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@PGA2.0
And that is all you do, make unsupportable claims.
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@Greyparrot
If you are quoting fox not news please leave.
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@Paul
No! They are just frightened, willfully ignorant children.
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@PGA2.0
There is very little if any history in the bible. Just to reiterate the bible is the claim it is not evidence.
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@PGA2.0
For one thing, He is a necessary Being, and since He is necessary He has provided many infallible proofs both in His written revelation (the Bible) and through what He has created (the universe). From His word (the biblical revelation).we see God predicting the future before it happens. If it reasonable to believe these writings were BEFORE the events they predict in history? I believe that any reasonable and logical person would agree they are. Is it reasonable to believe Jesus Christ was a historical Person? I believe it is reasonable and logical to believe He is. Is it reasonable and logical to believe He rose from the dead? I believe it is reasonable and logical to believe it is so. Is it reasonable to believe the biblical texts are a unity in their teachings? I believe it is most reasonable. Is it reasonable to believe that there is a picture/shadow/type of Jesus on almost every page of the OT? I believe most reasonable, and I can document all these things. Is it reasonable and logical to believe other religious views contradict the biblical revelation and do not supply the level of proof the Bible does? I believe it is most reasonable and logical to believe.
Now apply this sentence to the above
You are not a necessary being. Since that is the truth why SHOULD I believe what you have to say? Why is what you say true?
And you have refuted your own argument if you were honest enough to admit it.
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@PGA2.0
Infanticide cannot be construed by a rational, logical being as punishing evil. You claim to be such a being but your beliefs put the lie to that. Why should I believe a word you say, you are neither rational nor logical nor honest?
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@PGA2.0
Infanticide and genocide are hallmarks of your god's morality according to your god
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@eash
The old testament, Hebrew propaganda, was written during the Babylonian captivity.
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@eash
The earliest proto hebrew written language is dated around 800BC.
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A sick argument is conflating Kaepernick and WBC, one is protesting for equal rights and the WBC is just hateful .
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First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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And so ends the land of the free.
And so returns the land of the rich white male.
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Damn pinkos who gave them freedom of speech, they should all be lemmings like mopac, bow to the overlords.
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@Greyparrot
You people abstain from involvement with reality with a passion.
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@PGA2.0
So a witch can't raise a person from the dead? You haven't actually read your bible have you?
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@PGA2.0
You don't get to rewrite the stories that are already written, that they are internally inconsistent is the problem you are being faced with and you discussing a completely different story imagined by you is just dishonest. Your story having perhaps more internal consistency is meaningless because your story doesn't exist in the bible, the internally inconsistent story does and you can't both defend it and be honest at the same time.
There is no mention of spiritual death anywhere in the A&E story or in fact in the entire OT.
Your god said that on that day Adam would die and on that day Adam didn't die. Of course he didn't even know what death was, he was threatened with a non existent punishment, it's no wonder he had no fear of the alleged consequence it was meaningless.
Adam didn't die on the day god threatened he would therefore god lied. It's quite simple if you read the story and not listen to someone changing the story to suit themselves.
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@Tradesecret
What lie is there?
That A&E knew right from wrong, that's the reason you have avoided supplying a passage that supports your claim.
Surely anyone with half a brain would realise that the threat of death is not going to happen to someone for no reason
Most especially when death didn't exist. How frightened are you of being cripsterneened? It's as meaningless a word as death was before death existed.
She knew it was wrong to disobey God. As did Adam.
That's not possible, they were never taught right from wrong, obedience from disobedience. Obedience meant as much as death did and that was NOTHING.
It is a more plausible explanation than thinking - gee she did not know it was wrong and had to eat the fruit from the forbidden tree to figure it out. Which is what your want to imply. But that is not possible - is highly implausible and not probable.
The entire story has no plausibility, you don't get to change what is written to pacify your concerns for it's implausibility. The story says that A&E new right from wrong after eating the fruit. Try reading the story not writing it.
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@Mopac
I do not need to prove that my beliefs reflect reality in anyway.
You can't, is actually TRUE, because they don't.
