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@Manik
You have not been blocked from having any kind of approved discussion in any way. In fact, we're having one right now.
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@Manik
That's simply untrue.
Which part, specifically is untrue:
    • An interesting discussion can still develop. Just not in that thread;
    • Whether or not an interesting discussion develops is entirely at your discretion;
    • No action taken by a moderator has inhibited your ability to [have an interesting discussion] in any way;
    The thread was shut down because of the way the discussion was framed.
    I would say that the thread was shut down because how the discussion prompt was framed.

    That means discussions of that type are forbidden here.
    Incorrect. It means that solicitations that are likely to result in violations of the CoC will be locked down. It doesn't not mean you cannot have discussions that do not involve violations of the CoC.

    Yes, of course, I could have a different kind of approved discussion, I suppose. 
    You don't need to suppose. You are always allowed to have any kind of discussion that doesn't violation the CoC.

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    @Manik
    An interesting discussion can still develop. Just not in that thread. Whether or not an interesting discussion develops is entirely at your discretion and no action taken by a moderator has inhibited your ability to do so in any way.
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    @Manik
    Because it doesn't impact you in any negative way or restrict your rights or privileges here in any way.
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    @Manik
    I've been prevented from adding more insights to the dark awards thread.  Or indeed continuing discussions on any thread that has been blocked.

    Those aren't punishments.
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    @Manik
    How have you been punished?
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    You know what, nevermind. I'm done for the night. Even if you're town you've pulled this dumb deceptive shit before. I'll save my energy for tomorrow.
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    @Lunatic
    Did you, or did you not say I was trying to portray you as the ONLY one wrong?
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    @Lunatic
    I've logically destroyed you at every turn and will continue to do so until time expires if I have to.
    Okay, RM.


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    that I haven't*
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    Can you substantiate these lies, or you just gonna keep posting one liners, dis-appearing for a bit, post another unsubstantiated one liner, dis-apppear, rinse and repeat?
    When it has been quick to do so I have:


    Implying that I have it is...

    wait for it

    wait for it

    You guessed it...

    A LIE!
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    @Lunatic
    How about instead of lying and inserting deceptive qualifiers to corrupt truthful statements into misrepresentations, why not just actually stick to the truth?

    I will make you a deal: stop lying, and I'll stop pointing them out!
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    @Lunatic
    Lunatic, can you explain how any explanation that paints you as Town accounts for all your lying?
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    @Lunatic
    I haven't been playing in absolutes. you have and are.

    Another lie.
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    @Lunatic
    Quote me, verbatim, where I said he was "confirmed."
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    @Lunatic
    Drafterman is scum, ergo lynch airmax!

    Makes sense to me!
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    @Lunatic
    Quote me, verbatim, where I said he was "confirmed."
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    @Lunatic
    No, I'm not saying that.
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    @Lunatic
    There can only be one god father. And they didn't see fit to either kill Press OR roleblock him NP1, when there were two mafia.

    The reason is clear: Supa wasn't lying when he suggested press was PGO, he actually believed it which colored their actions. They figured he was PGO, or was bomb, or would be watched or protected.
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    @Lunatic
    Press has an inno on him.
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    @Greyparrot
    He's given literally all his reports on people. What else could he possibly tell us?

    Again, this idea that he is lying about being cop and is a PGO was something concocted by SupDudz, who was scum.
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    @Greyparrot
    airmax. inno
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    Wow. Lunatic has not only derailed the lynch on himself, but is now convincing people to mislynch another town.
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    I am going to try and do a megapost tomorrow if this do is still going. Before I do that, I want to submit for consideration, not the things Lunatic has said, but HOW he has said them.

    I say, "You're wrong."

    He replies, "Why do you say ONLY I am wrong."

    He takes a real thing, then adds a false qualifier to make me look like I'm being unreasonable and extreme.

    There is no reason to do this EXCEPT to present a false misrepresentation to the town. Either I say nothing and someone gets a false perception, or I have to spent time refuting them, further clogging up the DP.


    It's insidious and deceitful and NOT explained by him being town and simply viewing me as scum.


