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The PRC has, for a second time within one year, performed badly in the international market, if not for infraction of human decency & rights. First for its lack of appropriate and timely action in the containment of the Covid-19 virus, and now with apparent forced labor, typically known as slavery, in the production of wigs using human hair released to the world market. It is not the issue that the wigs are of human hair; that product is legal to produce and market. But the apparent discovery that China's production of this merchandise is at least partially produce by forced labor is a second travesty. As Oromagi successfully argued in the latest debate on penalizing China on their Covid-19 incident [he argues that there is no international law that would penalize China, and he's right], it leaves a bad taste in one's mouth that no legal penalty is available to use against them. However, against abuse of human rights by way of slavery does have the imprimatur of international law, existing for the last 90 years as the Forced Labor Convention of the International Law Organization [C29]. China keeps proving they are not worthy to be part of the WTO. They are trolling that organization.

That is spot-on, but it will never happen because there is nothing, nada, nil of any progressive policy that does not not fight with another. The whole of it is a conglomerate of nonsense, and progressives would do nothing to spoil that banality.

Yes, it does, but your trailing comment is really the point. A cancer cell having some human DNA does not mean that cell will produce a human. "An inventory of the genes associated with cancer yielded 291 cancer genes based on mutation data available in the literature: ∼1% of the coding sequence (Futreal et al. 2004). It was noted that 90% of these genes were somatically mutated, 20% germline mutated, and 10% could be found in both categories. The division between germline and somatic genes is a mysterious dichotomy that remains unexplained in the most current inventory." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3698498/

Understand?

But I am not pro-choice. What would benefit all lives is if the nuclear family remained intact. Our society began its increase in social issues when Dad, and occasionally Mom, bailed.

Is that why they'll argue against all lives matter? https://www.parents.com/kids/responsibility/racism/reasons-all-lives-matter-doesnt-work-in-terms-simple-enough-for-a-child/

Considering that the fetus, actually from the moment of conception when two gametes become a zygote, the DNA says human, aznd specifically, the DNA of a black zygote says black skin, and not anything else. "Human," as in people. 

Of course you don't see hypocrisy. You're not looking.

That may be your preference, but I'll wager it usually ends with premature efactulation. That's an absolute

As long as BLM's radical progressive ideology continues to maintain that black lives matter, as if other lives do not, and simultaneously support abortion when 36% to 40% of abortions performed in the U.S.* are by black adults and minors, the disconnect is glaring at the BLM attitude. Eventually, BLM will collapse under the weight of its hypocrisy.

*https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/06/us/black-abortion-missouri.html

I'd say most Christians believe God created earth and heaven over six days - and some take that literally, but I don't - rested the seventh day, ergo, the Sabbath, and then retired, virtually literally. I believe God continues the work of creation today, both here and on other worlds. I think God creates continually by way of evolution, even to the point of beginning other worlds with their versions of Adam and Eve and Satan and Christ. Living eternally would otherwise be a boring prospect, and I don't think that's what He's about.

To Christopher's point, I believe our lives continue through death and resurrection, and continued advancement until we, too, have the potential of becoming like Him, and repeating the cycle of creation ourselves. What else would our ultimate purpose be? Don't boys and girls grow up to be like their fathers and mothers. Yeah, I have a Mother in Heaven. We're a family, literally, of billions of kids.

This is how civil wars start. It already is not civil, is it? This is why I maintain that the best political platform ever presented anywhere in the world at any time is the Sermon on the Mount, because it concisely contains the the solution to every single social issue we face today. What else is politics' purpose?

I joined DDO, not knowing, but realizing within a month it was already dead. I still maintain waiving is a chickenshyte tactic. like I had, get some balls. Argue your debate as initiator first; then see if your opponent forfeits or trolls, or anything else. I've had at least two debates wherein my opponent forfeited from scratch. I still argued my rounds, just for the practice of argument. It does not make a useless debate.

Give me a better reason that the initiator wanting to see the contender's argument first. You initiate a debate [not you, personally], have the balls to present your case first!

Good one!

good points except for spelling, but that may be because I notoriously spell badly on keyboard. Irony: I love excessive burn on bacon. It probably makes it more carcinogenic. In California.

There are a number of peeves I encounter in debate that frankly fry my bacon. Here's a few. Feel free to comment by addition, criticism, or retraction.

1. Declaring victory in early rounds of multiple-round debates.

2. Initiating a debate, then declaring waived rounds.

3. Making claims as fact without scholastic sourcing.

4. One of my favorites: using wiki as a source when other, more scholastic sources are available, even within wiki.

5. Declaring a debate by interrogative

Full disclosure: I've probably violated all these peeves, but not recently.

And what if creation continues through today using natural selection as a means of propagating species? What, you think God worked for six days and retired? That's nonsense, and much of Christianity revels in it. I don't.

