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@Dr.Franklin
We know Doc.
You can wrap poo in ribbons, but it'll still stink.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Sometimes I wonder if some atheists ever think. If an alien were to listen to an atheist, he would be dumbfounded when he found out the actual performance of the book they so denegrate!
It's like listening to some idiot claim that a flavor of ice cream is terrible, yucky, hated by reasonable people, and bitter, and then find out that the flavor is vanilla and is the most popular flavor by far!
When you ask the typical idiot, if vanilla flavor is so bad, how come its the most popular? The idiot screams that you have committed the ad popullum fallacy. And so never address the sheer stupidity of their claim.
If the bible was actually
ROBERT 17 : 24. did e just like flick a ciggy but at me cat
And
Elizabeth 22 : 22. A rolling stone is worth two in the bush.
As our genius suggests, could it have become the most quoted, most studied, most cherished, most influential, most copied, most history changing work of literature on Earth?
Because he is basically uneducated, he misses all the wisdom, all the complex concepts, all the literary excellence of the bible, and in his ignorance, believes everyone is as ignorant as he.
But challenge them on the contradiction between their description of the bible and the bible's actual performance in real life, and they either double down on the disconnect, insisting the bible has no value, or come up with completely ridiculous rationalizations to explain away the bible's accomplishments.
But in the end, the only thing that will help such people is school, and for some, it's already too late.
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@ATroubledMan
Are you one of the non-believers in God who is righteous?We also find non-believers in God who are righteous....
Because I suspect you are equivocating on the bible's meaning of "righteous"
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@SkepticalOne
Per the Christian model, one can be as sinful as they like so long as they accept Jesus.
No. The Christian model is one can be as sinful as they like BEFORE they accept Jesus.
He died so that their sins - no matter how heinous or frequent - could be forgiven.
That is the wonder of Jesus, there is always forgiveness and redemption as long as there is life in you.
Not believing in god for a "lack of righteousness' is nonsensical.
Actually, it isn't. Since you didn't say why you think it's nonsensical, I will only leave this verse with you.
2Th 2:10 - ......[snip]...... because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
The bible is talking about an attitude, a way of looking at the world. If you read the chapter, it flesh's it out.
Secondly, the Bible says non-believers are "corrupt; their deeds are vile; / there is no one who does good." Where is the demonstration of this?
Demonstration of what? What the bible says, or the depravity of human nature?
Do I really need to point out the "sins" of religious people and the righteousness of atheists?
No. The bible already did that.
The fact of the matter is that people, religious or not, commit crimes and do the right things too.
True. That is exactly what the bible says.
You're so quick to believe everything the bible say is an attack, that you have your gloves on even before the message and the intent has had time to sink in.
That chip on your shoulder is heavy isn't it?
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@ATroubledMan
Athias is as Athias does.
And esotericism has been around for centuries and proven nothing.
Athias seems "esoteric" to you only because you're basically uneducated in comparison.
I have accepted your non-intelligent answers as non-intelligent.
OK. I told you you'd learn.
If you would like me to change that,
I could not care less.
then explain your assertions.
No amount of your begging will make me join you in stupidity.
Making an assertion and then expecting the other party to accept it is not how it works.
Is not how what works, atheist with article? It's worked fine with you.
Then, your answers will remain non-intelligent assertions.
My answers will be and remain what they are regardless of how clueless you are.
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Both Psalm 14:1 and Psalm 53:1 read, “The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God.’”
Some take these verses to mean that atheists are stupid, i.e., lacking intelligence. However, that is not the only meaning of the Hebrew word translated “fool.” In this text, the Hebrew word is nabal, which often refers to an impious person who has no perception of ethical or religious truth.
The meaning of the text is not “unintelligent people do not believe in God.” Rather, the meaning of the text is “sinful people do not believe in God.” In other words, it is a wicked thing to deny God, and a denial of God is often accompanied by a wicked lifestyle.
The verse goes on to list some other characteristics of the irreligious: “They are corrupt; their deeds are vile; / there is no one who does good.” Psalm 14 is a study on the universal depravity of mankind.
