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@thett3
@SkepticalOne
@HistoryBuff
@Intelligence_06
@Mesmer
Can nobody evaluate any of the arguments in the links and give a reasoned rebuttal? The authors do not need credibility, they are not asking you to believe in God. Is what they say reasonable and rational? If not, why?
So if 2 guys on a website said 2 + 3 = 5 you would dismiss it because, what, they're 2 guys on a website? Why don't liberals ever address the points of the argument?
We know you disagree, but why? Stop telling is over and over you disagree. Stop telling us you don't find some guy or other credible. Your credulity is not the standard of veracity.
You might even find that some people on the right agreed with you if you ever gave us your argument instead of just your negative, and biased opinion of the other guy.
This is not a popularity contest, it's a debate website.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Yes I think it's hysterical for an atheist to tell anybody in any religion how they should freaking practice that religion. And if you could care less don't freaking address it
I always laugh.
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@dustryder
So your only point now is that the crowd chanted, "Hang Mike Pence"?
Or is it also that the chant meant the crowd was in rebellion to the government? If not, then thanks for playing.
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@3RU7AL
Have you ever gotten one of them to see the lack of logic in those concepts?
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@BrotherDThomas
YOUR QUOTE IS MEANINGLESS BECAUSE YOU HAVE YET TO ADDRESS YOUR HAM CURSE, UNDERSTOOD?:
But I have addressed it! You said you were not a racist but Jesus was. That is a difference between you and your Lord Jesus, Mr. village idiot.
Your schtick is not getting you out of this one. Please tell us, Mr. Only True Christian, how you can disagree with your Lord and still call yourself a "true" Christian?
I think Jesus would call you a pseudo Christian if he knew you opposed him on racism. Are you hiding your disobedience from your Lord?? Shame!
Is your church also against Jesus, or are they racist like him? They must be racist. Is that why you are ashamed to talk about your church?
Finding out you may be a fake Christian is upsetting isn't it Mr. Not so true Christian?
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@BrotherDThomas
Still running from your falling out with your Lord Jesus huh DeeDee? Be careful that Jesus doesn't reject you are a pseudo Christian. True Christians follow their Lord.
I myself believe that only idiots disagree with Jesus, so your disagreement is not surprising as I already knew you were an idiot.
So will you try to get your Lord to see it your way? Will you correct him and bring him to your more perfect way? After you get right with your Lord on the racism issue, you can then work on your stupidity issue.
I will support you all the way DeeDee.
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@BrotherDThomas
I can be non racist with the black man, and have many friends that are black...
I don't doubt that Mr. Bunker. My point was that you clearly said Jesus IS racist. That puts you in opposition to your Lord Jesus!
They knew when to leave Christianity when finding out they are Ham cursed by Jesus, and went other ways
But that still leaves you and your Lord Jesus in opposition to each other on racism DeeDee.
What does your Lord think about you bucking his authority so? No one cares about your spammed links. But I do care about how the board's only true Christian can be in direct opposition to his Lord Jesus.
Can you explain that DeeDee? Or do you need to check with your loony church first.
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@dustryder
Please stop being a douche.
Here are my supporting facts.
1. The demonstrators taking selfies with Capitol police INSIDE the Capitol building.
2. Videos of capitol police holding doors open for demonstrators.
3. Videos of inside the capitol where people are snapping pics, walking casually around, and singing patriotic songs in the presence of clearly relaxed capitol police.
4. Not a single fatality of any officer of the law.
5. No one brought a weapon to a rebellious insurrection?
6. The head of the Senate and boss of the Capitol police declining to send more officers.
7. Not a single demonstrator has been charged with insurrection or rebellion.
8. An FBI report that there was no attempt at insurrection or overthrow of the US government.
Here is your supporting fact.
1. The demonstrators were chanting, "Hang Mike Pence!"
Democrats called the Antifa/BLM riots "mostly peaceful", but officers were killed, flags were burned, and chants were, "Death to America!” and "Burn it all down!"
Your hypocrasy is sickening.
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@Bones
When you've beaten the troll and he wants to quit but is too ashamed to, he doesn't @ you in his reply hoping you "miss" his post.
I never demanded you to debate me.
No, you begged me.
I know, this is all you have. Of course you don't tire, you have no real commitment waiting for you, you simply sit on your computer, refreshing your browser every minute hoping someone gave you attention.
And clueless trolls do!
You are like a...
No one cares what I am like to you doofus. Least of all me.
So you're likening me to a retard. Same thing.
You would get it if you weren't a retard.
So you keep being a public idiot because you find it funny?
