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@3RU7AL
I see, so now you're just making stuff up out of thin air?Or perhaps you've heard the voice of "YHWH" in your ear?
You really think I have to take thin air and produce holy writ for you? The pyramid Texts, The Book of the Dead, Book of Gates, Litany of Re [I’ve read these], Epic of Gilgamesh, Homeric Hymes, Theogony, Hermetica, The Five Classics, Tao Te Ching, The Yasna, Q-ran, Torah, The Book of Mormon, The Pearl of Great Price, Doctrine & Covenants [I’ve read these, too], The Lotus Sutra, The Four Vedas, [I’ve read from these, but not completely], and myriad others, which I have not yet read.
Why do I need to invent? I've heard no voices in my ear. However, fictitious characters I've created in novels have come to me in dreams; some with remarkably spiritual advice, like: "Know who you are, know what you believe, and know what affect your beliefs and actions will have on others." Very good advice I consider direct from holy sources. Mazke stuff up, indeed!
Why do I need to invent? I've heard no voices in my ear. However, fictitious characters I've created in novels have come to me in dreams; some with remarkably spiritual advice, like: "Know who you are, know what you believe, and know what affect your beliefs and actions will have on others." Very good advice I consider direct from holy sources. Mazke stuff up, indeed!
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@3RU7AL
That's the very definition of "predestination".
How is it predestination if God does nothing about it? My free will is untouched, and my going to hell is entirely on me should I choose repeatedly to ignore God. That God knows that may be the consequence just says He knows my heart, but will not force my feet on any path.
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@Greyparrot
That's better, but again, does congressional reform need a constitutional amendment, and support of just that that unique, and probably fruitless effort? I don't. I believe, in a sense, the founders knew that Congress would be contentious. It is, after all, now a body of 535 people. Never in history has that many people been of one mind. That's democracy for you. It isn't easy, but it's worth it.
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@3RU7AL
For example, do you, personally believe GOD($) knows I'm "going to hell"?Do you, personally, believe GOD($) knew I was going to "go to hell" before I was born?Do you, personally, believe GOD($) knew I was going to "go to hell" before Adam was created?
Yes, I do. What I don't believe is that you know if you're going to Hell, or that you can change your mind. God knows you better than you do, and does so without adding ciphers to His title. That is a title, not a name.
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@3RU7AL
just because a child can choke themselves to death (on the toy you provided) doesn't mean they will (does this "doubt" immunize you from murder and or criminal negligence charges)?
Now you've altered the subject of discussion. Subject change from God to a child, as if they are equivalent subjects of the matter. Nope. Try again. And the fact is, just because a child may burn a finger on the stove burner, does not mean that child will. I never burned my finger on a match until I was a teen, and I did that to gage what Peter O'Toole felt when he did put out a match pinching it between his fingers to make his point, "The secret is not minding," in "Lawrence of Arabia." What did "not minding" mean? I found out that it's possible.
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@3RU7AL
you're ignoring GOD($) OMNISCIENCE.
I am? Am I the one limiting God's power? See my #62. Seems you the one imposing limitations. According to the OED: Omniscience: "As an attribute of God, or of a person: the fact, state, or quality of having infinite knowledge." Infinite is not a point with an attached ray in one direction, as most of you interpret "eternity." Nope. It's not even just a linear, single line, because that limits dimension of knowledge, and everything else. But, again, just because one has omnipotence and omniscience is one compelled to always use them? No. Not even God. I'll grant that He takes a moment here and there to stop and smell the roses. Sorry about your version.
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where is this "mantra" in the bible?
Must it be in the Bible? Richard Back once said, "The greatest sin is to limit the Is. Don't." "The "Is" being Bach's name for God." Therefore, do not limit God to just what is contained in the Bible. I do not believe for a minute that God restricts His communication to man to the Bible. That would be an admission that He spoke once upon a time, but does no longer. That's limiting God. Take Bach's advice.
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@FLRW
I suppose you have a citational evidence of that discussion. Provide, please.
