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@Stephen
You think that Herod was not aware of the OT prophesies of the coming of the Lord, and his resulting sacrifice, death, and glorious resurrection, and the power it will grant unto him, and all who believe in him? I have read the entire Bible in four languages, including those multiple OT prophesies to which Herod had access. Herod was aware of them, and they begin in Genesis 3, so, the resurrection is a concept theJews were well aware would ultimately come. Genesis, Isaiah, Psalms, Job, Hosea, Zechariah, etc, all testify of the power endowed by resurrection, but, if you do not read - all of it - in context, you're likely ignorant of the passages. So be it. None so blind as those who will not see. Have to read to see, you know. Stop assuming and read. The whole bloody thing, not a verse here and there. Context, my friend. Content, content, content. All of it.
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@Stephen
The KJV and the NIV are saying essentially the same thing: that Herod was afraid because, not knowing Jesus, and Herod did not know Jesus, and working entirely on hearsay about mighty miracles now being performed, that were not performed in kind while the Baptist was alive, Herod believed the miracles were being performed by the Baptist, now risen from the dead. And, with the Baptist being assumed to have been risen from the dead, Herod believed the Baptist was now endowed with these powers while incapable of them before the Baptist was beheaded, which Herod knew he, himself, ordered and had assurance it was done by delivery of the Baptist's head on a platter, and that is what caused Herod's fear. Herod feared these miraculous powers might be turned on him, for the word of these powers brought to Herod were of mightier works than Herod, himself, could perform, so he feared for his life, knowing he had wrongly executed the Baptist, who just might feel some revenge. Herod assumed, incorrectly, that the Baptist would visit such revenge on Herod, not understanding that resurrected beings, of whom, by the ancient scriptures he had in his possession, spoke of the power of resurrection, which miracle in and of itself, had never had a historic example, so, what would Herod believe? That the Baptist, wrongly executed, would visit kindness on Herod's evil? But Herod was wrong in his entire assumption. That's what assumptions do: they make an ass of the believers of assumptions.
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@HistoryBuff
rare, once, understood. Rare on multiple iterations, I'm thinking you're trying to convince yourself.
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@SirAnonymous
absolutely agree
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@HistoryBuff
Oh? So now its a matter of frequency? Are we dismissing the claim that there are no incidents of voter fraud at all? Your lot can't stay married to anything, can you? A true history buff would know better. Should we call it "history fraud?"
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@SirAnonymous
Should I charge you rent for space in my head? Kidding. My exact thoughts, as well.
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@JRob
You want some clarification of the Six Sigma Black Belt Primer" Suggestion as a voter to a voter: look it up. I am not going to waste debate space clarifying to every voter what a source is. Look it up. That's your job as a voter, or don't bother voting. Rather cheeky, don't you think, to summarize YOUR version of my debate arguments? 3RU7AL can read it from the debate itself. Your summary summarizes badly at best, demonstrating a general lack of understanding the arguments, and that shows in your vote. Example: you did not bother to try to understand what 2,401 and 1,905 [you dropped the ooo's separator commas] represent in the context of SSBB. Easy enough if you.... look it up. Want that said once again?
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So, what is the difference between a duck?
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To all who argue there is no evidence of voter fraud [not necessarily just the 2020 election]: https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
This documents decided court cases, not accusations.
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While watching the launch of the "Resilience" SpaceX dragon capsule tonight, and a recurring discussion of the possibility of at least billionaire civilian tourist travel into space in the near future, I wondered whether the tourist launch would precede a Mars expedition? Thoughts? Why?
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@Checkmate
By the numbers:
Animal stupidity: intelligence in animals, including man, is relative, but there is no correlation between intelligence and eating other than some people merely eat to live, and I live to eat. I am an avowed omnivore.
Moral acceptance of meat-eating: it is not a mater of morality, it is a matter of taste. I prefer steak to rice. Not to mention that it just so happens that cultivate wetlands, such as rice paddies, and all natural wetlands, river, lakes and oceans deliver more methane into the atmosphere than cows.
Survival: Now we do not absolutely require meat to survive, but it is necessary for thriving. Not to mention that among our tooth variety, we have canines, the purpose of which exclusively to tear flesh. Not to mention that one enzyme in saliva has the exclusive purpose to begin the digestion of meat protein.
Genetics: As said above, morality has no nexus with meat-eating. And our genetic aggressive behavior, even though sometimes excessive, is more related to survival than violence, and, it is not as though we are compelled to violence, because we have the ability to apply morality over violence. That we allow excessive aggression in ourselves is a lack of will power, not weakness to coercion.
