it didn't happen ergo god lied.
Can a witch raise the dead?
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@Mopac
That's what you're saying. Your strawman is refuted.
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@PGA2.0
"Anyone can take a verse from a context, isolate it, and give the impression that is the entire argument. Why don't you read the rest of the context (i.e., Post # 114)?"
"I never said that. I said that those who are not regenerated (born again) have a nature that is hostile to God. They will not submit to who He is, to what He says. Instead, they rebel and live their own way. Thus, all the crime, greed, sin in the world.(post 91)"
All men are sinners, all godists are sinners therefore billions of godists committing multi billions of sins everyday defeats the fantasy you are projecting.
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@ethang5
Ooh how wonderful you now control your anger and hatred. Kudos.
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@PGA2.0
Are you suggesting Adam died physically on the day he ate the fruit?
Most certainly not, that is a claim made by christians in a vain attempt at absolving their god of lying.
The biblical text makes it very clear that God said on the day Adam ate the fruit he would die.
And as the story goes on to tell us, that was a lie.
Adam was separated from God spiritually and that mans spiritual condition is that he must be born spiritually to either enter the heavenly kingdom or see it
The bible doesn't say that you are making it up, but you have to fabricate lies so that you can convince yourself.
Define spiritually.
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@Mopac
Moses is a fictional character and is spoken to by a fictional god in a very old book of fiction. Do you perchance have any contact with reality and truth? If so please rely on those when you post.Or maybe you would prefer that we all started posting quotes from comic books.
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@ethang5
You're the only one so insecure as to mount such a campaign, you're thang after all.
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@Tradesecret
Start your own thread, you obviously have nothing to add to this thread.
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@spacetime
I leave magic and mind reading to godists, they tell outstanding stories. Not believable but outstanding.
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@Mopac
I accept reality and horrible things happen, I'm not the one so petrified of death that I need to believe in fantasies, that's what godists do. Your god is just one of the many that mankind has created, without man gods don't exist and that includes yours no matter what placeholders you give them.
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@PGA2.0
Where is it mentioned? It is a logical deduction. Adam did not die physically that day,
You read it here first folks Adam didn't die on that day and this bogus spiritual death wasn't mentioned it was fabricated.
Humanity did not know the difference between good and evil (Adam only knew good) until Adam disobeyed God
It's not possible to "disobey" if you don't know right from wrong ie good from evil. If you don't know that obey is right and disobey is wrong then whichever behaviour is neutral.
This spiritual death that you've concocted is a rather pathetic defense of the absurdity professed by the ignorant author of genesis. The fact that people like you can swallow that twaddle is mind boggling.
How many times is spiritual death mention in the OT?
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@PGA2.0
All religions are man made. Billions of godists committing multi billions of sins every day destroys your pathetic attempt at propaganda.
"Thus, all the crime, greed, sin in the world."
Your words, your tense.
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@Mopac
All men are liars, you therefore are lying.
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@Mopac
Why do you worship cliches?
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@ethang5
The pushers who claim his existence are certainly selling, gods need humans, without them gods don't exist. Is delusion really an attitude?
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@ethang5
Just another question of mine that's too hard for you? It's the reason you hate me.
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@spacetime
That's because I was right from the beginning, their dishonesty to themselves not withstanding.
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@sadolite
None the wiser.
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@ethang5
Is it obvious that suicide is wrong?
No. Why would you consider suicide wrong?
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@sadolite
Is there a way to determine which post is being responded to?
That's a two way street except one has 4 lanes and the other only has one.
Because I don't understand.
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@ethang5
God being obvious would not result in us all finding Him, or having one religion. It would just make the deniers more irrational in their denials
God being obvious would necessitate everybody on the planet knowing it, that claim is just so absolutely foolish.At least 90% of people are deniers of your god and you claim that your god is obvious it proves that your claim is without any doubt false. But keep digging your hole, it's fun.
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@Mopac
Now that is hilarious. You've got god typing your posts, are you serious? You consider yourself god? WOW, the hubris is outstanding.
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@ethang5
As usual, you couldn't address a single point in my post. You say America is a laughing stock. But why?
Reading comprehension can explain that, try it little thang.
You just state your lame opinion as if its fact, offer no support
Remind you of you? It should. hahahaha. I'll ignore the more and clownish I'm sure in your fantasy world you consider that meaningful somehow.
You hate Trump. You confuse that into thinking everyone hates Trump
The word you are looking for is pity, not hate. It's the same emotion I have for you.
how do you know what the world thinks of America?
By reading actual news and avoiding that soup of stupidity you watch faux not news. We're talking about the world little ghanian
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@ravensjt
Are you claiming that calling someone a creationist is an ad hom? Wow, some are very sensitive, ooh that might be an ad hom.
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@ethang5
Funny as......................keep up the vaudeville.
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