Your posts 85/86 point to typical media barbs hurled at Trump. Old news that is not news. Yes, I've hurled barbs at joe Biden, but I'm quoting him; you do not quote Trump. You've offered the same tired arguments the media mob hurl. Some originality would be refreshing. Funny thing, Biden does the same, but offers no platform of good ideas. just Trump bombs. That's all Hillarious Balloon Girl did, and even Dems got tired of it. People say Hillary votes were really votes against Trump, as if the same was not true on the other side.

Virtually all animals of the earth have 5 senses shared with humans, and some have others in addition that function as proof of earth sciences, such as echo location and earth's magnetic field, yet you deny humans of any additional senses of empiric  proof? We, the highest being on earth's evolutionary ladder, and we are restricted to five empiric proofs? Argue for your limitations; they're yours.

And, being neither religious nor nihilistic, yours is the unenviable position of having no principle to prove. That's at best, tepid.

There comes a point in the progression toward the ultimate Christian ethic when even death is no longer a barrier to be feared. It becomes merely a door of passage from one existence to the next. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is a road of eternal progression whose ultimate aim is to become like God, as expressed in Matthew 5:48, which is the culmination of the first chapter of the Sermon on the Mount: "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect." That goal is not necessary to achieve in this lifetime, but, as said, death is merely a portal out of mortality and into immortality, a time of everlasting growth and advancement in knowledge and experience. For some, such as the apostles facing death, that punishment is sweet because they die in the Lord's embrace. What better place to be?

Show me. I can be better at evil than God, can't I? "Anything" is a reach too far. And before you argue that evil is not allowed in Christianity, consider that repentance is an integral part of Christianity, implying that while Christianity does not condone evil, it does acknowledge its existence, and the necessity to repent of it. 

And ebuc wonders why I block him.  Go figure. The tactic of personal attack is the last argument, and least effective left to a loser.

Until AI is sentient, and it is a long way from that, AI is nothing like the creation of Adam & Eve.

Estimate based on what?  And countered with the fact that of all species, man is adaptable far more than they because we can actually think of ways to adapt by changing our environment, such as the tech of A/C and heat, and building materials, and... As we adapt by technology, we vastly improve our probability of survival. Yes, tech can also lead to nukes, but when was the last time we did that? Not in your lifetime. How much fresh, potable water is underground? The fact is, we know of vast stores of it, and we don't know all there is, just like other resources.

Yeah, like not getting the point of free agency. When God warned Adam & Eve about the trees in the Garden, He said "Of every tree thou mayest freely eat." Every means all, no exceptions. However, He added that to eat of the tree of knowledge would being the consequence of death. Apparently, all other trees had no such consequence, nevertheless, He left it to their choice to eat of it, or not. That's free agency. And that's also a suggestion to understand what death is. Is death a bad thing? As long as it does not last, because of a resurrection, no, it is not a bad thing. It's just a door. We encounter those all the time.

While some consider the world overpopulated, I maintain that the planet does not suffer overpopulation; it suffers poor distribution of both people and resources. The fact is, at 7B in population there is sufficient land mass on earth in just actively agricultural and arable [ag land not actively cultivated] to give every man, woman, and child on earth over 1 acre each, and that does not include using urban, mountainous, arctic, forest or rain forest, or desert land as currently constituted. I did A graduate whit paper study on the subject, and updated it last year. We are just poor land managers. For example, in the U.S., why has no one built aqueducts from the confluence of the Mississippi/Missouri rivers to te southwest to relive the resulting flood plain of the lower Mississippi? It would solve at least two problems: flooding in one region, and desert in another. No, instead we throw billions away recovering from the results of both unbearable conditions.

Second, who says we all have to live here?

By their fruit you shall know them

Thanks for allowing me my choice. So generous you are. Thanks, but no. I do not jump to your hoops, and to few others. Propose it openly if that is your buttered slice of bread. 

Where technology is lacking, faith is operative. As for practicality, what is impractical about living forever, progressing forever?

In a normal free-market economy, yes, it is possible. That qualification must be a given, because a normal socialist economy will never achieve it.

Purpose of life: to fulfill the full measure of our creation: to become as God is, just as He was once like us. Eternal progression is the road we are on.

By application of faith: read and ponder. Become humble and teachable. Have a sincere desire to know, not by skepticism, but by hope. Pray for knowledge, having faith in Christ that an answer will be given, and that the Holy Spirit will respond with greater knowledge than had before. Don't knock if you haven't tried it. Faith is a sixth sense, just like taste and touch, and the three others. Like echo location and sense of earth's magnetic field in other animals. 

Absolutely the wrong conclusion. Investment in a company provides capital for that company to increase R&D, production, marketing and sales. Otherwise, you would not have venture capitalists. And they do re-invest. So, both your examples, continuing as they are doing, are potentially successful. What's to stop an infinite increase? Your skepticism? Nope.