Murder: is a crime that is legally exclusive to humans against humans. We do not murder an animal. It is killing, but it is not murder.
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@HistoryBuff
The reality, my history-ignoring friend, is that several states are in automatic recount, and several others with lawsuits filed in court, the which process will conclude one way or the other, but in the meantime, until the Electoral Votes, Dec 14, you can project all you want, but the projection is not reality until Dec 14. Get it?
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@HistoryBuff
actual real world practice.
What you so easily pass off as "real world practice" is nothing but the fourth estate's usurpation of the first estate's documented privilege, as if "practice," aka "tradition" were so bloody important. But the fourth estate is the fourth, not the first, as if the United States of America were just another country, even though it managed to accomplish what no one in the eighteenth century figured would ever happen: the overthrow of the notion that monarchistic Europe dictated the world's convention. We, the people of the USA are exceptional, regardless of Oba'a and his claim that we're ordinary. The Constitution even dismantled the notion of estates. Who is, literally, the first estate today, if one want's to be harnessed to that anachronism? The people, not the government. "We, the people... establish Justice... and the Constitution." Not government. Yes, we, the people elect the President, but there is still a protocol established in writing just so the people can depend on one voice to offer the good news of the person of the Presidency: the current Vice President, not the NY Times, or even the NY Post, the nation's first newspaper.
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Well, my least favorite source, wiki, says, speaking of the apparent winner of a presidential election, "There is no indication when that person actually becomes president-elect."
I beg to differ, and couched in the beg is my complaint that wiki says of itself that it is not reliable:
Wiki is a collection of self-appointed editors, on whom we trust to do necessary research, and their commentary in the first eiki citation above indicates just how poorly they do that job, because the answer to their question, "there is no indication..." happens to be in the Constitution, Article II, Section 1, clause 3 [Amended by the 12A]: "The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates [from the previously mentioned vote of the Electoral College], and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President [when he is later inaugurated the following January, and until then, he IS the President-Elect, officially declared by the President of the Senate who is the current Vice President], if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed..." That happens after the Electoral College vote, which is established by law to be the first Monday after the second Wednesday of December of a presidential election year.
If I can do that research, and figure to begin with the Constitution rather than a collection news articles, why can't wiki? Because it's not reliable, and says so, that's why.
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@Stephen
You call me rude. That's why you're blocked, my friend. Have a civil tongue. Your thread is in a free country on a free site. Have some respect; I'll unblock
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Although panned as a "slip of the tongue," by forgiving media outlets, such as Reuters n Oct 29, there is no doubt to the clarity of Joe Biden's words on video a day or two earlier, saying, "We have put together the most, I think, extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." Reuters explained that the comment was in context with talking about a "voter protection program" in his campaign, but, as usual, reader Joe messed up, again, because although the teleprompter can tell him what to say, it cannot say it for him. Y'all Democrats keep excusing him his gaffes, but y'all complain when Trump has apparent gaffes when speaking about Russia, Putin, or Noko and Rocketman, but you excuse Biden? Why? You count the incidents of gaffes between Biden and Trump, Biden wins, going away, with the length and breadth of them, even in talking about himself, such as claiming that he ran for the Senate, and that he would beat Joe Biden, his hairy legs, and kids rubbing them, confusing his wife with his sister, forgetting the pledge of allegiance, "the thing," [he meant God], the other thing [he meant liberty], and on, and on... Too many slips of that wagging, octogenarian tongue for anyone's comfort.
IF Joe Biden is going to be the Electoral College pick, who will be the President, because it isn't going to be Joe?
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The media is reporting on an incomplete count ands projecting. And doing it poorly. That's no deflection. And we're done. I cease argument with a stuck mudded stick.
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@Mall
You ask what your lack of structure is:
Here's an example of a recent debate you instigated. From your Description [proposal]"
Disclaimer : Regardless of the setup for voting win or lose, The aim of this interaction, Is for those that view it, Learn and or take away anything that will amount to any constructive value ultimately. So that counts as anything that'll cause one to reconsider an idea, Understand a subject better, Help build a greater wealth of knowledge getting closer to truth. When either of us has accomplished that with any individual here, That's who the victor of the debate becomes.
Please provide a proposed solution to "racism". What is your method, code, idea, formula, whatever, that will help replace or eliminate all "racism" so that everyone will receive the proper treatment not involving "racial" discrimination?
How would you work or have others work as proposed to improve "race relations"?
Now be it that it's a proposal, you can't prove your method will work. But you do have to prove it is the best method yet, possibly ever thought up.