That is not Christianity. Christianity teaches that everyone is wrong and only God is right.My belief is that God isnright, and thisnis obviously true. My God is The Truth.
You are wrong and I've quoted the expert to prove it.
If a truth dies does The Truth die?
There is no difference between the truth and The Truth, I know that you worship capital letters but as we have seen above you are wrong.
Which god would you be believing in if the Canaanites didn't invent him, the Jews didn't adopt him and the Christians didn't adapt him?
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@ethang5
Don't know much do you? How is the worlds richest miner on a pick and shovel, he would never have seen one I'd wager. Just a dolt.
What would you know about work?
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@Mopac
God is The Ultimate Reality.
Is your claim and you support that claim with a dictionary and nothing else. Your claim is dismissed.
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@Mopac
You can call your god a three eyed blue 7ft snail, it's still just your claim about your imaginary god.
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@Tradesecret
Are you saying that Adam and Eve did not know it was wrong to eat the forbidden fruit?
Precisely they didn't know right from wrong, so they couldn't possibly know it was wrong.
Show me the verses that proclaim that A&E new right from wrong was what you were asked for, not what you think some irrelevant verses meant.
Eating the fruit is what made them aware of right and wrong, produce a verse that refutes that and supports your lie.
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@ethang5
The worlds resources belong to the world's people, not the parasites who take it all.. Here's a prophesy for you there will be a worldwide revolt and the rich will be slaughtered. You'd better take note because their sycophant supporters will not be spared. Spread the word. bwuahahahahaha
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@ethang5
It's my questions that make you run away in fear, always has been.
Carry on you have plenty more laughs to give us.
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@Greyparrot
They didn't have open borders, your ancestors illegally crossed their borders. Get rid of all illegals you say? Can you find a country that will take you given your track record?
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Do you mean to tell me that the grandstand in that bedroom was completely empty, as if.
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@Tradesecret
We need to consider some of the context here. the first thing is this: Adam and Eve already knew good from evil. Eating this tree was not going to give them knowledge to knowing good and evil. They knew it was good not to eat from the tree and they knew it was evil to eat of the tree.
Produce the verses that support this tripe.
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@Mopac
Ch & Vs please.
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@Mopac
Your argument is that an English language convention defines your god, that convention did not exist before language, I mean really.
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@PGA2.0
Do you seriously think those verses are from the OT? There is no mention of a spiritual in the OT. There is nomention of a spiritual death in the Adam story, why are your arguments so full of lies?
Adam didn't die on the day.
Therefore your God lied.
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@Greyparrot
Is that what you learned from the native americans? When do you intend giving their country back to them.
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@PGA2.0
Can a witch raise the dead? Where do you see mention of everlasting life? Was Lazarus raised to everlasting life? Now answer the question HONESTLY.
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@Mopac
Definition of ultimate reality: something that is the supreme, final, and fundamental power in all reality ultimate reality in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam is God
So for the vast majority of the population it has no meaning at all. BTW can you confirm your claim? No? It's just a claim.
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@Mopac
Merriam Webster the holiest of all holy books. Praise be to Webster.
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@Mopac
That means even you only act according to God's will.
That means Adam acted according to god's will. God screwed up and blamed Adam and punished humanity when he srewed up again.
What a good god [sarcasm]
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@ethang5
Th 1% could house clothe and feed all the homeless in america without even noticing a change in their bank balance, why don't they want to put america first, why do they spit on the less fortunate and why do the pseudo christians applaud their and your hypocrisy?
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@Greyparrot
Ask the natives about your illegal immigration, funny as.
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@Greyparrot
How many?
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From the looks of it poor old Kav isn't fit to sit on a kangaroo court.
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@Mopac
But I'm not you are.
Born in Pakistan were you? Then who is your God?
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@Mopac
Without humans your god can't exist, humans created it.
If you were born in Pakistan your god doesn't exist.
Every God is reliant on the existence of humans.
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@Mopac
You may run away now. You are finshed.
Godists have superstitions, I don't. But your failures are eternal.bwuahahahahaha
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@Mopac
You're kidding yourself.
God
Origin
Old English, of Germanic origin; related to Dutch god and German Gott .
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