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@Polytheist-Witch
There really is a problem with the voting moderation. One one debate, three votes were deleted by bsh1 from one side with the other mod dissenting. The odds of getting your vote deleted increases if you vote for the conservative position.
And guess who just became the top debater? Yep. bsh1. Isn't that convenient. Sometimes it seems bsh1 is working to roll back every advance Mike is working towards.
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@DebateArt.com
It's a good idea. Look into it and let us know what you find.
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I've been tracking traffic in the site, and it has increased slightly. Keep in mind that traffic is not the same as number of users. I think traffic is more important for growth than number of members.
All in all, the site is doing fine Mike. You just keep on track and we will stay with you.
Note to members. Do a search for debate art.com on google each day. Google uses number of searches to rank sites. Our searches will be from wide IP geographic locations. It's not much, but every little bit helps.
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@DebateArt.com
1. Would the forum creator be able to boot out someone previously invited?
2. If someone exhibited really bad behavior in a private forum, would that be reportable to a mod?
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I see you've taken over from bully following me around with your bitterness chocking you. Impressive. Your life must be so full and fulfilling.
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No thanks. That would be like taking a debate with a guy saying the Earth is flat. But if you do get a taker, I'll watch. Good luck.
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Instead of all that venom and bluster, you could have simply asked the first time.
Tell us all why it's impossible for our emotions to be the same as God?
No. Neither you nor Stephen are capable of listening or engaging in real dialogue. The reason is in the bible, the book both of you claim to know.
Do the thinking for us for a change and let's see how you manage that?
While it would benefit you and Stephen to have someone else do your thinking for you, I am not under evaluation. You are not accessing me. I am not submitting so you see how I "manage" anything.
I've told both of you this. Your liberal bent makes you think theists and conservatives need validation from you, and you think you stand on a higher plane and can judge us. You don't. You cannot.
When you get past your bitterness, we will talk. But for now, you aren't willing, and maybe aren't able. So get all that bile out of your system. I can take it.
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Right. Troll for hire is like prostitution. How much did he pay you? Hope it was more than skank pay.
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Pettiness may look good on your bitterness. But I don't click the links of trolls. Thanks anyway.
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It isn't me who made people think you're a troll. It was your behavior. No mention of old post changes that.
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I like how 90% of the idiots from DDO migrated here.....
I just had to repost this.
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Why would you expect God to have treated a bronze age herder the way He treats you?
Because we are all humans.
Only that some of us humans are "illiterate and backwards" who would treat you like a God.
Lol. What a thinker.
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@Goldtop
Well, then you would be seen as god to the literate backward peoples of the time. As were the Lords of Mesopotamia
Exactly
But he'd treat those "illiterate backwards" people like he'd treat 21st century people who see him not as God, but as a anti-theist moron. Yeah, that makes sense.
Goldtop and Stephen. A logic free zone.
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You missed when he declared himself God of Dart?I was unaware he could.
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@Goldtop
Pretty dishonest and silly.
It wasn't, but it wouldn't matter what I said even if you totally agreed with it, you would still respond that way. It's what you do.
Right. Don't address the point. You do not treat all people the same, but you dishonestly expect God to do so.
An immature jerk might see it that way.
And of course, you'll start your sentences with insults, as usual.
Right. Don't address the point. You treat the analogy as if you are 8 years old, but bristle at the reply. If you think the analogy meant God should treat people like 6 year olds, you would be an immature jerk. Wait, do you think that way?
But if you went back 6,000 years, it would be interesting to see you treat people back then as you treat them today. My guess is that you would not return.
An empty statement, vague and pointless, like most of your posts.
Right. Don't address the point. Would you treat people from 6,000 years ago the same as today?
Should I start to post the points in italics so that it's easier for you to dodge them? Lord help if you should address a point by accident.
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You aren't a snowflake. And you aren't offended. Racism stinks. That you can't smell it doesn't mean it doesn't reek.
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Racism with humor smells just as stink. Who would have known?
Funny thing is, do people with high IQ's do this? Most racist idiots assume they share a high IQ simply by being non-canadian, as their posts simultaneously scream out their low IQ.
This one time I'm glad bsh1 is a terrible mod. Ban the morons and we'll have to tell people about the stupidity of racists. Keep the morons and we can show the stupidity of racists. We all know the best argument against racists, is racists.
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Funny that many of the killers of school kids ask those kids if they are Christians, and then shoot the ones who answer affirmatively.
Tell me, are those tattooed, goth, eyeliner wearing, trenchcoated killers of kids conservative or liberal?
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@Wylted
Wow, if you were white, I would think you were self-hating. But obviously the black men raping white women thing is an issue with you.
Insulting them online will teach them a thing or two. You go boy.
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@Wylted
Why do you think that is? Could it be low IQ? Or just a nature prone to violence?