Many atheists are very intelligent. It is not intelligence, or a lack thereof, that leads a person to reject belief in God. It is a lack of righteousness that leads a person to reject belief in God.
Many people do not object to the idea of a Creator, as long as that Creator minds His own business and leaves them alone. What people reject is the idea of a Creator who demands morality from His creation. Rather than struggle against a guilty conscience, some people reject the idea of God altogether. Psalm 14:1 calls this type of person a “fool.”
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@ILikePie5
Liberals believe that resources are limited because you selfishly want to spend YOUR money on YOUR family instead of on little Fatima from the Congo.
Their solution?
The answer is really simple, put taxes at a reasonable level and then do both.
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Liberals, of course, will never acknowledge that by increasing taxes on YOU, it is YOU they are forcing to do both!
From HB's solution above, here is what we know...
1. A reasonable level of taxes is when you have nothing left.
2. Any "good" left undone while the taxpayer has income remaining is an immoral situation.
3. Liberals think taxable income is an unlimited resource.
It is constrictive to have to follow the boards rules when talking to people with such blindingly stupid and unfair ideas.
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@blamonkey
Your POV makes sense and is mostly logically consistent.
The problem is, we often try to use moral truths as moral principles. An objective moral truth would be a principle, not a law.
All laws are based on principles. Laws themselves are situational and applied subjectively. But principles never are.
I can see plenty of gray area in anchoring oneself to an appropriate idea and in debating the morality of the latter issue.
If one tries to use an idea as a moral principle sure. That doesn't work well.
First, we need a moral principle, not a law or idea, or human desire. Then, we need to know the 3 things about an act/actor that determine whether an act/actor is moral or not moral or amoral in a given circumstance.
Morality is determined by...
1. Intent of the actor for the action in question.
2. The relationship between the actor and the one(s) affected by the action. And
3. The moral authority carried by the actor at the time of his action in relation to those affected by the action.
With these, every action's moral value can be determined.
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@Melcharaz
Lets not insult others if you can help it.
Sorry, it's not insults and it's my job.
If people say foolish things to irritate ya,...
I'm never irritated online.
...just ignore them.
Bullies, trolls, and militants do not get ignored. I would be shirking my duty.
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@ATroubledMan
You are always free to accept anything as anything you like, but accept my answers you will.No problem, I accept it as a non-intelligent response.
You refused to explain why I was stupid.
Because you were deliberately stupid. No explanations are given when a dweeb is deliberately stupid.
That would then be a personal insult.
Then that would be you insulting yourself.
The response continues to lack intelligence no matter how many times it's read.
Then it's your poor reading comprehension. That is not my responsibility.
Your response was a fallacy.
Stupidity does not become true upon repetition.
Most people require evidence to believe.
Believing in something is not hard evidence.
Most people still require evidence to believe homer.
Logical fallacies are not valid arguments.
Neither is stupidity.
Exactly, that was your argument
No, that was your poor reading comprehension.
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If you knew before hand that creating sentient AI would immediately obligate you morally, would you still create them?
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@ATroubledMan
Repeating a non-intelligent response is still a non-intelligent response.
Whatever you call my response, it was given and you will have t accept it.
Explanations are often standard when one disagrees.
You didn't disagree, you were stupid.
You tagged me homer.If you're unable to respond intelligently, perhaps you should move on.
You're offering non-intelligent responses that don't explain any stupidity on my part.
Read my reply even more slowly.
Is this your entire argument?
Argument for what?
What is your name homer?
It's not homer.
I didn't ask what your name was not, homer.
I'm still waiting for an intelligent response.
Me too!
If you have none to offer, then why are you here?
To toss a dweeb.
Your claim was indeed a fallacy.
Truth cannot be a fallacy.
I did not mention is was true either, I also said believe.
Lie.
Since there is no hard evidence, then it is evident that ideas with no evidence do convince people.
People like you maybe. Most people require evidence.
That same can be said for a wide variety of ideas that convince people.