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@Greyparrot
Seeing as how this is a government of separation of powers, I submit that the President, regardless of who occupies the Oval, has not the constitution power, nor mandate to reform Congress, which would require a constitutional amendment, but that's not the solution, either. Nor is term limits. Already, the entire government wholly turns itself over on average in less than eleven years. That physician must heal itself.
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@dustryder
Trump's callous attitude
Trump shutdown travel from China and Europe within 10 days of the first US virus case.
Trump encouraged response from private industry to manufacture ventilators, masks, and protection for front-line health workers.
Trump initiated daily update news conferences to keep us informed.
Trump distributed a four-phase attack and recovery stategy
Trump accelerated the effort to achieve a vaccine in record time.
Trump provided emergency tents for Covid treatment.
Trump dispatched two retrofitted hospital ships to NYC and LA.
Callous? I think the callouses cover your eyes and ears. Wake up.
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@3RU7AL
You have ENTIRELY missed my point. Adding ciphers to God neither enhances not diminishes his existence. If you carefully observe the dialogue between Adam, Eve, and God in the Garden, you will understand that dominion of the earth was given to Adam and Eve, and their posterity - us - to use wisely and effectively, or not. You ignore my commentary: just because you can does not mean you will. That is God's mantra. That is free agency. We are not driven to a predestined conclusion; it is by our choice we walk the road, or sit beside it watching the parade, or, in fact, turn around and re-seek the Garden, as if, once leaving it, it was always our intention to return to that innocent ignorance. We aere attracted to it because we have no idea of the glory that is ahead, but it will not be achieved by sitting on the gutter, watching the parade.
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What a genius Joe Biden is in foreign policy to have engineered this expanding peace agreements between various countries and Israel to the point of agreement, one after the other, for creating diplomatic relations. In some cases, they have never existed before. Not to mention the brilliant stroke of recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's true capital, keeping the decades-old promise to locate the US embassy there. Yes. Biden is a brilliant man.
Oh, wait. I err. These are not accomplishments of the Oba'a/Biden administration, are they. Much like their sloth economy, slouching more slowly than any other repression in history, this growing peace was not of their doing. The Arab spring resulted in a different outcome. This is Trump's doing. This is his sleight of hand; the gestures he is known for during his entire adult life. This is not merely the gesture of a President, but a brilliant business mind that accepts that business should cunduct across across all boundaries; not just with those who express their affection for the USA.
Joe Biden is not, and will not be that genius. That ability is not expressed merely by an election. No. That brilliance is not the result of acclaim by the people, but by personal ambition, planning, and execution. Skills Biden lacks in spades.
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Yes, Biden lied repeatedly about never saying anything about blacks being predators [he did on the Senate floor in 1994 while lobbying for the Crime Bill], about never advocating getting rid of fracking [he told a young woman during a primary rally in Sept 2019 to "look in my eyes," followed by his commitment to eliminate fracking], and about his son never doing anything wrong in business deals while Biden was VP [he used to deny any business deals were ever made, but had changed his tune]. But the line that sold me that Biden is all wrong for America is his response to Trump, who said, "We must learn to live with the virus." Biden replied, "No, we must learn to die with it." Foot-in-mouth, and may-I-have-another all wrapped into a single comment. Real confidence building, too. Tell me how you do not panic when told we must learn to die. This guy hasn't a clue about what controversies spill from his mouth. The man was trounced tonight. Trump, once again, was in a 2-on-1. The moderator interrupted Trump at east 24 times, interrupted Biden twice. Trump wiped the stage with her, too. So where is Joe tomorrow. Back to lids by 10am? Back to the basement? This is going to get old real quick for Oba'a.
By the way, let's remember a famous quote from Biden in H1N1 days [or N1H1 if you're Biden]: You can do everything right and still be 30% wrong." Then everything wasn't right, was it? Can't prove it to Biden; his paranoid dyslexic tongue is alive and well
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@Theweakeredge
And you have just fallen into the trap into which I warned you people fall when they cherrypick a verse. You have to look at context. In the case of Romans 3: 23, you must read the follow-up in 24, 25, 26, at least, which stipulates that by the atonement of Christ, and man’s pursuit of redemption, they are justified, and can progress.