Nope. It's just funny that to see a guy who's simultaneously aggressive yet useless in actual debate.
Then why did you say "nope"?
There is a difference between running from a debate and running form the forums. You have done the first. You are pretty close to doing the second.
That must be why you "forgot" to @ me this time, I was about to run. Lol!
I will keep asking you to debate as long as you continue to throw your poor insults.
But you will "forget" to @ me. You will face your stupidity bonsey.
I will say it again, your insults only highlight how immature you are.
What did your insults to my mother highlight about you?
So that makes you the guy cowardly running away from the stupid guy?
To the stupid guy, yes.
Yikes that doesn't look to good on your CV. The guy running from "idiot".
The stupid guy would not get my CV.
I would tell you to mature,...
Would telling child rape jokes like you be maturity?
I will illustrate the situation like this.
I don't care.
Of course, I know you have an allergy to facts.
Your illustrations are now facts? It's no wonder you're confused.
It didn't happen because you realised "damn this is a situation in which non sequitars are punished, better head out"
At least now you admit the debate didn't happen. So what was the vote on?
No trust me, any sane person reading this will think "wow Bones has made his intentions of wanting a civil conversation clear, but Ethang just doesn't seem up to it".
Was your "forgetting" to @ me one of the ways you intended to make clear you wanted a civil conversation? Or was it insulting my mother?
When you realize no one cares, not even me, you will stop stupidly repeating nonsense. Till then, you will probably keep trying to hide your dumb replies to mask that you want to run.
I will be here for you shemp.
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@BrotherDThomas
Hey village idiot!
Nothing about how you and Jesus disagree on black people? So you are right and your Lord is wrong? Which of you is Lord again?
You will dodge DeeDee. Don't worry, no one cares. Not even me. Maybe Landover church will send you an update patch for your broken schtick.
You're not a racist but all black people are cursed. Lol. Ok DeeDee, you aren't racist at all.
What a dweeb.
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@BrotherDThomas
Lol! I point out your slip up and you want to run away now?
You said you and Jesus disagree on racism DeeDee. Can you explain that contradiction Mr. Only True Christian?
You wouldn't be @ting me every other post if I was meaningless moron.
So tell us DeeDee. What does your Lord Jesus think about you disagreeing with Him about blacks? Is the moron Hari becoming your new Lord? Are you switching over to moron Hinduism?
Or will you dodge my questions again? Feel that in the back of your throat? It's called shame.
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@3RU7AL
I'm not certain TS's purpose is to discourage DeeDee. I thinks he knows that DeeDee isn't technically sane, and that his response would be the same regardless of what is said to him.
Think of DeeDee as the board's village idiot, and TS is the person who allows him not to have to eat out of a dumpster.
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@zedvictor4
Between ones ears is the only place in the universe where one can presume to be aware of reality.
Reality is not affected by your awareness at all my easily triggered friend. There is your awareness, and there is reality. Two separate and different things.
Don't beat yourself up. You are fighting through a liberal brainwashing, it will take time to get it. Take one day at a time.
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@Double_R
The OP did
I wasn’t responding to the OP, I was responding to you.
And I was responding to the OP which mentioned Nigeria.
I've been to Nigeria several times, but I care about the logic in the argument. Mesmer, in this particular case, is correct. The logic that says American whites are racist because they hold all the power, applies equally well to the blacks in Nigeria.
Except that this is not the argument. You are focusing all of your energy refuting a strawman.
The OP agrees with me. You are liberal, so you must run away from this argument.
Congratulations.
Thanks, but beating liberals at logic is nothing to be smug about.
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@zedvictor4
It is irrational to assume God.
Well, at least you're being honest
No, I'm being logical. Mr. E is all about logic.
It is ALWAYS irrational to assume ANYTHING without logical justification. The process is illogical regardless of what the assumption is about.
Christians do not assume God, no matter what your liberal atheist dogma tells you. Reality does not reside between your ears.
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@dustryder
Stop being a douche. I never denied the chant. What I denied was that Jan 6th was some sort of insurrection against America instigated by Trump.
Pretending to ignore my videos doesn't save you. They are still there, and they contradict the claim you and Double_R are trying to advance.
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@3RU7AL
What do you have against entertainment? : )
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@BrotherDThomas
The idiot who says he is doing a parody of racist Christianity, turns out to be a racist himself when poked. Lol. You only have to scratch liberals a little to see the fake just under the glossy paint.
He says Jesus "condoned" slavery so "black" for DeeDee is an insult. You and Jesus are racists eh DeeDee? So Landover is a racist church? I should have known you were racist. You're certainly stupid enough.