Which does not discount the actual personal witness of the risen Lord.

What is missing from the chart is the number of Covid-19 deaths in which other coincident health issues were exacerbated by the virus. Your chart assumes Covid-19 is the only cause of death when we know that it's greatest number of deaths is the added factors of pre-existing conditions. plus the fact that because in many countries, calling a death as resulting from Covid-19 meant government subsidies due to the pandemic, so even deaths unrelated to Covid -19 were reported as such. See https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Matthew, John, Peter, and Paul, at least.

You have just acknowledged that resurrection is technically possible, and then argued against it for practical bio-tech reasons. Which is it?

I am talking about people who pull down monuments. You know, the root subject of this forum post? Stay on point, yeah? There are no monuments to Hitler in this country, either. Why bring him up?

The apostles were eye witnesses, and I trust their testimonies as factual.

Thus candy-striped history buffed by pol-corr.  Not a valid filter.  History was what it was. Who made you the arbiter of what constitutes a good history, or a bad one. It was. It behooves us to make it better, but once you start destruction of it, where do you stop?

George Washington was a slave owner. So was Tom Jefferson. Pity to eradicate their memory for that when they were so much more than that. Would you want to be remembered for just one thing? I didn't think so. We all have flaws. Pointing them out to one another accomplishes nothing.

Every one of your cited options [post #51] are government agency responses. Until we personally get over our physical differences and ignore them, or, rather, celebrate them as reflections of human diversity and culture, no government program will compensate. And when that happens, no government program will keep up with the personal progress we each make with one another. In other words, stop depending on government to solve our problems, They are terrible at it, and getting worse.

We have changed our environment significantly just by the tech we have to heat and air condition and humidify and de-humidify our interiors, and, to an extent, even our exteriors. But, evolution is more than adaptation to environment, let alone facial variations. What's an appendix for? Tonsils? Why are both of my little toes turned on axis outward 90 degrees? Why is my voice like that of God [or James Earl Jones] when the rest in my immediate family have timid voices?

Some people have no respect for an unchangeable era, even yesterday. George Santayana was correct. Forget history, be condemned to repeat it. Therefore, those who attempt to alter history by it erasure will do the very things they condemn. The pattern has been so since history began.

Dr. Franklin's examples are, at best, second-hand,  [Clement born in Rome, 35 CE, and Justin Martyr born in Flavia in 100 CE. So, my own testimony by the Holy Spirit of the resurrection of Jesus Christ is just as valid. I trust the first-hand accounts of M,M,L&J more than either Clement or Justin. I trust the witness of the remainder of the 9 apostles [one dying by his own hand before the crucifixion. I trust Paul. I trust Mary. I trust the two on the road to Emmaus.

As long as you look at the market as a quick-fix wealth generator, you're going to be disappointed by fluctuation. Look, I've been invested in Apple since 1985. In Amazon since 1995. They represent my two biggest stock investments, and I DO NOT SELL. Apple: 35 YEARS. Amazon: 25 YEARS. Not six months. I own three properties and rent out two if them, and wholly own the third. No mortgages. Minimal monthly management fees. Only, I really don't own any of them. My living trust does. AS I profit from my rentals, they continue to increase in value because both are in prime neighborhoods. At this point in time, I don't invest in high-risk, aggressive investing; your bugaboo. What current economic crisis? I'm not in Enron, Freddie and Fannie.  I've been at this since I was 22. 48 YEARS. It takes time, my friend, and it's wasting while you complain instead of doing it.

Invest: if you don't do it, don't knock it. I did and do. My results speak for themselves. We are no longer in the 20s. We've learne4d a few things since then. 

No. They are governments with socialists in the government, and they certainly are leaning socialist, but their systems as a whole are not socialist.

And my point is a question: Why is it impossible? Give me a good reason why it is impossible. A GOOD reason. My point is, anyone with ambition, planning, and execution can live above average. Why don't they?

No. That's only if you either truly have a limited money supply, or if you print it, like Bush and Oba'a did. If you increase money supply by the forces of a free-market economy, the money supply adds value. That's why investment works. It was my father's advice, and many others who undestand how the market is supposed to work by ambition, planning, and execution. It works. My dad was a mild investor. I am more agressive. He was never a millionaire. Close, but no. I am several times over. I'm not just selling a line: I KNOW it works. 

Show me how inflation limits the money supply, particularly when, as now, inflation is low. Nice claim, no support. One suggestion: part of inflation is cost of export vs. import. Right now, and for the last 40 years, export deficits cost is higher than import, and this has direct effect on GDP. Reverse that equation, GDP ,and, therefore potential to money supply increases. It is exactly what Trump is trying to do like no other President since 40 year ago.