For Romans 3: 10, I give you the same resolution.
Mark 10: 18: You have just read through a number of potential sins man falls into, culminating with verse 13. Then, the resolution, from 14 onward: “Suffer the little children to come unto me, for such is the Kingdom of God.” We must become innocent, through recognition of Christ, and his atonement. We must repent, and be forgiven, such that we can, ultimately, achieve the challenge of perfection as given in Matthew 5: 48. Don’t get me wrong, I’m nowhere near perfect, but that is my goal.
Do not cherrypick verses. I once met a woman whose Bible seemed very thin for what I was used to. Looking through it, I noted many pages torn from it. Asking why that was so, she said, “I remove anything I don’t understand.” Nice method, I suppose, if your goal is to have only that which you understand, or agree to, but that not the purpose of the scriptures. We study until we understand. We do not treat it like a cafeteria. Do not cherrypick, and you’ll find that it al actually has relevance
For Romans 3: 10, I give you the same resolution.
Mark 10: 18: You have just read through a number of potential sins man falls into, culminating with verse 13. Then, the resolution, from 14 onward: “Suffer the little children to come unto me, for such is the Kingdom of God.” We must become innocent, through recognition of Christ, and his atonement. We must repent, and be forgiven, such that we can, ultimately, achieve the challenge of perfection as given in Matthew 5: 48. Don’t get me wrong, I’m nowhere near perfect, but that is my goal.
Do not cherrypick verses. I once met a woman whose Bible seemed very thin for what I was used to. Looking through it, I noted many pages torn from it. Asking why that was so, she said, “I remove anything I don’t understand.” Nice method, I suppose, if your goal is to have only that which you understand, or agree to, but that not the purpose of the scriptures. We study until we understand. We do not treat it like a cafeteria. Do not cherrypick, and you’ll find that it al actually has relevance
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@Danielle
You may think that Biden's Senate voting record on taxing is a dumb argument ["the dumbest"], but, you should acknowledge the facts and the truth [both, since Hidin' Biden seems to think they are different concepts]. So, the facts and the truth: over just the last ten years of his 36-year Senate career [frankly, I tired of looking further because his voting record on tax bills is sufficient for just 1/3 of his career], he voted on a total of 24 separate tax bills. I'd say that meets the claim I originally made: "Biden did have much to do with making them [tax loopholes] being in the Senate for nearly 40 years." Seems someone is saying "Joe Biden has been in Congress for a long time; therefore, is responsible for everything that is wrong with government," but I didn't say that, did I? Did I say tax loopholes aere what is wrong with government? No. I've just quoted what I said. In fact, you said it, didn't you? Argue for your limitations; they're yours.
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@Greyparrot
All of which is currently legal. As Trump said, he didn't make the loopholes, and Biden did have much to do with making them being the Senate for nearly 40 years, and the irony is telling. Trump is not obligated to avoid them, much as Biden, and the rest of never-Trumpers may wish. Not to mention that we will find that Biden uses them, too. Oops
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@3RU7AL
No, omnipotence and omniscience also allows for restraint. Simple rule: just because you can does not mean you will. Applies to gods, as well. It's called free agency. Why would God give it to us, and not use it? No reason. Look, how successful is a parent who does everything for a child? That's not parenting, that's jealousy.
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@Greyparrot
I wonder what the hell Trumpy meant when he used the word "Segments"
Listen to what Trump said. Some, but not all. He cited Pew Research: 25% of Muslims in this country seek jihad against Americans, thinking it justified. That's some, but not all. Just as the travel ban was not focused on al Muslims, just countries that would not participate with US in betting their citizens a a condition of their earning a visa. But none of those countries that were banned are 100% Muslim. Thereforew, the ban did not target all Muslims. Some, but not all. Get it?
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@3RU7AL
95% accuracy is a minimum. The expectation of six sigma is 99.7%.