No, Bible fool, I am not racist, but our JUDEO-Christian Bible and Jesus most certainly are!
But don't you and your Lord Jesus always agree? Didn't you say you are the only true Christian on the site?
Shhhhhh, you are nothing in this Religion Forum as the link shows below.
Don't try to dodge Hari style now, Pedro. If you are this great, and only true Christian, how can you disagree with your Lord on such a fundamental issue?
Sorryfor the Biblical Truth upon your modus operandi of Jesus giving you the dreadful Ham Curse in you being a black man of which you will NEVER be able to shed for obvious reasons, sorry. :(
So Jesus is a racist but you are not? In what other ways do you, the only true Christian, disagree with Jesus? So you need not follow Jesus 100% to be a true Christian, huh?
Something tells me Jesus also doesn't go to Las Vegas whorehouses like you do either. Well, live and learn. The 100% true Christian just validated the Bible.
"All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. There is no one righteous, no, not one."
Have you been lying to us DeeDee? Should I send you some spackle for your broken schtick?
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Some of the problem in conversations about origins is equavocation on certain words. For example, when we say, "every thing has a cause", what does the word "thing" mean in that sentence?
Theists know there are only 2 "things" in existence, God, and everything else. God is not really a "thing" like creation. Natural, physical, universal laws apply to creation, not the creator. This is only logical, for the creator preceeds creation.
The atheists confusion come in when he conflates the creator and his creation, irrationally thinking that both must submit to the same laws.
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@zedvictor4
So who "started" the floaty about bloke of your picture book bible Mr E.
He had no "start".
I would suggest that your GOD also contradicts science.
Sure, but it is irrational to assume God, who predates science, and created science, must adhere to the laws governing his creation.
Hey.......He's just been floating about for ever.
Again, your incredulity is not a debating point.
And where did he find the raw materials?
Perhaps you aren't familiar with all the meanings of the word, "creator". God can create something out of nothing. There are verses in the Bible expounding this amazing concept.
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@Double_R
You made your answer obvious; because you think hypocrisy is fine as long as you can concoct it within the other side.
I will never allow a thief to charge me with theft. The left loves doing that. I don't want to hear your hypocritical views about Jan 6th while cities and federal buildings are still smoldering and business are still shut.
Why?
Because you were deceptively trying to use your "facts" to support a false narrative. I will not allow that. The only person who died was a Trump supporter illegally shot by a capitol officer.
You claim that conservatives dismiss this occurrence because the left doesn’t seem to care about Antifa/BLM. In other words, you’re justified in your hypocrisy as long as long as the other side does it too.
Those "other words" are yours. Please do not try to saddle me with them. If the multiple officers murdered during the Antifa/BLM riots didn't bother you, why should I listen to you about an officer hurting his finger?? Hypocrasy like that makes me sick.
You ignored my questions to you in my post, you get the same treatment here. Understand liberals, no one is here to be grilled by you as you ignore their questions.
Everyone reading this thread knows what your answers would be of the roles were reversed. The question is, do you?
You mean every liberal here reading this thread assumes he knows what my answers would be of the roles were reversed.
Not only do liberals assume, but they are ready to convict the conservative on just their assumption. Ethan doesn't allow that.
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@BrotherDThomas
The idiot who says he is doing a parody of racist Christianity, turns out to be a racist himself when poked. Lol. You only have to scratch liberals a little to see the fake just under the glossy paint.
He says Jesus "condoned" slavery so "black" for DeeDee is an insult. You and Jesus are racists eh DeeDee? So Landover is a racist church? I should have known you were racist. You're certainly stupid enough.
But I still love you DeeDee.
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@Double_R
Because I am not looking at Nigeria.
The OP did.
I don’t live there nor do I have any plans to travel there, ever, so I have no reason to take any interest in what’s going on there.
One wonders then why are you in this thread?
Do you?
I don't have to. The same logic applies. It could have been Lebanese in Liberia, or Austrians in South Africa.
Is there a reason you care so much about Chinese Nigerians,
I've been to Nigeria several times, but I care about the logic in the argument. Mesmer, in this particular case, is correct. The logic that says American whites are racist because they hold all the power, applies equally well to the blacks in Nigeria.
...or is this just a lame attempt to paint the opposition as hypocrites based on a complete lack of understanding of the opposing position?
No. I just like logic. But if you had a complete lack of understanding of the opposing position, perhaps you should have waited until you had gained some knowledge before you posted?
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@dustryder
I don't need to address anything. I haven't made any claims, you have.
So let's go to the tape. You said....