If the deductive reasoning is there to stand tenable with your concept , I'll stand to concede that. If I am able to undermine what's said on the basis of invalid points, you can come back to try again in another challenge.
For questions , please comment /send a message.
You have offered absolutely no "solution to 'racism'" that is YOUR solution. When instigating a debate yours is the first task to lay out a position you support, and against which you ask a contender to oppose. You're not asking for a debate, you're asking for the skeletal structure of an essay or white paper you're needing to compose. No. Take a stand, and put it out there. Claim it and defend it. Rebut your opponent's argument. And stop using your Description as your first round. Your Description does nothing, and offers nothing to rebut. As a result, your opponent generally takes the upper hand in the debate in your effort to see what your opponent will argue before giving your own argument. Thereby, you "lead from behind," which is not leadership at all. It was a pathetic strategy for Oba'a, will be for Biden if he is elected, and no better for you.
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@Danielle
Projections are probabilities, and probabilities depend on margins of error. Most media outlets use pathetic margins of error, mostly depending on MoEs of greater than ±3%, generally closer to ±4%, or more which allows for no better than a 95% confidence level, and often less; not 99%. At 99% confidence, your MoE must be a maximum ±2%, and there is not one media outlet sponsoring surveys who will attempt that level of confidence by MoE. Not a single one. I happen to be a Six Sigma Black Belt. Look it up.
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@Intelligence_06
The question appears to be asking for redundancy. Not to mention that the question's syntax violates the dangling preposition rule. The right question: "What is this question?"
Questions, by default, ask something. We don't need to be hit over the head with the purpose of interrogatives.
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@Theweakeredge
What's been called, and by whom? Last I checked, the MSM does not declare the President-Elect; theirs is just opinion, too. In this multi-media age, and your youth, you forget the old b&w photo of Truman holding a newspaper headline in Nov. 1948: "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN"
Only he didn't. Truman defeated Dewey. That's media for you. They've learned nothing in 72 years.
Take a guess what happens next? You're still with Hillaryous Balloon Girl trying to figure out what happened. What happens next?
On the second Tuesday of December [the 8th, this year]: States' last day to submit their certified election results. [FL failed to do that in 2000]
On the first Monday after the second Wednesday of December [the 14th this year]: Electoral College votes. Then you know what happened, just like Hillaryous found out. [but still wondered what happened in 2016.]
That's the law, unless the Democrats want to try to undermine that one, as well, like they've tried for the last 40 years to amend the Constitution [that's what has to happen] to eliminate the Electoral College.
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@Danielle
Who's deflecting? Who? We will not know if it's false until after the Electoral College votes. Get it? Meantime, Both sides claim victory. Are you ereally so bothered by that? relax, your vote was counted. Mine, too. Now, it's up to others.
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@Danielle
And Biden said, "I am running for the U.S. Senate." Do you believe him? I do. He said it at least twice in this campaign, alone. What a maroon.
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@Theweakeredge
A superb start. Well done, Edge
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@Danielle
Because he IS the President, and he DOES have an office.
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@lady3keys
Apparent win? What's the "Office of the President-Elect" bit? A bit over the top if you ask me. You didn't, so I ereminded all of you. Your hero is polishing his nails. And he's still just hairy. And creepy about it. What? Can't take a little ribbing about it? Trump has endured quirte ewnough for every President who ever served. Excuse me if payback is warranted.
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@Theweakeredge
You mean, do all your research for you? Nope. I'm not your tutor. Maybe when you start crossing my palm with some green. What, this is your idea of free college? Sorry. Do it yourself.
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Biden's Covid-19 plan was difficult to understand until I actually put it together. We see lots of images of Biden taking off his mask to speak at his totus platform, but very few of him putting the mask on. The few I see tell you his Covid plan. When Biden puts on his black mask, he ends up covering his eyes. That's the Biden plan, in a nutshell. In a blind. Literally. That's his plan. Don't look. Don't know. Don't act. That wasn't so hard, was it?
Sounds just like the Biden I've known so well.
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@Theweakeredge
Been a few years away from homework, but I still hit the books with relish. So much to learn and so little time - I'm seeing the wall in the distance and its approaching too fast and I will not survive the impact!
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I had occasion to be in Monaco a few years ago, and attended the Grand Prix. Had not been there since '69, but it was as exciting lately as it was 50 years ago. To me, not ruined at all, and better than any Super Bowl. But then, I've driven my Porsche at 150 mph down an empty stretch of highway between Santa Cruz and Monterey, but I've never been on the field at Super Bowl.