A Calvinist? No. I am far from a belief of predestination. That belief ignores free agency, which is at the core of my beliefs. I determine my destiny. I am the captain of my ship. God serves a role as navigator, but mine is the responsibility of the helm. While I believe God knows all things, including my heart, and whether or not I will abide by His commands, He still allows my agency to choose whether I will be obedient, or not, but He does nothing to force my hand. It is all my choice, and my mistakes to make, and my work to do. Salvation is not the goal; exaltation is. I am LDS.
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their own holy book says it's impossible.
You're going to have to cite that claim, because I've read it in four different languages, and find no statement of that conclusion. In fact, just the opposite. Matthew 5: 48, at the conclusion of the first chapter of the Sermon on the Mount [therefore, not a single verse, as alleged scriptorians are wont to do] but the context of a complete chapter [and the context continues for another two chapters], we find, "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect." That's a command to be perfect. Period. full stop.
A minimum wage that's above the poverty line
You do know, don't you, that the Fair Labor Act of 1938, which first offered a minimum wage, never said a minimum wage was expected to provide an income that would sustain more than one person, and that, from when it started, until today, allowing for inflation from then to now, that min wage would not be anywhere near $15/hour, which is well above the current poverty line for an individual [$400/week]. But I wonder why your goal is so low when there is truly no ceiling for the money supply. All you require is ambition, planning, and execution, none of which are entitlements. But the first is usually the piece most difficult to acquire if not had. Get that, and a lot of problems are solved.
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@Theweakeredge
Honest question, considering you and I sit at opposing poles politically. Is your aim of equality one of opportunity, or outcome, or both? I really would like to know. I'll tell you my position: equality of opportunity is the only guarantee a democracy can offer. To guarantee equality of outcome is to assure that individual ambition is defeated. Not my idea of a beneficial political position.
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@oromagi
so would I, but I've imposed a personal hiatus from debate for a while until I have a sense that I have just one opponent in any given debate.
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@lady3keys
If you can do it, it ain't bragging. If you can't, you complain. Sorry, I prefer my side of that argument.
By the way, know that I am critical of anyone whose profile is "unknown." Kind of negates every argument, because no one knows from whence you come. Food for thought.
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@lady3keys
he just didn't want to give the White House access to his taxes,
Show me the statute requiring a presidential candidate to release tax returns. It is merely tradition, but traditions are not requirements. TILT.
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@lady3keys
ABSOLUTE POWER;
If Trump wants absolute power, he's picked the wrong country. The President does not have absolute power. That's sarcasm, you're hearing, again, which completely flies over your head. Your problem is you seriously believe everything out of his mouth. He's a teaser. He's a bully. He has plenty of people who have him so deeply embedded in their heads, rent-free, that they even use his name as an avatar, thinking it is mocking him. Trump is not mocked; he's amused. Laughing his head off. First thing to understand about an enemy is to know how he thinks. Sun Tsu. He's a good education, and Trump has been educated. Progs are suckered by him. That's all on them.
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@lady3keys
An unabashed GREED for MONEY
You have that 100% wrong. Donald Trump has repeatedly said he doesn't do what he does for the money, or he wouldn't be turning down his presidential salary. He has also repeatedly said that money is not the motivation; it's merely a by product. Know that I know what he's talking about, because I've been doing what I do for forty years, and let's just say I don't have to work anymore; I couldn't spend it all in the time I've left, but I do work. I enjoy what I do. That I am paid for it, is just a by-product. Meanwhile, my money works for me, too. Meanwhile, your party is pushing min wage. Why have such a low goal? There's no ceiling on the money supply, regardless of what Oba'a told you. He's wrong.
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The best Biden video that exists is the one in which he says, "I will beat Joe Biden." I have analyzed the audio [I have the eqpt because one of my freelance contracts is doing voiceovers], and I can do detailed analysis of vocal production, and there is, in slo-mo, a definitive 't' on the end of "bea...", by exacting voiceprint trace, whereas the media immediately went into apology mode for Hidin Biden' claiming he said "I will be Joe Biden." They ignore that such apology is even worse. "I will be Joe Biden?" It is what prompted me to ask, with no valid response, "Who will be President if Joe Biden is elected, since he is not now Joe Biden, according to MSM.