To be quite clear, the description of "I see people solemly singing the national anthem, taking selfies with capitol officers, and having doors held open for elderly ladies." does not match up with "protesters were chanting “let’s hang with Mike Pence”. You can dismiss anything you like, but until you actually address this discrepancy instead of conjuring up an excuse, you are a dishonest partisan hack.
You are claiming that there is a discrepancy, right? You say people were chanting, "“let’s hang with Mike Pence”. I'm saying people were friendly and festive. I have video to support my claim. My claim refutes your implication that the crowd was violent and rebellious.
What you want is for me to see ONLY your claim, and then interpret it the loony democratic way. They were angry at Pence yes, but that doesn't mean any of your claim is true.
They still took no weapons. No officer was killed. The building was not torched, and Pelosi did refuse to send in the capitol police. Sorry dusty, the partisan hack is you.
And when confronted with a contradiction to that claim, you deflect.
What was the contradiction? Which of my claims did you contradict?
When you get called out for deflecting, you deflect again.
No matter how long it takes you, you will have to accept that your perception is not reality.
Hence dishonest partisan hack
The FBI found that there was no insurrection or rebellion. No one has been charged with insurrection or rebellion. The facts on the ground call you a partisan hack.
I reject your hypocrasy.
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@Amoranemix
ethang5 to TheUnderdog :
But as I suspected, atheists will not want to talk about the thread's topic, but will instead tell us how they personally don't believe the Bible.[6]
[6] Your prediction turns out to be wrong.
Unless you carry the plural of majesty, my prediction is still right.
Just their responses here aptly demonstrate the irrationality of atheism.[7]
[7] Is that a fact or just your personal opinion ?
It would be amazing if my personal opinion was being posted by atheists. The OP claimed atheism was irrational. Not a single atheist poster, including you, has spoken about atheism. Instead, you all either attacked Christianity, or merely requested clarification of his argument.
If any of you actually tried to defend atheism, he would quickly see that something irrational cannot be logically defended. And that is why the responses here aptly demonstrate the irrationality of atheism.
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@TheUnderdog
Christianity first excelled in those parts of the world that had a higher percentage of people who could read. In fact, Christianity really took off AFTER the printing press made bibles accessable to all. There were no colleges when Christianity started.
Christianity took off when the Roman empire became Christian. People didn't know how to read back then.
People knew how to read. There is a passage in the gospels of Jesus reading in the temple at 33 AD.
For example, you were told the world is spherical. You believed it. What's the difference there?
The scientific consensus is that the earth is round. I can google map the shape of the earth and confirm the world is spherical.
You were told, and you believed it. Don't castigate others for things you're also doing.
If the Bible itself discouraged belief in God, the Advent of the printing press and formal schools would have quickly killed Christianity.
People didn't always read the bible. I have a bible at home. It doesn't mean I read all of it.
Is the goalposts now reading ALL of the Bible?
The typical person who bought a bible didn't read all of it.
The typical person where and when? The typical person a few years ago learned the Bible in school. It was a big part of his education. In non-western countries, people know the Bible almost by heart.
Christianity florishes where people can read and Bible's are available.
Christainity is losing supporters because people are reading bad bible quotes and deciding that they don't want to be affiliated with it.
First, Christianity is growing worldwide, not losing supporters. The Bible is still the most known and quoted work of literature. Hardly any verse of the Bible is unknown. People in the west are doing just what the Bible predicted, setting themselves up as God, and thus must reject the Bible which contradicts any God but Jehovah.
Your two sentences contradict each other.
What I meant to say was when literacy became common significantly after people became religious. This doesn't mean people read the bible initially just because they were literate.
There was hardly anything else to read. There were no libraries. The Bible is what most people learned to read on. Virtually all early Christian leaders were able to read. It was the Bible that convinced them. Heck, Matthew, Paul, John, and Luke could all read.
People are reading the bible and are alienated by it.
Untrue. This is your opinion. Most people who say they are "alienated" by the Bible held that opinion before they read the Bible.
Reading the Bible is a very dangerous thing for an atheist to do. What most do instead is read snippets online beside atheist interpretations on atheist websites. My experience has been that very few atheists actually know the Bible. They know movies and TV shows, and ignorant views from idiots like DeeDee or Stephen.
People are converting in record numbers in Africa, Asia, and South America under no threat at all. To what do you attribute that?
Atheism is stigmatized in Africa.
Atheism is stigmatized everywhere. Only 12% of the world's population is atheist.
In Asia, christianity isn't that popular except in countries that are copying the west.
This is untrue. Christianity is the fastest growing religion in Asia.
South Korea likes to copy the west so they have a lot of christians there.
Your view is simplistic and naeve. America is now the one copying Korea with K-Pop. There are growing Christian populations in North Korea and China.