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@Wylted
White culture like mass murder? Cause we've got the edge on that one. Or is only rape bad? Ah, rape of white women. Got you. Those bad, bad, Canadians.If you are going to be racist please do it somewhere else. We can't force Canadians to subscribe to white culture.
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Trolls are slow in the uptake, and mighty suspicious about anything new to them.
-J. R. R. Tolkien
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@3RU7AL
Lol! Brilliant.You are a veritable fount of wisdom. I'm ever so humbled that you've taken precious time out of your day to enlighten us all.
I'll try it the next time I encounter a genius.
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No one has asked for one. You buddy just knee-jerked to that as a dodge.I don't think there is a single, simple definition of god
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Feels bitter...ahem....better to stop dodging? Good. Your feet must be tired. Sit a spell. You'll be on the dance floor again in not too long.
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@SamStevens
You must be playing the "I'll be Darwin game."
the first chicken would have been able to mate with just about every other chicken in that population.
If it's the "first chicken", from where the other chickens? When you say "first", what does that mean?
Populations grow, they do not appear end masse. Perhaps you should have given your post a bit more thought.
...slowly take on the various traits that cause them collectively to become chickens.
That isn't how evolution works Darwin. Individuals change, and they change through individual genetic mutations, not "collectively". And what is a Red Jungle Fowl? How is it different from a chicken? And going back in time, why do we stop there?
....the first chicken would have been able to mate....There wasn't a 'first' chicken running around unable to mate...
Ooo k. I can see we've got us an expert evolutionist here. Tell us more about this first/not first chicken able/unable to mate. It's fascinating.
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In agony or danger, no nature is atheist. The mind that knows not what to fly to, flies to God.
- Hannah More
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Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning.
-C.S. Lewis
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@McSloth
No one is saying YesuaBought is correct, but that bsh1 should have stopped wylted from suggesting such a debate. YesuaBrought's acceptance did not absolve bsh1 from his responsibility as mod. Polytheist-Witch is correct.
The title of the debate should have been worded differently. The topic was, "Does YesuaBrought have the right to live or not" The actual debate topic was a troll.
And yes, wylted is part of the old clique from DDO that get preferential treatment here. None of these things are new to us who came over from DDO.
That being said, it is now obvious that YesuaBrought is trolling too.
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No one has said they aren't a race genius, they being a race does not mean God chose them due to race. Think a little.
So now you are backpedaling.
Only if back peddling means showing you to be a poor thinker. That Jews are a race was never in contention. The question was, did God choose them due to their race? He did not. You stupidly think because they are a race, that must be the reason they were chosen.
You make this logical mistake for 2 reasons. First, you have a severe reading comprehension problem, and second, you are a very poor thinker.
You have now admitted they - Israelites/Jews - are a race.....
I never denied that, so I could not now be "admitting" what I never denied. It's just your reading comprehension problem hobbling you again.
...and are gods chosen people above all other peoples/races.
They are God's chosen, but God did not chose them because of their race as your fakery asserted. Remember, this is a no fakery zone.
It is you who has to think... a lot!
Actually no. Debunking you is easy. You can't even comprehend the logical error you're making here. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. But more fun.
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@Goldtop
Why would you expect God to have treated a bronze age herder the way He treats you?
Because we are all humans.
Pretty dishonest and silly. Even you do not treat all humans the same. Nor do you treat them the same at different ages. Some integrity would help you.
A good analogy is a parent and child. My father could be said to be a different person if we judge only by how he treated me when I was 6 and when I was 37. But my Father was the same person. I was the one changing.
So what you're saying is God treated grown men back then like 6 year olds,
An immature jerk might see it that way. But if you went back 6,000 years, it would be interesting to see you treat people back then as you treat them today. My guess is that you would not return.
...telling them to take an eye for eye, a tooth for a tooth, stone to death those who might work on a Sunday? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Lol
Yes. Our standard ought to be what "makes sense" to an ignorant anti-theist. You got us there.
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You would. But it really is the view of an anti-theist substituting his agenda as fact. Your biased opinion is not fact, no matter how much you believe it, or how important it is to your agenda.I would say that it is the view of someone who views history as a human affair and not as a chess game played by gods
But I do mind when it is asserted or implied that I don't know what I'm talking about.Oh, you know. Unlike Stephen or Goldy, you aren't confused at all. You are a willing, deliberate, and conscious enemy of Christ. You know what you are talking about, but that doesn't make it true. You are fully aware of the dishonesty of the things you say.
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@Stephen
No one has said they aren't a race genius, they being a race does not mean God chose them due to race. Think a little.Israelites are of Israel, you clown. This made them a race .
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You are wrong, and you know it.
In post 95 here is all you said,
"That's because there are a multiplicity of gods with a wide variety of definitions, not just one."
I answered. "You are being asked for your definition. Surely you mean something when you say God. Do you know what that is?
I at least can define what I mean when I say God. You either cannot, or will not.
You did not answer in post 95. You dodged.