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@lady3keys
Problem is, you don't see sarcasm when it's clearly the employed tactic. Trump understand sarcasm, and uses it. It's just that the media doesn't get it. Educationally deficient. A free press was never meant to be a cheerleading squad, but they are. Even WoodStein are senile, now. Not surprised you don't get it, either.
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@lady3keys
you ALWAYS "parrot" him
That's very funny, coming from you. Familiarity breeds contempt.
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@lady3keys
without criticizing a person's ability to have an original thought.
If only you presented one in your tirade.
Further, please tell me why Hidin' Biden is, in fact, hiding - five days straight, now, from any appearance where he might be asked about Punter's laptop and emails, noe of which Biden has flatly denied. He hides behind accusation of a smear campaign. Curious that, in spite of his claim to have never discussed Punter's business deals, Hidin' Biden is pictured with Punter and one of those Ukrainian oligarchs. What were they discussing? Grandchildren?
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@Danielle
When Trump campaigned for President, he explicitly asked for a Muslim ban
Wrong. What Trump asked for was a travel ban against six countries, none of which are 100% Muslims. He targeted those countries because they would not participate in vetting their own citizens who demonstrated excessive disregard for US policy. It was a nation ban, not a religious discrimination. Get your facts straight.
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@zedvictor4
Society is a collective only because it numbers more than one individual, but they are still individuals with all the rights and advantages offered to individuals to either excel, or be sticks in mud. Their choice. There are too many examples of individuals who have decided to ignore all the obstacles against them, and succeed. I am one of them, so I know I'm not just talking through my hat, repeating wishful thoughts proceeded by "if only." I sent "if only" packing forty years ago. We can do it because money is not a collective. It is the by-product of ambition, planing, and execution that everyone who leads a successful life does in spades. They can do it because Oba'a was dead wrong, always has been, and ever will be as long as he believes "there comes a time when you have made enough money." No, the money supply has no ceiling. Period, the end.
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@lady3keys
Thank you, lady3keys, for repeating the mantra of others’ talking points, without a single original thought. Try it, sometime. I know you will not.
America alone
Curious that your first point is actually a mantra of a conservative, Mark Steyn, from his 2006 published non-fiction of the same title, but expressing the regret of the unification of Europe and Asia, as if that world knows democracy better than do we. Not so, Steyn alleges, but one would have to read the volume, and you have not. Meanwhile, if our “European” allies have truly abandoned us, we must no longer have NATO, and they are not paying more for it than they ever have. Is that the case? “All our allies” is an obvious oversimplification.
Deference to NoKo and Russia, Russia, Russia
That mantra has been debunked. Whikle Trump is the first President, including Truman, to have a face-to-face with NoKo, ever, and we are not at war with NoKo, as Hillaryous Balloon Girl alleged in 2016, before Trump ever met with NoKo rocketman, I’d say that mantra is debunked. Trump has repeatedly said that while he is President, we will not be a socialist country, which does not sound like a Putin-puppet to me. That you still claim it is signal tast you have never understood that the mantra is a creation, nay, a strategy employed by the Left. Get it?
Withdrew from Paris Accord, and Iran Nuclear Deal.
All the Paris Accord did was impose a tax on America to clean the clouds. It’s an indulgence as useless as the 14thCentury Catholic Church money-for-sins routine. Haven’t learned much from history, have you? Same with the IND, a tax to Iran that, within its words of the deal, allowed Iran to nuclearize, and they have been. It gave them ten years to delay their plans, and they have violate3d that and proceeded with their nuclear plans before the ink was dry. Some deal your Vietnam hero made.
Eliminate the ACA…
You ignore that the plan has always been to replace it it with a better, less expensive plan. McCain managed to screw that up, being a prog like the rest of you. Forget? I thought so. No prog has a memory lasting longer than the distance between a fly’s ears.