When the west is the wealthiest civilization in the world, other civilization like to copy them.
If other civilazations liked copying the west, and the west was turning away from Christianity, wouldn't other civilazations also be turning away? Your argument is self-contradictory U.D.
He says God is a "genocidal maniac unfit for worship.", But do people who say such silly things ever wonder how Christianity was able to get a majority of people to convert and consider God to be worthy of worship?
Because the people who get converted to christianity never fact check the bible.
I got converted and I checked the Bible. Every Christian I have known in my 60 years has been converted BECAUSE of what the Bible says, and have learned it better after conversion. The world is much bigger than the 5 mile bubble around your house.
You have somehow confused your opinion with reality.
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@Double_R
The lack of homosexuals in positions of power was a supporting argument for claims of discrimination, not the argument itself. The argument itself was the litany of examples that every person who lived through the 90’s or before saw for themselves in addition to the litany of well documented examples of discrimination nationwide. It wasn’t exactly a secret.
The exact same things are true for Asians in Nigeria. You easily see it for homosexuals in America, but not for ethnic Chinese in Nigeria. Why?
I don’t know anything about Nigerian politics or it’s racial history so perhaps you can enlighten me… did blacks in Nigeria enslave the white population for 400 years, then free them into a society with no education, no resources to care for themselves and no compensation for the work they did to build the country’s wealth, then spend the next 100 or so years stopping them from voting, owning businesses, and buying their own homes, then suddenly and finally change the rules to make them facially neutral even though by that time the black population already controlled everything?
No. But is your point that discrimination, racism, and bigotry cannot exist absent that history? No one from 400 years ago is alive today. No one alive today can be blamed for 400 year old behavior.
The same things you point to as evidence for oppression in America against blacks, exist for oppression in Nigeria against Chinese Asians.
Mesmer's satire has exposed the hypocrasy in the American liberal's position.
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@TheUnderdog
Because most people, especially people without college degrees (like the people who originally converted to christianity) don't bother to fact check everything they are told.
Christianity first excelled in those parts of the world that had a higher percentage of people who could read. In fact, Christianity really took off AFTER the printing press made bibles accessable to all. There were no colleges when Christianity started.
They are told there is an invisible man in the sky; they believe it.
Told by whom? Christianity says God is NOT a man, and is NOT in the sky. I'm a Christian and was never told that, not are those things in the Bible. You seem to be telling us your uninformed opinions.
They are told that the bible is his word, they believe it.
Is your problem with belief? For example, you were told the world is spherical. You believed it. What's the difference there?
They never bother to read the bible because they can't read.
Even people who can't read, can think. If the Bible itself discouraged belief in God, the Advent of the printing press and formal schools would have quickly killed Christianity. Reality contradicts you. Christianity florishes where people can read and Bible's are available.
By the time people learn how to read, their faith is cemented in. But atheism is developing and Christianity is losing its stronghold on the US, the EU, and other western places.
Your two sentences above contradict each other.
People converted under threat of death by the Roman empire after the emperor had converted
This is not true, but for the sake of argument, let's accept it. People are converting in record numbers in Africa, Asia, and South America under no threat at all. To what do you attribute that?
But as I suspected, atheists will not want to talk about the thread's topic, but will instead tell us how they personally don't believe the Bible.
Just their responses here aptly demonstrate the irrationality of atheism.
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@TheUnderdog
Shhh! The liberals here are trying to tell you when racism is acceptable and when it is not. It's an important thing to know.
For example, if your IQ is below 70, then you are a racist if you use the N word.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
The universe started itself. From the "nothing"OrrrrrGod started it or himself. From the nuff nuff
Fake. The universe is inanimate matter. God is not.
In comes the statement / sentence. ( God started himself ) from the " nothing "
The only person who says God "started" himself is you. Implying this is Christian doctrine is dishonest. I don't mind you being dumb, but dishonesty will be challenged.
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@Double_R
Blacks are in power and causing systemic racism to oppress any racial group that isn't Black.
Evidence?
What evidence is there in America for the claim that heterosexuals are causing systemic oppression to homosexual groups?
Wasn't the Darth of homosexuals in power positions used as evidence for systemic oppression against gays at one time? Do we not see the same scarcity of whites and Asians in power positions in Nigeria?
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@TheUnderdog
why would you say you left christianity and then assume all of the stupid stuff christians believe is actually true?
Because he has no real argument against Christianity, so must use points in his argument that he has already dismissed as untrue in his life.
Here is another contradiction.