In post 98, here is all you said,
I'm sure you could come up with hundreds of sources with definitions for hundreds of different gods, just like me or anyone else.
I answered, "Sure. But I am asking what you mean when you say "God". It is clear now that when you say "God", you haven't a clue what you mean.
if you actually believe that you have "THE" definition of God, then that would indeed be intellectually dishonest.
I answered, "What I believe is immaterial. YOU used the word. Now here you are dodging a question asking, "what do YOU mean when YOU use the word. You haven't clue.
You did not answer in post 98. You dodged.
In post 105, here is all you said,
I'll repeat this yet again because it seems you have yet to comprehend it.
Repeat what? You have never answered. Not in post 95, not in post 98, and not in post 105.
There are hundreds of entities that have been referred to as "God" throughout history.
You aren't being asked what other people refer to as God. We are asking what mean. And it is obvious, you have no meaning.
If the person were a Christian, I would assume he referred to Christ as God, a Muslim to Allah, a Norwegian to Thor.
No one has asked you who "the person" was referring to, but who YOU are referring to. You don't know, yet you keep using a word which for you, has no meaning. Lol.
...the term God has been referred to in a number of ways.
You have not been asked the number of ways God has been referred to. I'm asking you what YOU mean.
You did not answer in post 105. You dodged.
You dodged because you can't answer. You can't answer because for you, the word "God" means nothing. You are vacuous Goldy. Basically empty.
You can stop now, you dodging has gotten embarrassing.
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Dispute the stumble of bsh1, I still like him and think he's doing great. I can't wait to see what else he comes up with.
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@keithprosser
This is the view of those ignorant of bible history.
God is eternal, as such, he can deal with men as humankind. His relationship with us can span all of our lifetimes. Thus, God adjusts how He relates to us because WE change. Man today is very different than man was 6,000 years ago. Why would you expect God to have treated a bronze age herder the way He treats you?
A good analogy is a parent and child. My father could be said to be a different person if we judge only by how he treated me when I was 6 and when I was 37. But my Father was the same person. I was the one changing. Why this simple truth escapes some can only be explained by their anti-theist bias which makes them refuse logic in favor of their agenda.
Or so I am led to believe.
Whomever is leading you is as blind as you are.
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@Stephen
Well theAmalekites were not his chosen people or the Philistines, or Egyptians or thePersians and many many more.
You have not shown that Jews were chosen because of race. All you've done is assumed they were chosen because of race. But this is because you don't know bible history and are pushing a loony agenda. God chose the Jews because of what Abraham did that caused God to make a promise to Abraham. Even 1st year bible class students would know that.
No, it ismade quite clear who his favourites were which race and it wasn't Christians.
Christian is not a race genius. The bible says the Jews are chosen, it does not say the Jews are God's favorite. That is just you adding your fakery to the text yet again.
The Jews were chosen as the people who would have the honor to have the promised Savior born into their nation as one of them. It did not mean they were better or more valuable.
If you only stuck to the text, you wouldn't always come out looking ignorant. Just the text Stephen. There is never any need for fakery.
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Cite the post where you answered. You cannot.
You have nothing but dodge and dance Goldy. Not one reader here can cite where you answered.
Please, have meanings for the words you use. Gibberish is not spoken here.
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@YeshuaBought
No, you mean I sound like an apologist for a rapist. Get your politically correct victimization right.
You did ask for it. Whether you're a troll or a snowflake, I don't really care. Tell it to someone who does.
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If you can somehow force a liberal into a point- counterpoint argument, his retorts will bear no relation to what you've said -- unless you were in fact talking about your looks, your age, your weight, your personal obsessions, or whether you are a fascist.
In the famous liberal two-step, they leap from one idiotic point to the next, so you can never nail them. It's like arguing with someone with Attention Deficit Disorder. -- Ann Coulter
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Words mean nothing to liberals. They say whatever will help advance their cause at the moment, switch talking points in a heartbeat, and then act indignant if anyone uses the exact same argument they were using five minutes ago.
-- Ann Coulter
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As we can tell from his story that some think is a fairytale, (lol) and his quote, you are taking liberties with his position. I don't care either way. I just liked the quote.
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Nope. As we have just seen with goldy, he doesn't have a clue.I think we all have a list of qualities and properties that something must have to qualify as a god.
I doubt there is a single defintion of 'god' that everyone would agree with 100%,
Sure, but goldy was not asked for a consensus, he was asked for his own minimum criteria. He couldn't say.
My atheism is a consequence of my....
Sorry. You love to spout off about your atheism as if it is something you should be praised about. I don't think it makes you special or noteworthy in any way.
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@Stephen
We don't have to. We aren't God. God is not us. It is impossible for our emotions to be the same. One only needs to think a little.Let's have a comparison between the anger and jealousy of a human compared to that of a god.
It must be in that "special" bible you use where God "admits" to being racist. Lol.
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