Yes, people like you with poor critical thinking skills and low education.
Yes, evidence convinces people,...
Of course. And millions have been convinced over centuries. The fact that you can't see it means nothing.
You can explain it if you want.
You keep forgetting that I do not endulge stupidity.
I certainly understand it.
Sure you do.
That would the same fallacy you're invoking.
Ad popullum is only when the truth of the argument is based on popularity homer. I said nothing about its truth
Sorry, but that's a Strawman fallacy.
Lol! Why am I not surprised that you don't know what a strawman is either? The two cancel each other out. Hee, hee!
Do smart people call other people names,
Sure. That is what names are for.
do they say they are stupid without offering any explanation,
Smart people do not say they are stupid, so explanations are never needed.
do they invoke fallacies as arguments?
No, but they know what fallacies are.
Is that what you refer to as smart?
I referred to nothing as smart, I referred to you as not smart.
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@ATroubledMan
...perhaps the friend you referred to earlier?
I referred to no friend earlier.
I see you might have me confused for someone else,...
I know who yo are. You aren't bright enough to write differently enough to hide who you are.
I was under the impression that's how things worked on an open forum, a person opines on a subject while another explains why they disagree. You haven't accomplished that as yet. Can we expect some sort of explanation?
You either don't listen well or don't read well. I will repost my answer. Read it more slowly this time.
You know its stupid. It doesn't need to be explained to you. You are compulsively seeking attention, I will give it to you, but not the type you crave.
In fact, you haven't offered up any explanations so far.
You will learn that Ethan doesn't entertain stupidity. Take your time. You will learn.
First of all, my name is not homer.
What is your name homer?
Calling me that is not intelligent response.
"....is not an intelligent response" seems to be your new drone. But only intelligent comments deserve intelligent responses.
Yes, you did invoke numbers when you said: "I still believe in God. Millions of others still do too."
Invoking numbers is not necessarily ad popullum Abdul. You are basically illiterate so you think any mention of numbers is a fallacy.
That's a common fallacy; Argumentum ad Populum, concludes that a proposition must be true because many or most people believe it.
Only I did not say it was true. I said many did believe. You jumped to thinking I was referring to its truth because you're a poor thinker. I referred to the many who believe because you said there was absolutely no evidence for God. Ideas with no evidence do not convince millions of people from all walks of life, over centuries.
Yes, that is the fallacy you invoked; Argumentum ad Populum. Unfortunately, fallacies aren't intelligent responses.
You assumed it because you aren't intelligent. I did not say Christianity was true because many believed it. I said nothing about its truth. You said it had no evidence, but the behavior of millions of people for hundreds of years has contradicted you. Evidence convinces people. You are wrong.
Once again, invoking the fallacy; Argumentum ad Populum is not an intelligent response.
Lol. You don't even know what the fallacy is.
People believe in all kinds of things that have no hard evidence, that doesn't make any of it true.
I didn't say any of it was true. That is just your sloppy thinking. I said many people found it had enough evidence to convince them. Millions.
If a person believes something and another person doesn't believe it and neither are able to prove themselves, then their opinions cancel each other out, it becomes a null argument.
Sorry, that is stupidity. Or else stupid people would have been able to cancel all progress made by great men and women over the ages.
We do have some obtuse idiots on the site who think that insisting they are not convinced means they secure a draw. It doesn't work that way, smart people do not need your agreement to eviscerate your argument.
That's unfortunate.
Eh. I find it fortunate.
Would you call him a friend...
I am fond of trolls.
...or do you call him homer as well?
When he's stupid, yes. Which is often.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Lucky for us, you're only obsessive, not compulsive. But you should know the disease degrades. Willows was not always so deluded and compulsive.
Hopefully you're gotten a hold of yourself on the singing group fixation. That obsession was loony weird.
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@Imabench
OK. Makes sense.
What are your principle gripes with Trump? Is it morality personality? Because it certainly cannot be policy/economics.
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@Willows
@T_Recks
To give their story credibility of course.