He says God is a "genocidal maniac unfit for worship.", But do people who say such silly things ever wonder how Christianity was able to get a majority of people to convert and consider God to be worthy of worship?
I believe God exists but he is a genocidal maniac unfit for worship.
He uses Christian doctrine as true to justify his rejection of God whom he calls false. It's the epitome of an irrational argument.
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@n8nrgmi
lower energy states come from higher energy states. something had to cause the first maximum energy state of the universe. as far as we know it from our reality, an energy state greater than the universe must have caused it to occur, because we have no reason to think the universe could have caused itself given it had a maximum energy state as a beginning.
Exactly. In fact, the claim that the universe started itself violates some of the laws of science. But atheists are quite willing to contradict science in order to keep God out of the picture.
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@Intelligence_06
Was that revealed to you by some divinity, or is it one of your own divine pronouncements?
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@dustryder
Address the things I saw in the videos I mentioned. Those things do not agree with "insurrections" and "rebellions". Do you deny that no weapons were brought to the capitol on Jan 6th? Do you deny that protestors were let into the building? Do you deny that the atmosphere inside the capitol was mostly jovial and festive? Do you deny that Pelosi denied Trump's request for additional capitol police? Do you deny that not a single arrested person has been charged with rebellion or insurrection?
The only dishonest partisan hack here is you.
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The Mystery of Earth's Water Origin Solved
Ancient meteorites reveal that our planet had plenty of water, right from the start.
Oops! There goes the atheist counter that the Earth does not have enough water to have fed Noah's flood.
....Geologic evidence suggests that over Earths history, the fluxes of water between the interior and the surface - have been large.
The Bible notes that Noah's flood was augmented by water gushing from underground. How did the author know this fact so long before science did?
"This discovery can help scientists create new, more accurate models of what's going on inside the Earth,..."
"...new, more accurate models..." means, closer to the narrative in the Bible.
"We"re not sure how it got there. Maybe it"s been stuck there since early in Earth"s history...."
Science now agrees again with the Bible, this time that there has always been water on the Earth, and lots of it.
Again, though the Bible AND science silences and shames atheists, they can only dismiss the Bible while claiming to uphold science which says the same thing!
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@Tradesecret
Well at least you remain consistently stupid. Good for you
A requirement for Landover Baptist Church members. Lol.
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@BrotherDThomas
As an aside, why do you always ignore questions about your loony church?
I have no idea in what you are babbling about, show me this alleged church!
Lol. I forgot, since you're the only true Christian on Earth, you have no church eh?
Are you ashamed of them? Is it supposed to be a secret?"
Isn't the Landover Baptist Church your home? It's a site that is run by atheists doing a parody on Christianity. There is a member there by the name of Brother D. Thomas claiming he has a missionary ministry to brothels in Nevada. Members of that website go around to different religious oriented forums to spread their form of "comedy". They're often identifiable by having a user name with a title like "brother", "sister," "deacon", etc. And there is a picture of someone holding a bible in a pulpit just like your avatar here on Dart DeeDee.
From Wiki - The church was created by Chris Harper, who obtained his master's degree in English literature from George Mason University in 1993 after being expelled from Liberty University
Getting expelled seems to be the lot of your church members DeeDee.
Aren't you an evangelist of Landover? Don't you want to spread your church's message here DeeDee?
Lol! What a dweeb!
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@BrotherDThomas
EtHAMg5, here, let me give you an example...
No one cares DeeDee.
No one is engaging you. No one has any interest in reading, for the hundredth time, your silly monotonous spam.
Your posts are childish stupidity. If this was actually you, we would play along in pity. But you actually think you're in a parody. After people realize you're no different from a poorly written bot, they tune you out. You go along oblivious. Your religious hate fueling your stupidity.
But Ethan won't tune you out. Ethan will be here for you. Ethan is the go to for all trolls, militants, and loonies like you.
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@Ramshutu
@Double_R
we all know, many of those protesters were chanting “let’s hang with Mike Pence”.
Do you know why we dismiss this liberal charge? Because BLM/Antifa have been chanting, "Death to America/Kill the pigs" and burning flags for years. Yet for you, "Hang Mike Pence" is an "insurrection against America. We dismiss blatant hypocrisy.
I mean - if a group of people believe they have no political power and have are currently being systematically oppressed with individuals in power using their levers of power to maintain those systems of oppression - that sounds like something big enough and severe enough to want to riot about. I don’t agree with rioting - just to say I have no doubt that they believe what they’re saying.
I doubt. Such people do not loot innocent businesses, assault innocent bystanders on the streets, or burn down their own neighborhoods. You believe what they're saying because it fits your own narrative. Nothing more. That's why you excuse their lawlessness.