There is similar commentary for the rest, but, why bother? As Biden is, so are his fans; numbered with one hand. He waves, after all, to empty fields. Notice the cameras on the hoards attending Trump rallies? Explain that.
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@Greyparrot
I'd say better an orange clown than a blithering idiot who cannot remember which office he is running for, let alone in which branch of government, cannot remember where he is, and cannot recite the pledge of allegiance from memory. I noticed you did not reply to a question I posed in late spring: If Joe Biden is elected, who will be the President, because it is not going to be Joe Biden. So, who are you voting for? I at least know who it is I'm voting for. By name.
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@RationalMadman
I did intend to sell within a couple of years, anyway, but I decided soon after Covid hit, but more after Seattle and Portland blew up that CA, where I lived growing up until I was 19, and again between 1970s to 90s, when I purchased the home, that CA property values might not sustain, so I accelerated my plans. My daughter still lives and raising a family in San Diego, so I still have ties, but I'm glad I unloaded the house. The renter has been begging to buy it for about ten years. Since I owned the deed on it, it was virtually all profit. I've re-invested with almost tax-free consequences
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Three months ago, I finally caved and allowed my renter in Silicon Valley to purchase my rental home, making a substantial profit. Since then, the value of the property has dropped due to the exodus from CA. Count me lucky and happy to have made the best decision at exactly the right time. Considering I'm probably within 15 years of cashing my chips, my daughter is very happy, too.
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@HistoryBuff
I believe I have answered your question in your #15 in my #16.
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@HistoryBuff
They can refuse service based on what you are, or are not, wearing.
No, you misinterpret what I said. I said a business can try to refuse service. That's not the same thing as having a carte blanche right to refuse service. That there are no current statutes addressing the issue does not mean that a business may consider they have carte blanche. A customer may file suit, believing their rights have been violated, such as a guy tossed off a commercial airline, for wearing a MAGA hat. The court can either decide against him, or for him. The law does not currently address every single possible situation, but, case by case, the law, either by statute or precedent, is slowing filling the gaps.
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@HistoryBuff
the reason you cannot refuse service because of race is the Federal Civil Rights Act of 1964.
But the reason and basis of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is due to the second clause of the 13A: "Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation," and section 1 of the 14A: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Know your history, Buff.
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@FLRW
Sure, but is it reasonable to assume that the age of massive vulcanism is passed? I live within the sure kill zone of the Yellowstone caldera, and it is overdue. So says the science.
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@zedvictor4
Therefore, though dislikes, the consequences of taxation can be societally beneficial; even vital. Without loopholes, a flat tax considers only that a person has an income, but the tax rate is not linked to volume of that income, whereas the flat tax considers that an employed person, regardless of the volume, is able to pay an evenly apportioned percentage across all incomes, and that is basically true, if one also considers that like my claim against government, individuals must also self-impose a budget against which their income [revenue] is applied. If we do not consider that our expenditures must be held within our revenue, we're as at fault as the government is for excessive spending. The fact is, we do not need a boat; we want a boat. But if the boat is an excessive expenditure that breaks the budget, that is not a rational purchase. Same goes for a flatscreen, a new laptop, or a car. We are enttled to nine of those things, and we must stop thinking we are, and insist the government do likewise.
The problem government has with a flat tax is that they consider that a billionaire can afford to pay a higher percentage of his income than can an hourly worker, and so they should pay more. The hourly worker may agree with that assessment, but how is that fair to the billionaire, who has likely spent more in an education, gathering abilities the dishwasher has not invested in. The billionaire has earned his right to consider the money supply as inexhaustible, and has earned the right and has invested the time and energy in going after some of it. What has the dishwasher sacrificed to do that?
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@Intelligence_06
Before Lincoln's emancipation [1863] and the 13A, 14A, and 15A [1865, 1868, and 1869, respectively] blacks were not considered whole person citizens. The "three-fifths" declaration thereby passed into history.
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@ILikePie5
You sure about that?
See my post #6 to buff.