Lol! The story conquered the world loser, credibility is one thing it didn't lack.
But let's not beat about the bush. There is absolutely nothing in the Bible that validates any of their bizarre stories and would give any sane person any reason to believe them.
And yet it became, and remains the dominant religion on Earth for hundreds of years! History and reality call you a deluded fool.
There is absolutely no authentication whatsoever of any of the processes as described in the Bible.
And yet you're the minority fringe position, creating sock puppets to spam stupidity over and over.
The one with the credibility problem is you loser. You are a troll that projects his loser status on the bible.
Nothing you can say overcomes your insane behavior.
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@Willows
@T_Recks
In what fevered delusion of yours? Theists are still in the overwhelming majority.Nowadays of course most people tend to look away when confronted by such loonies.
You are breaking into a religion board compulsively. How come you aren't "looking away"? Hmmm, loony?
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@Barney
See?
The dolt has rationalized his making sock puppets and spamming a "witch hunt".
A troll hunt is more like it.
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@Imabench
So what is keeping him in?
My guess is incredible selfishness on Bernie's part based on 3 pieces of evidence:
OK, wow! I didn't expect that.
I was sure you were a Sanders supporter. You sound instead like a Bernie hater.
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@T_Recks
Perhaps you may wish to keep within the rules of the site and refrain from continuous personal attacks and address the argument that was put forward.
When you refrain from sock puppetry and become an actual legal member, I'll keep within the rules of the site.
I know what you mean there.I think that there will also be pink elephants with wings.
And trolls with compulsions.
You aren't even a member moron. You're an idiot troll telling someone else to keep within the rules of the site as you stupidly post from your 15th sock puppet.
You are a moron troll, and you will get treated like one.
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@T_Recks
You are a Christian. I'm not.
Yes. You are suffering from OCD. That's why an atheist who claims to find nothing good in Christianity would park himself on a religion board.
Would you say that sums it up, given the biased nature of the moderator who banned me?
Every mod cannot be biased moron. And don't you think by stupidly trolling the site now validates the mods judgement of you?
You are a troll. The way you are behaving now is not new, it was always in you.
I said of you 3 years ago, "you do not want debate or dialogue, like an idiot who spray paints insults on a church wall, all you want is to shock and insult. And we have seen, that is all you do."
You rationalize your insane behavior, but in your heart of hearts, you know you're not OK. I've always known you were OCD.
To soothe yourself, you are probably telling yourself that you are bothering the mods and Christians. But as always, no one really thinks of you. Like hari, dee dee, and disgusted before you, you are insignificant. Empty.
Everyone has seen your rant before. You simply repeat it under a slightly different title. No one cares. You are like the crazy man on the street corner yelling his obsession. Everyone walks past you and avoids eye contact.
You could be well if you got treatment, but for some reason, mentally sick people like you never want treatment. You know you're sick. Your own behavior shouts it.
Now, like the moron hari, you waste your life posting the same stupidity over and over to a site that doesn't want you. Stupidly calling yourself a "crusader". Hari called himself a "researcher", dee dee was a "Christian" minister bringing the "truth".
Each of you are deluded and rationalizing to keep your delusion intact and the cognitive dissonance at bay.
How long will you keep spamming and sock puppeting? For years? Could you really be that insane? Is your life that frivolous? Are you really that petty?
This will end sadly for you. And everyone will see that you were just a mentally ill troll with an empty life. But you are compulsive. You cannot stop.
So I'll toss you for lolz. The fact that you're too dense and compulsive to stop shaming yourself is not my business.
You are a gift, and I'm going to unwrap you.
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@Greyparrot
Having HB on the politics board is like having a CNN feed here. He buys their fake news hook, line, and sinker.
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@Greyparrot
Reality has a pesky way of contradicting liberal PC nonsense. But they never learn.
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@Willows
@T_Recks
...definitely something more serious going on there.
Like mental illness in the form of compulsion?
Definitely yes.
Then get help. You need medication. Your behavior of making sock puppets over and over to circumvent your ban is not sane or rational or civil. You are sick.