- doesn’t strike me as the coherent actions or behaviour of people who has even started to believe what they’re saying
And once again reality is judged by the credulity of the liberal, not by facts on the ground. It doesn't "strike" him as....
: because that’s what tends happen when elections are actually stolen.
That is what tends to happen in 3re world liberal hellholes, not America. When cartoons of the "prophet" Mohammed were published, people died in France, Pakistan, and other Muslim countries. No one died in America. When Rashdie's book, The Satanic Verses" came out, people died in several countries, including European ones. No one died in America.
Most Americans believe in and love democracy and are not willing to Chuck it just because some have and are, misuseing it.
I don’t know how you guys do it - it must be so tiring to be defending things constantly that you know deep down you don’t even beleive.
We simply don't dis-believe, "deep down" what you think we do. What is tiring is debating people who think they know what we believe "deep down" while being unable to acknowledge any reality that contradicts their political narrative.
140 police officers were injured on Jan 6th.
Your "injuries" include stubbed toes. Police officers were killed during the months of BLM/Antifa riots. Can you explain how hundreds of people, bent on insurrection and rebellion against the US, ready to "overthrow" the government did not kill a single officer? Or burn down the capitol?
Every single single thing I just mentioned are indisputable facts.
Not one of them means it was an "insurrection". You are attempting to place a spin on what happened.
The problem is not that we see different realities, the difference between us is in what parts of reality we choose to disregard.
What you chose to disregard is reality. Sorry, real facts in the ground do not agree with your perception, on Jan 6th or at the BLM/Antifa riots.
...is absurd, nakedly hypocritical and transparently partisan.
Discribes democrat liberals perfectly. And actual reality minus the spin bares that out.
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@sadolite
@ludofl3x
Sadolite is correct.
The government took up both cases and lost. The officials in California were found by the court to have acted illegally and were said to have exhibited a religious bias against the defendant.
Both men lost money and suffered social ostricism. Both businesses have suffered. One has closed.
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@Greyparrot
@sadolite
@ludofl3x
@Dr.Franklin
@Double_R
It amazes me that we seem to be seeing opposite things looking at the same reality.
When I look at videos of Jan 6th at the capitol, I see people solemly singing the national anthem, taking selfies with capitol officers, and having doors held open for elderly ladies.
Liberals seem to see officers being mailed, windows being broken, and somehow, the "intention" of the demonstrators to "overthrow" the government.
The unbiased facts? Not a single officer was seriously harmed. Not a single officer died. No one has been charged with insurrection or rebellion. Nancy Pelosi instructed the capitol police to stand down. It was actually Trump who asked for them.
Unlike Antifa/BLM, the capitol demonstrators did not hide their identities. They did not set fire to the building, they did not assault bystanders.
What does the country do when roughly half of it's population does not see the reality right before their eyes? Biden said, ON TV, that a capitol officer was killed during the demonstration. Is he lying or does he really believe that?
Almost any liberal will tell you that most of the hate is coming from conservatives. I wonder what goes through their minds as they watch Antifa/BLM assault random people on the streets?
Where is this wave of white supremacists killing Anericans? But Biden gets ON TV and claims that is America's #1 threat. The hundreds of black youth being slaughtered in major cities forgotten.
The liberal sees the Kavanaugh hearings and cannot see the fascist horror of condemning a man on a single allegation. Conservatives can actually hear the brownshirts trying to enter the room.
We actually see two realities.
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@Dr.Franklin
you realize that literally the exact opposite could happen too? a judge could keep slavery legal against the will of the people too
Good point!!
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@Vader
@MisterChris
Why don't your avatars show your mod-ship?
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@zedvictor4
I'm sensible.
I have no problem with you believing fantasies about yourself. I'm all for personal happiness.
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@BrotherDThomas
Like I have said many times before,...
You mean, "Like you've spammed many times before.." right?
Everyone seems to be ignoring you in this thread too DeeDee. Does that mean your schtick isn't working?
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@drlebronski
...ethang, drfranklin, greyparrotnone of them can argue.
I haven't checked, but I bet you friend requested every one of them. How does bitterness taste?
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If you've won moron, take your win and go find your life.
Is this your way of admitting that you have been debunked and wishing that I go away?
That is my way of telling you that you're an idiot for demanding I do your will.
I can leave you alone if that is what you wish.
My telling you over and over didn't give you a clue? You can do anything you wish, but if you keep yapping at my heels begging for scraps, I will treat you like the troll you are. Remember, I don't tire or get frustrated. I'm here for you.
When I reply, is it to tell you "no" though you claim to know what no means?