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If y'all are concerned about speed, why don't you re-arrange the keyboard, because the QWERTY arrangement was always meant to slow down typing to avoid typewriter key rods from tangling, but it is far from the most efficient layout for speed. You'd only know that if you used a typewriter, but I wonder how many of you even have one, let alone seen one. The keyboard is an anachronism if ever there was one. But, you have the same argument of tradition that stopped the U.S from converting to metric in the 60s. It was a very practical change, but we were to stuck in traditional mud to pull the stick out of it. You have the same mud and stick with the keyboard.
That said, speed is not my aim, and I'm not very fast, but I get it done, anyway. My wife's sister can type 140 wpm without error, but she can't put two original words together, and admits it. So, what's the real goal?
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@K_Michael
Your theory has a fly in the soup. Considering all of the world's types of landmass [urban, arable, agricultural, forest, mountainous, desert, arctic, and if you restricted the current world population to living just on arable and agricultural land, and all other types were uninhabited, there would still be sufficient land to accommodate every man, woman and child with over one acre of land. That's not practical as an actual exercise, but it goes to show that there is enough and to spare of Earth's resources to accommodate all of us without decreasing our population. We can solve food shortages/distribution by correcting the latter of that combined problem. Sufficient food is not the problem, but our poor distribution of it is. Sufficient land is not a problem; our poor distribution of its uses is the problem. Poverty isn't the problem, but the lack of ambition, planning, and execution is is. Unemployment isn't the problem, but lack of the same principles solving poverty is. Why isn't there, yet, an aqueduct from the confluence of the Missouri and the Mississippi directed to the Southwest? That would provide water to that arid region, and solve the problem of repeated flooding further downstream. Distribution. Why don't we build cheap desalinization plants along our ocean shores, It's a easy as collecting condensation from trapped evaporation. Not a costly process. But we don't.
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@Theweakeredge
It's a conundrum, isn't it? Now you complain? The point is, y'all believe it, so why am I denied?
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Joe Biden is not the President-Elect. Sure, the media has given that crown, but it's paper and gold paint. It's not even as official as the Burger King crown. Joe Biden stands before a background blazoned with "Office of the President-Elect," complete with seal, but there is no such office. It's a charade. It's sleight-of-hand. There is no President-Elect by popular vote, and there never has been since Geo Washington. The Constitution says otherwise. Title3 U.S.C. §7 says otherwise. The Electoral College meets on the Monday following the second Wednesday of December, the 14th, by which time, the 8th, the States have ALL submitted their certified election results. Media be damned, only then is the President-Elect designated. Just because we now have a minute-by-minute news cycle, we didn't with Washington's first election of 1793, and it makes no bloody difference now. Anything else is blowing up a wish balloon. Save your breath.
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@Theweakeredge
responding to your #15:
Progressive contradictions:
You claim net zero emissions, yet every green energy turbine in the world [ wind, tidal, hydro, geo-thermal, and even nuclear [quasi-green] use petroleum as a lubricant, because you don’t have AlGoreGooeyJuice. Why not?
You claim we should not eat beef because of cow flatulence [methane], but encourage rice production even though cultivated and natural wetlands, rivers, lakes, and oceans emit more methane collectively than do cows, because all living things emit methane.
You claim anthropogenic climate change is the worst contributor to climate change even though the climate saw more severe climate shifts prior to the advent of man in Earth’s biosphere.
You claim socialism is the best economic model, although it has an average 40-year life cycle, and has never achieved more than a 100-year cycle [USSR leads at 75 years], yet make use of capitalism as practiced in the U.S., now in its 233rdyear, counted from the inception of the Constitution, and over 400 years since the beginning throes of colonization.
You claim abortion is an effective preventative of pregnancy, yet abortion, in 47% of cases, represents abortion as a second choice, after that percentage of contraceptive failure, and there is a 13% failure of abortion success in eleven years by resulting live births, when abstinence, when practiced successfully, is 100% effective.
You claim net zero emissions, yet every green energy turbine in the world [ wind, tidal, hydro, geo-thermal, and even nuclear [quasi-green] use petroleum as a lubricant, because you don’t have AlGoreGooeyJuice. Why not?
You claim we should not eat beef because of cow flatulence [methane], but encourage rice production even though cultivated and natural wetlands, rivers, lakes, and oceans emit more methane collectively than do cows, because all living things emit methane.
You claim anthropogenic climate change is the worst contributor to climate change even though the climate saw more severe climate shifts prior to the advent of man in Earth’s biosphere.
