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This is the sign-up sheet for Bad A$$ Mother F**cker (BAMF) Mafia.
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Game will start when Mharman's finishes.
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Current Mafia
Mharman - Satire Mafia
Signups
drafterman (BAMF)
In the Hopper
Crocodile - Jojo Mafia
Speedrace - Arrowverse
Bullish
RM- Pirates of the carribean
Lunatic
SupaDudz - Danny Phantom, Avatar The Last Airbender, My Hero Academia
Bear- Bad Mod
ILikePie5 - The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time
Mharman - Vote: Terraria or Transformers G1
On Hold
zaradi, Virtuoso, danielle, PressF4Respect
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@Vader
That's a smart move to eliminate distractions before a test, but I wouldn't blame water.
It was just bad luck.
I'm not going to claim some miraculous insight into choosing Water.
It was a combination of POE and just dumb blind luck. I certainly didn't even suspect he was gunsmith, so that was a blow.
That oro and ham join int when, by all reasonable accounts they could have just dismissed me, was a boon.
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I think when I pushed the wagon on Water DP1 he overreacted a bit, a bit desperate not to lose the only chance for a mafia kill. His posting is a bit all over the place and erratic trying to portray me as outright scum rather than just a townie that's wrong.
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I'm not convinced Oro would have hammered water as scum when he could have just waited 2 minutes
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That means it's Oro, Supa, or Hamburger. Out of those three I lea. Supa
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Yes, I said all of that last DP when I was critiquing Ragnar's theory. It initially came off, to me, as a naive Town strategy he just didn't think through.
I honestly want to lynch him the most this DP. I want others to weigh in first.
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Part of me is wondering about Ragnar.
If Maf had the gun, then giving away the mechanic is no big deal. Especially if they can use the gun to kill the mechanic.
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Like, we cobbled together a wagon on the only mafia killer in 10 minutes.
All maf had to do was nothing.
And everyone would have been actually pretty ok to say that there wasn't enough to go on.
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I know I gave my list last phase but I'm starting to rethink it.
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@Vader
No one lied. You just don't understand how the game works.
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@Vader
In the interest of avoiding Mafia doing power consolidation in the shadows, I am the mechanic.Unless given a reason not to, tonight I'll be passing my ability on at random to Speedrace.
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I'm the most town.
Oro is next.
I think Supa and Ragnar are also town.
That leaves Speed and Duh.
VTL Speed
Like we don't even have to logic this, guys.
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I'm going to give a chance to surrender with honor.
Face it, you need 4 mislynches to win.
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@Vader
You literally started a wagon on Speed.
Are you on speed?
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@Vader
Because it is inherently scummy to wanna lynch someone to lynch someone
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LOL @ Supa starting a new wagon with 4 minutes to spare.
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@Vader
It was Virt's game and you crawled all up my ass like a hamster to Richard Gere about me RVSing Water, getting yourself lynched.
And I was Town.
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@Vader
Yes drafter, let me just openly out you and say "You are President" so that Speed can NK you and town loses
So you're suggesting that if you followed me DP1 and lynched Speed, he would have NK'd me?
After he died and the game was over?
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@Vader
He did this exact thing as scum in Virt's game pushing for random lynches in DP1. He's scum
I was Town that game numb nuts.
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The only people that should be getting heat this phase are the one that want to waste the day NLing.
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@Vader
If you had listened to me DP1 there wouldn't have been a DP2 for Speed to out play you.
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What exactly are you looking for? It's DP1. You want some 5 page treatise citing 5 day phases worth of results with voting and behavioral analysis?
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@Speedrace
Point is, my read was accurate and I was mod confirmed Town. And that wasn't enough to convince Supa. There is little more that can be done save the mod coming out and scum confirming you.
Even them I'm not confident he would have gone for it.
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@Vader
@oromagi
@Mikal
@Hamburgler
Or drafter is scum, and has the gun and is trying to push a mislynch so he gets a confirmed nk by juggling the scum with his scum buddy.
0 for 3.
People are sheeping drafter hard , there is no reason not to vtnl. Even if they have the gun it doesn't matter. It gives us a dp without mylo to analyze a np
It's 5-2. If we NL and they shoot, that's 4-2 making it MYLO which means we NL again putting us at 3-2 LYLO.
I'd rather lynch scum now. Why do you not want to lynch scum?
To walk through this if we mislynch we are at mylo tomorrow. (if we don't hit the gun Smith) . That means it's basically lylo assuming mafia has the gun because we either have to lynch properly tomorrow or they will pass the gun back to each other and the nk will end the game.
If we NL we are at MYLO tomorrow. If we mislynch we are at LYLO tomorrow. NL basically throws away the single mislynch we have. Why do you want to rob town of its only reliable power?
@oromagi
You sound confident.
In the past 2 or 3 quickfires I've been right. Town just couldn't muster the sense to go with what works.
Why water?
The weakest of the elements.
Waiting on u
Actually I'm waiting on you guys to hammer water. What's the hold up?
@SupaDudz
How is drafter wildly claiming that Water is scum when has only posted like 4-5 times. This is silly. I am not hammering this until he explains why he is doing this.
I'm not inclined to explain myself to you. I called out scum in the President game where the Mod gave you a a direct message literally telling you I was Town and that wasn't enough to convince you to go with me. If you won't follow mod confirmed Town then you just do your own thing, man.
Again, this is not true. In Protect the President, he made the wrong judgement that cost town the game. I bet you the same thing is happening here
Incorrect. I correctly called out Speed DP1.
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@Barney
That's just the normal mechanic of lynching with extra steps.
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@Barney
I disagree. If we're unlucky (28.6% chance) they have the gunsmith already, which is the only way they can kill the mechanic. If they do kill the mechanic, then they'll pass it back and forth, making lynching our only means of victory as seen with normal games. Knowing this is the case, would be valuable.
You're missing the part where they have to know who the mechanic is to kill them, meaning the mechanic shouldn't out.
Assuming mafia lacks the gunsmith (71.4% chance), a town person shooting randomly has a better chance of hitting scum than a random lynch (33.3%). However, if they shoot a vest (one that is not sabotaged), nothing happens. If they don't know where the mechanic is, they might destroy that ability by accident instead of a scum revealing choice.
It's not important who has it now, it's important who is going to have it tonight.
Case 1 is mafia already has it (28.6%) meaning they will definitely give it to the other mafia tonight (100%) for an overall 28.6% chance they get it tonight.
Case 2 is the town has it (71.4%) in which case there is a 33% chance they give it to a mafia for an overall 23.8% chance they get it tonight.
The sum chances of Mafia getting the gun is greater than 50%.
You are advocating for the mechanic to get killed, essentially.
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@oromagi
If the vest-maker makes Ragnar a vest NP1 he is bulletproof. If the gun-maker makes Ragnar a gun NP1, we have no need of a mechanic and we can instruct Ragnar exactly who he must kill. If anybody other than specified is killed, Ragnar gets killed. At the end of Ragnar's NP, he gives gun, vest, and mechanic to a pre-agreed upon player who follows the same process.UNVOTE for time to discuss
This strategy doesn't work in LYLO since Maf will just kill a Townie and that ends the game. Can't revenge lynch them if the game is over.
The only person I advocate outing is the gunsmith, so we can lynch them and prevent mafia from ever having an NK.
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Sorry, but telling the mafia who exactly is the mechanic is (so they can kill him) and who has a vest (so they can avoid killing them) is completely dumb.
The only role that should have outed is the gun smith.
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@Barney
I'm more interested in how this prevents Mafia consolidation of powers.
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