No, it is to call me "flat out stupid".
Then it's no wonder you keep asking. You aren't seeing me tell you "no" over and over. Here, I post it by itself so you can't miss it.
NO!
Now let's see if your obtuseness is an eye thing or a brain thing.
Well in that case, you're running from the incompetent stupid guy who spells like a fourth grader.
Lol. You said "fourth grade", not fourth grader.
What does that make you then?
The man running from the incompetent stupid guy who spells like a fourth grade. :)
So now you're likening me to a retard, are you?
No, I'm likening beating you to taking candy from a retard.
It's just funny that to see a guy who's simultaneously aggressive yet useless in actual debate.
So you keep being a public idiot because you find it funny?
No, you're the idiot claiming someone who declines one of your insipid topics is scared and hiding. We know who you are
So now I'm an idiot? But yes, you are the guy who claims I am stupid, yet when invited to prove the veracity of this claim, goes into hiding. You are a true circus act
You're still the idiot claiming someone who declines one of your insipid topics is scared and hiding.
I keep telling and you stupidly keep asking. Debating you would be like wrestling a cripple.
Should be easy for you then.
So what? Slapping s child is easy too. I you still haven't grasped the meaning of "No".
Because you're an expert in winning debates.
No. Because you're simp.
I am well aware what no means.
If this was true you would have understood and moved on like a normal person. But you're an idiot troll. Luckily for you, you stumbled into a troll whisperer.
The fact remains that you are contradicting yourself. You say I am stupid. You say I am an idiot. You clearly do not like me. You accuse me of being a cripple. And yet, when challenged to prove these accusations, you run and hide.
You are being illogical, but you won't see that till you're out of high school.
The more you call me an idiot, the more I challenge you to a debate. Simple as that.
Ok. Challenge away idiot.
So that makes you the guy cowardly running away from the stupid guy?
To the stupid guy, yes.
I will illustrate the situation like this.
I don't care.
No you can't spell, as is evident with this vote.
The "vote" on the debate that didn't happen? Ok Jasper. I've got your actual idiot posts. The ones you wrote.
I'm not sure, but what I do know is that my senses are telling me that I am communicating with a coward
And when you realize no one cares, not even me, you will stop stupidly repeating it. Till then, I will toss you for the idiot you are. It will be fun, you'll see.
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@BrotherDThomas
In your fantasy world, are you king too?
Did you see my question? Why do you always ignore questions about your loony church? Your schtick doesn't allow you to answer questions?
Stop asking who will be next. No one wants to talk to you. You only have me.
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@Bones
I don't need to debate you to know that I'm better than you...
And yet you follow me around begging. If you've won moron, take your win and go find your life.
I don't need to debate you to know that I'm better than you...
You obviously don't need to debate me to win either.
Yes.. You are hiding from a debate, but you continuously reply in the forums.
When I reply, is it to tell you "no" though you claim to know what no means?
Doesn't matter who it is, but you are running from them nonetheless.
It certainly matters if you're spelling like a fourth grade, or a fourth grader.
Why do you always bring sex into everything?
Ethang is a horney sex pest.
Lol. This is like taking candy from a retard.
Grow up. No means no.
Sure, I'm not the shameful one.
No still means no ldiot.
...but am simply giving you a chance to backup your relentless talk.
No still means no moron.
I'm not the one dodging and hiding from a debate.
No, you're the idiot claiming someone who declines one of your insipid topics is scared and hiding. We know who you are.
I'm waiting for you to realise the fact that only a coward would continuously "provoke" a fellow member and yet run from a change to actually debate.
Provoke? Lol, now who's in whose head? You've got a long wait genius. Pack some PJs.
Okay you flat out called me stupid then.
So do your posts.
You're the one who keeps coming back for more attention.
And instead of attention, you're offering debate?
Yes.
How many "NOs" will it take before your claim that you know what no means, kicks in?
Letus end this BS back and forth and actually see who is more well reasoned.
That was already established by your 3rd post.
You obviously have the time for this forum business, so why not really test your talk?
I keep telling and you stupidly keep asking. Debating you would be like wrestling a cripple. There would be nothing redeeming about such a win. Ask again and you'll get the same answer, Mr. I know what "no" means.
I did not call you a cripple.
Okay you flat out called me stupid then.
You aren't crippled, but you are stupid.
Nope, you're like a little puppy nipping at my shoes, and when turn around to push you away, you squirm and run.
Your multiple "invites" to debate after I've said no are you "pushing me away"? Lol.
You may not be a loony liberal dingbat, but you certainly lack IQ and EQ.
Yet I can spell. Weird huh?
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