I'm not someone who jumps to erroneous conclusions however (unlike one of the moderators here)
Your unhinged behavior has proven the mods correct. You are a troll. You are obsessed. You do suffer from compulsion.
This is not a morality issue. You aren't evil, you're just ill. I know you see this.
Tell you what. If you get treatment, I myself will petition Ragnar in your favor. Do it for yourself, you are losing grip of your sanity. Even the moron hari didn't do what you're doing.
Please get help.
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Can the class say clueless?...you can see a pattern of behavior
I thought it could. Lol!
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@zedvictor4
The atheist has no seeds of doubt in this particular respect, as there is nothing to doubt.
And yet here you all are, droning on and on that God doesn't exist. Your behavior shows you doubt something.
I would suggest that the internal dilemmas of some theists, often manifests as bitterness and antagonism.
But the theist didn't have to seek you out at your atheist website. The theist is not the one making sock puppets to troll the site. The theist is not the one stalking anyone to keep repeating the belief he claims he has no doubt about.
Does reality register to you guys?
You are currently talking to an atheist troll who cannot leave the board he claims is full of evil vicious people. But your morality allows you to take help from anyone, as long as it helps you make your drone seem supported.
I used to think you were just a misguided atheist, and then I saw you are just like willows, obsessed with taking potshots at God and Christians, not willing to debate, but only wanting to keep repeating the same "God does not exist" forever, and prone to becoming obsessed with me.
I'm glad you two found each other, I can now display my double-tossing skills. Two trolls for the price of one, but double the lolz.
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@Willows
It's me actually and since this is the only way for me to post my name will vary each time my account as cancelled.
The loser will of course gloss over why it's constantly cancelled.
Ethong is a very old arch-rival of mine and in fact an arch-rival of just about everybody.
Yet my name stays constant.
He uses intimidating and insulting language as his only form of argument against the reality that normal, sane people like you and I confront him with.
Lol. Normal and sane people continuously make sock puppets after they have been banned from a site?
Oh, and he has an unprecedented reputation for posting tonnes of the most vile racist bigotry ever written on another forum
Just hang in there and you will see that truth and reason will always triumph over the sort of nonsense that Ethong continually spurts out.
Poor obsessed compulsive baby. You're compulsively breaking the site rules and behaving like a troll, but you're consumed with Ethan.
Get help willows.
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@ATroubledMan
If they bothered me, I would have said so, but I didn't.
You would lie. Your actions on the site prove it bothers you. No one breaks into the site over and over to post repeat stupidity unless they are bothered. Or in your case, troubled.
Putting words in my mouth is not an intelligent response.
But seeing actions in your behavior is. You have a problem "troubled man", deal with it.
Saying something is stupid without explaining why is also not an intelligent response.
You know its stupid. It doesn't need to be explained to you. You are compulsively seeking attention, I will give it to you, but not the type you crave.
If I were droning, that would mean you could hear me, how is this miracle accomplished?
Writing is a representation of spoken language homer. Please, leave the intellectuality to people with IQ's to match.
Then why would you invoke a numbers game? Who is trying to disprove God? You?
I did not invoke numbers homer. You did. And like all liberal atheists, you think any reference to numbers is ad popullum. Your poor education is your responsibility.
It means one group is smaller than another. That was your argument, wasn't it?
I did not mention groups homer. I said millions of people find God. You say there is absolutely no evidence of God yet millions become convinced of God ever year. You brought in groups.
The numbers game you started?
Stupidity will not help you homer. Is it not amazing to you that so many millions find enough evidence of God if there exists no evidence at all?
Who should be canceled out?
Believers and nonbelievers do not "cancel" each other out homer. That is just stupidity you spouted.
Is that some friend of yours you'd like me to meet
He would not call me a friend, and I suspect you've already "met" him. Like you, he's also "troubled".
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@zedvictor4
...it would still remain impossible to prove the existence of an external god.
"External God" is your creation homer.
Who believes what isn't the issue here.