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@dustryder
The"unreasonable searches and seizures" clause refers to the the listed "secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects," as being unsearchable and unseizable without a warrant, and no warrant will be issued without probable cause that items in those protected environments have involvement with a crime.
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@HistoryBuff
There three reasons a business serving the public can refuse service to a customer, but clothing that a business may find objectionable is not one of them. A business can refuse employees from wearing whatever, but, contrary to common public opinion, there are no federal or state statutes requiring "no shirts, no shoes, no service" for customers for health code reasons. They actually can require those restrictions [there is no statutory basis for the claim, but they can try - posting such a notice is not strictly illegal], but they cannot post that it is for health code reasons. Second, a business can turn out non-paying customers. Even in situations where people are browsing, such as excessive time reviewing a magazine rack. The business is in business for sales; it is not a library. Third, they can refuse service on their religious principles, such as refusing a wedding cake for a gay couple if the business owner is opposed to gay marriage. There are other shops not having that restriction, and the customer has the option choosing one of them.
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@secularmerlin
Again [ad nauseam], I did not deny it. I merely claim it is less of an effect than the whackos claim. It is not the only factor affecting climater change, but that is all to which your ilk point. Allow for other causes, please, some of which, when they occur, emit more issue than man could contribute in a thousand years, and more. Or are you into banning vulcanism? Let alone farting.
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I am bothered by the relevant rise is verbal ridicule to physical assault [the legal definition of same] as it regards the wearing of a hat by some citizens that happens to advertise the acronym, MAGA, or the name TRUMP, by supporters of the left who are offended by the wearing of this particular item of clothing, and seek to rid their confrontation with it. There are currently cases before courts of people assaulted for wearing such a hat, and beging removed from airliners for the same "offense." I quote the 4A: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated..."
"Secure in their persons" by at least Roe v. Wade [1973] is defined as "privacy," as well as Katz v. U.S. [1967]. The latter has also defined "effects" as "personal property," to be distinguished from "real property" [land, and anything constructed on it]. The presumption is that personal property has the right to be considered as protected by right of privacy. A hat is an item of personal property, and the fact that some hats contain discernible messaging such as "MAGA" and "TRUMP" fall under the protected class of both "effects" and "creed" [as in political preference, among other creeds].
Any questions?
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@secularmerlin
So, you claim beef production is a problem. Then, why not admit that rice production is problematic, too. It is, but you will never admit it. The fact is, rice paddies [cultivated wetlands] in combination with natural wetlands, rivers, lakes, and oceans emit more methane than do cows. Oops.
Bottom line: go ahead, eat your rice, but leave my steak alone. thanks.
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@3RU7AL
I've just figured out why your "logic" is so easy to unravel:
One of the fundamental problems I've identified is that most people tend to conflate the terms "real" and "important", when, in-fact, they are mutually exclusive.
And then you say:
It is important to maintain a constant awareness of and vigilant respect of our epistemological limits.
First, you claim importance and reality are mutually exclusive, then claim that one importance is that we'er aware of epistemological limits. Since importance, in your logic, is not real, nor are epistemological limits. In fact, though you are self-conflicted by your own statements, it is true that we have no limits to our ability to acquire infinite knowledge, other than by our own applied limitations. Argue for your own limits; they're yours.
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@Sum1hugme
My above post is mostly a refutation of 3RU7AL's #7. Further, free will is possible to be a factor of accurate probability because, even though we have free will, we are offered to ability to use it to its logical limits, unfettered, and yet, because God knows us so well, His ability to apply probability to how we will use our free will, He knows what we will do in a given situation even if we do not. Sometimes, we can guess what me might do in a given situation, and we may be mostly right, but not always. God, however, always knows what we will do. So, in the context that I believe we are here on Earth to be tested to see if we will keep God's commandments, He already knows. That we do not is the whole point. It is ours to learn what our probable outcome will be, then learn to adjust our free will to choose wisely more and more often than not.
So, while we may observe that God's approach is determinism, He is not living our lives for us, and therefore will let us determine our destinies by our choice by free will.
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