You claim socialism is the best economic model, although it has an average 40-year life cycle, and has never achieved more than a 100-year cycle [USSR leads at 75 years], yet make use of capitalism as practiced in the U.S., now in its 233rdyear, counted from the inception of the Constitution, and over 400 years since the beginning throes of colonization.
You claim abortion is an effective preventative of pregnancy, yet abortion, in 47% of cases, represents abortion as a second choice, after that percentage of contraceptive failure, and there is a 13% failure of abortion success in eleven years by resulting live births, when abstinence, when practiced successfully, is 100% effective.
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@Theweakeredge
imagine "alien" [Sigourney Weaver's nemesis] with wings
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@zedvictor4
Curious it's only progs who see the carrot when it was Hillarous Balloon Girl who wore more orange than Trump ever does. Y'all seem to have a color distinction issue. Not surprised. Biden also has a problem distinguishing what black is, let alone orange. Can't seem to find his way around the spectrum of visible light.
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@Theweakeredge
I'm working on a new logo for them. It's one of the things I do.
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@Theweakeredge
There cannot be a balance of capitalism and socialism; they seek entirely separate objectives, one a construct of private industry, the other a construct of government ownership of industry. One problem with government involvement is that government types know little about successful operation of private industry, and generally seek to control it, budget it, and ultimately manage and own it. That has never worked successfully in thousands of years of attempt of like systems. The modern Marxist socialism has never survived even 100 years [the record is USSR, with 70+ years before collapse. The average is 40 years. By contrast, capitalism promotes the individual and that individual's personal ambition to succeed. He does, and they do because, contrary to misguided belief, like Oba'a, there is not ceiling to the money supply.
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@Theweakeredge
By "dying out," I was meaning liberals, let alone moderates, neither of whom are Progressive. The latter is a different breed of Democrat, which, as you say, are climbing. But I don't find a single tenet of Progressive ideology that does not have its antithesis in another Progressive tenet. A sack of contradictions.
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@Theweakeredge
Privacy is such an overused mantra. It's a silly argument when one can be perfectly safe in a crowd away from home, and at risk in one's own home from others in the home who may have nefarious intent. I do not believe the term, privacy, to be the equivalent of "secure in their persons" by any stretch because of the above conditions. It's a wish balloon. Had Madison wanted the intent of privacy, he's have said it, just like if the 1A intended to say, "separation of church and state," he'd have said that, too. He was, after all, a good friend of Tommy Jefferson.
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@SirAnonymous
Oh, that's a treat you've got to try. I own a freeze dryer and have done several batches. Very hard, as a sweet treat, to beat. In fact, if you've never tried freeze dry, you'd be amazed how much just water dilutes taste. Everything is so good, I don't think I'd ever reconstitute with water; I just eat as is. Also, makes for a very small volume for a food storage medium, and if sealed properly, stays good fr at least 25 years.
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@Theweakeredge
You're a young guy. Kind of jealous, actually, but I had mine and wouldn't trade any of it, so I guess it's just that I can't do things I used to do. Tried to skip down the three steps from my front porch to the walkway below, and with the first step, prayed mightily that I'd land on my feet. See, there is a God.
Anyway, what's your thing career-wise?
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@SirAnonymous
What's your thang with pineapple? Ever had freeze dried pineapple? or a freeze dried pizza? With pineapple?
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@BearMan
I'd have smashed that little button but for the pineapple thing. Them's fighting words. Good thing I'm no fighter. May even smash the button anyway. I only eat pizza once a month, but I make it, and haven't put pineapple on one for months, so it's no big thang
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Y'all can relax; both camps.
11/23: all counties must have their ballot certifications into their respective State Election Board. Also last day to file any petition to challenge election results.
12/08: All states must resolve all election controversies.
12/14: Electoral College votes
So, no official election results for another 35 days. Everybody can hold your tongue until then. Try
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@Danielle
But who says we must start reckoning from the Reagan admin? I suppose it depends on personal age and perspective, and since I was born during Truman's admin, that is often my perspective. Sorry, that's just the way it is. You are probably much younger, though I note that your entire profile is "unknown?" Afraid of putting yourself out there?Nevertheless, if you look at the entire history, the mean waxes and wanes, so when you arbitrarily target a random range, it has built-in bias. That is why I don't even start with Truman in this regard, but the entire history of the Court. We couold aregue the point of what's a good range, but why bother? Since the net result is that ACB has been confirmed, isn't it a dead horse?
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@RationalMadman
the mirror is your friend. Still votes to count. Too close to call, I believe is the mantrra
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