Athais dismembered your argument like a mechanic taking apart a lemon.
And the millions upon millions keep finding God, while you dance around with your inane "external God", whom you inexplicably admit, you cannot perceive.
God was proven to me. But in your desperation, you need to be obtuse to that fact. I can smell your frustration.
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@RoderickSpode
Yes he does Rod. Stephen thinks when words are in the bible, they magically lose the ability all other words possess to have more than one meaning.Do you really think you can just ignore the Hebrew and Greek translations?
And for the record, the angry atheist shtick doesn't work.
Stephen, unlike the radio host, doesn't know he's an angry atheist. What you see is him, not a shtick.
Basically, he will simply repeat his angry post as if you didn't respond.
Unfortunately, for you anyway, you don't have any of those advantages.
He will still try to talk over you and shout you down with all bold, all caps and claims that you are "lying". But you're right. It doesn't work.
Good post.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Christianity preceded church. But in your desperation, you can only hope.
When you say ouch, we know who's hurt.
On the day we both die, there will be millions in Church all over the world worshipping God.
50 years after we both die, there will be millions in Church all over the world worshipping God.
On the day we both die, there will be more Christians on Earth than there were on the day we were born.
And there will be more singing groups, praising the God you deny. How do those truths make you feel Deb?
Maybe corona will finally do the trick eh? Don't hold your breadth Abdul.
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@Imabench
You are again, spot on. But these are calculations Sanders and his team know. So what is keeping him in?
A spot on the ticket?
A sweet ambassadorship?
Sticking it to the DNC?
A delusion he can still win?
Power to pick some Cabernet officers?
What?
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*They said Trump couldn't win. He did.
*They said they'd move to Canada if he did. They didn't.
*They said there would be race wars if Trump won. There weren't.
*They said the stock market would crash if Trump won. It didn't.
*They said unemployment would rise if Trump won. It didn't.
*They said the economy would tank if Trump won. It didn't.
*They said the middle class would shrink if Trump won. It didn't.
*They said manufacturing jobs would not return if Trump won. They did.
*They said we'd be in a war if Trump won. We weren't.
*They said abortions would become illegal if Trump won. It didn't.
Now they're saying..
we're all fucked and Trump is getting a second term
*They say we're all fucked if Trump gets a second term.
What has history shown us about their prognostications?
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@Greyparrot
...if there was a functioning immigration system then they could simply do it legally without any need for a coyote.
This is a lie. We cannot possibly take in every immigrant who wants to come in.
We do have a functioning immigration system, but by "functioning", HB means " open borders".
Think of the lack of logic here. Immigrants try to bypass the immigration system not because it isn't functioning, but because it IS, and would rightly reject them!
HB sneakily assumes that all immigrants would be accepted if we had a "functioning" system. Why would they? Because as far as HB is concerned, a "functioning" system is one that let's every immigrant in!
Imagine the million more disease carriers we would have had sneaking around America if Trump had not had the good sense to block their entry and ship out the illegals before corona!
The problem is current economic system, not immigration.
Even more reason to not compound the problem with poor backward illegals.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
He runs away when you don't take his red herring bait. His back and Forth's last only as long as you're willing to follow his little rabbit holes, which is why he does so poorly with GP.You explained your opinion, I'm not interested in getting into a back and forth with you so trying baiting someone else.
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@Barney
He won't Ragnar. He's a liar. Just his deceitful behavior here proves it.
If you posted the PM's, his obsession and compulsion would not change. He would rationalize them, and his compulsion would just keep forcing him to post.
The man has a mental issue. No amount of reason or logic will change him. He needs medication and a doctors care.
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@Willows
@ATroubledMan
That is true, but there are millions who don't believe in God.
There are still millions who do, and it seems like its the ones who do that bother you.
The validity of a person believing in God has equal weight to a person who doesn't believe in God, so they cancel each other out.
That's pretty stupid, but you are free to believe any stupid thing you want. And if the "canceled each other out" why are you here droning about the ones who do believe?