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    @Lunatic
    as the only one being wrong, is mis-leading.

    Another lie.
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    Dude, it was a joke. Even speed recognized that
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    @oromagi
    Oh geeze, not this again.

    Mafia who aren't killed dont leave the PM

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    @Lunatic
    Pay attention. There is only one mafia left, so if it's me it isn't AROSE meaning you were wrong and your cases are bad. If they shouldn't have listened to your weak case  DP1, why should they listen to it now?
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    @Lunatic
    There is literally only one mafia left.
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    @Speedrace
    Well, if DP1 is any indication, my weak cases are better than Lunatics.
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    @oromagi
    What you describe is basically what happened in your typical game on debate.org, where me and Lunatic come from.
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    @oromagi
    Lol, this as part for the course on DDO. This is a blast from the past.
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    @Speedrace
    1. The implication of Lunatics statement is that I ONLY vote after Supas slip. That is false. I voted for him before the slip, TO LYNCH, with a clear FOS. The only reason I even unvoted was, ultimately because of a mod mistake. You have to take that into account.
    2. That was mostly tongue in cheek directed at Lunatic because, as you noted, there is no point in me trying to convince Lunatic of my case.
    3. Ill review that later.
    4. Accuse him of what?
    5. He dropped his fos of AROSE before today. I questioned him about it last DP.






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    @PressF4Respect
    Tomorrow at 8pm
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    @Speedrace
    What have I misrepresented?
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    @Lunatic
    And?
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    @Speedrace
    This is a lie. Look at dp2 yourself, I voted BEFORE Supa slipped. Don't believe his lies.
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    @Lunatic
    That and all your lies. But he can just look through your post history to see that stuff.
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    @Speedrace
    Sure:


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    @Speedrace
    Dude, I'm not trying to convince Lunatic that he's scum. I'm point out all of his lies for YOUR benefit.
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    @Lunatic
    I feel all of this diffusion of pressure is scummy, tbh
    Doesnt mean
    anyone pushing a different lynch is scummy


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    @Speedrace
    It wouldn't be unbalanced.
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    @Lunatic
    by saying anyone pushing a different lynch is scummy
    Never said this. More lies.
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    UVC
    Lunatic: 3/5 (drafter, wylted, GreyParrot)
    Drafter: 2/5 (Lunatic, arose)
    Wylted: 1/5 (speed)
    AROSE - 1/5 - oromagi

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    @Lunatic
    Then why you keep bringing up the fact that I didn't stay on AROSE? You are clearly using the fact that I didn't tunnel AROSE against me. 
    No, I'm using the fact that absolutely nothing has changed in AROSE behavior yet your FOS is magically gone. Reads can change, for reasons. But there is no reason for you to have changed you read, yet it is magically gone. This implies it was ingenuine to begin with.

    Because you're scum.

    But, please, lie more.


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    @Lunatic
    If you are town, you should be lynching because you want to win and catch scum,
    Yes, and I did that. Hence town cred.

    You're saying that me lynching and catching scum isn't town cred, it's OBVIS MAF MUSSING

    You never indicated where you were sure of it. You doubled down when the possibility of that lynch not happening occurred. 
    I did. Lots of times. I even linked to the post for your easy reference. More lies. x3

    I meant scum.
    You mean you slipped?

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    @Lunatic
    And I never said anything about you tunneling or not tunneling.

    More lies.
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    @Lunatic
    I never mentioned a 5Ds game.

    More lies.
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    @Lunatic
    And you set that lynch up for town cred in both DP1 and 2,
    Yes, and?

    town cred for a lynch you weren't all that sure of.
    You keep leaving out the part where I was sure of it. Why do you leave out those parts?

    As if you knew SA would be town 100%
    He wasn't town. He was scum.

    and were ready to use that against anyone who didn't vote for him. Only way you would have known he was town like that is if you were scum and bussing.
    ????

    So Sir is secretly Town, and I knew that and, as scum, bussed town?

    ?!?!?!
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    And again, AROSE is magically not scum anymore.

    So, Lunatic wants people to believe that he is so on the nose here, without admitting that he was completely and utterly wrong in DP1.
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