Regarding numbers, there are about 2.1 billion Christians which would probably outnumber atheists,
So what? You don't see me droning on atheist websites that they cannot disprove God. Numbers game are just that, games.
but compared to world population, Christians would be outnumbered.
By whom? And what would that mean?
Unfortunately, the numbers game doesn't really count. (;
Unfortunately for you. Christians outnumber atheists, and theists outnumber atheists. Yet here you are, on a religious board, still in a lather about people you claim should be canceled out.
I tagged Willows because he's also a troubled man, I thought you two might hit it off.
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@zedvictor4
No winners, no losers....
If you stalk, spam, and drone sophistry, there will be losers.
Just entertainment.
Watching you attempt to be intellectual is entertaining.
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@zedvictor4
Now that you've claimed your case is proven that there is no God, and that since you cannot see what you admit you cannot see, there must be no God, will your "there is no God" drone be curtailed? I bet not.
I still believe in God. Millions of others still do too. Your position is still loony fringe. Looks like your frustration is going to be around for a while.
But your "case" is "proven"! Lol.
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@Dr.Franklin
Lol. This must be that non-religious forum that has a tiny sub-forum called "beliefs and skepticism".
The idiot is talking about civility.
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A better example of mental illness is you. We are watching you suffer from delusion and compulsion in real time.An excellent analogy would be religion, for example...
anti-social behaviors such as bigotry, hatred, sexism and vilifying minority groups
And rudeness, disrespect, fraud, dishonesty, spamming, and stupidity. You won't see your own antisocial behavior because you're deluded, but I just thought I'd include them in your hypocrites list for the lolz.
Goodness only knows what sort of sexual perversions a hardened Christian for example, would have.
If you are so compulsive as to continually shame yourself in public, we know what sort of sexual perversions you have.
But unlike you, we don't obsess over them, or make the same post compulsively over them. We just laugh in pity as Ethan tosses you for lolz, and your compulsion keeps forcing you back. And people say mental illness isn't funny.
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@Willows
@Tee_Wrex
Must be your love forcing you to keep making sock puppets to come back to the religion board eh loser?The irony,Of course, Is that nobody hates religion more than those who are religious.
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@SkepticalOne
I would agree, but the fictional little stories in the gospels are called parables, not fiction. The bible has the best literature of any genre in the world, and a glance at it's performance throughout history verifies that.
But some people miss the wisdom and beauty of the message by getting stuck on the talking snake. Like an uneducated dweeb who comes away from a classic like "Animal Farm" with the gem, "It's not true, animals don't talk."
Everyone cannot have a high IQ, and we must take the dumb with the smart.
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@blamonkey
Good post.
You say, "Moral Objectivity has its own bugbears too." And then list only that many disagree with it. I don't really count that as a bugbear.
I'm not measuring how many people advocate an idea, or how strongly they do, the logical soundness of an idea is not affected or determined by absolute adherence. (we will never get absolute adherence)
But is the idea sound?
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@Willows
Like mental illness in the form of compulsion?...definitely something more serious going on there.
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@DrSpy
I thought it was kinda funny.
It was.
Nah. They're mostly dolls. But a few fancy themselves jacks of all trades.It is a tough crowd here.
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@DrSpy
Hi DrSpy. I know what you're talking about. You've replace Schrödinger's cat with a tree in the forest.
Quantum mechanics says quantum events are affected by our observation of them, but a tree falling in the forest and making a sound is a whole series of events, not a single quantum event.
You had the basic idea, you just misapplied it. Quantum effects are very interesting to me because they threaten to nullify the materialist's claim that nothing but matter and energy exist, and blows the skeptics who scoff at miracles right out of the water.
It's sad that so few understand the concepts that it usually pointless to try to discuss them here.
I like your avatar. Do you know its from spy vs spy? I loved that magazine.
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@zedvictor4
The lack of a mechanism to detect sound is what it is.
And what is it? Everything is what it is. Tautology is a type of sophistry.
If you're trying to sound intelligent, you're doing it wrong.
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