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@Deb-8-a-bull
The EARTH is the center of the universe, not the sun.
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@Paul
I am at odds with science, not because it is at odds with my religion, but because most of what they call "science" is a laughable joke.
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@Alec
Ive never tried before, it's an interesting experience
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I want to learn hebrew and biblical hebrew so i can read the torah in it's original language. where is the best place to start? I got a couple of children's books and flashcards, and im also starting with some free learning guides online. so far i am utterly confused, i have never learned another language before. so far ive learned some of the letters, a few words and short sentences. i really can't afford too much at the moment, so i cant do a study course or anything like that. i need free or cheap options.
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nope
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@keithprosser
Can you site some examples of Stephen using violence inciting language?
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The third millenium priesthood of the materialist world.
They are called "scientists".
Discuss.
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@Mopac
Yeah I guess I was being impatient as well.my apologies
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What is yourproblem. I thanked you for answering, I admitted i didn't realize you had answered. That's admitting to a mistake. What more do you want
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@Mopac
I didn't realize you were finally answering my question about purifying the heart. So thanks for answering, although I didn't get it.
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@Mopac
Uh, you're the one who told me to sell my things, remember? Who is judging who?
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@Polytheist-Witch
Like what religions? Name five, and include proof
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@RationalMadman
at the very least a promise 'spiritual bliss' nonsense
I agree on that, "spiritual Bliss" is nonsense, spirituality has nothing to do with bliss, unicorns, or rainbows.
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@RationalMadman
I don't know. It is a guess based on experience and research into comparing religions, alchemy, tarot, etc.
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@keithprosser
You speak as if Jesus were a real person, and not a mythological figure.
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@RationalMadman
You are more than just your body, hormones, physical structure.
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@RationalMadman
our ability to transcend into spiritual beings while still in the body
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@RationalMadman
All religions that made it to the mainstream were designed to make us tamer, poorer and feel guilty if we were not either of those 2 things.
They were also designed to hide the truth
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"You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
Who, then, is supposed to take care of my needs?
If we all choose to do this , we are all "the poor". Who will take care of the poor then?
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@Outplayz
Well be careful with that. But you know your body best and i'm sure you'll be able to catch the signs if you need to go back on. I've heard a lot of mystics and gurus talk about how people can control ailments with their minds. So, i don't know... i personally got rid of the most vicious parts of my depression so i kinda wonder now. How much of your mind can you control? I imagine since it is a part of you... you should technically be able to control everything.
My friend also has a similar health problem and i try to teach him how to shut it off. Although he is totally aware of it and is doing pretty good at not letting it interfere with his life... he's still hard headed about one thing. The voice he hears is "evil" as he says. He thinks it's either a curse or some kind of demon. It torments him by saying evil things. I keep telling him it's not a demon or a curse... or even if it is, that he is stronger so he can kill it. I'm trying to frame his view of it in a different way so he can beat it or at least change the voice. But he is convinced it's a demon. I wonder how much of that conviction also plays a part in the voice being what it is... i'm sorta doing a mini-science experience on him (like the mad scientist i am). I truly think if he can change his perspective of what it is... at least he can change it to something more pleasant.
It may just be a matter of willpower.
The voice could be a demon, or part of his own psyche. his shadow.
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@Outplayz
I kind of waver between being agnostic and REALLY believing. When i say agnostic, it is only a technicallity. I believe in God at least 95% right now. it changes
I could be a complete lunatic. in fact, i just quit taking my meds, to see how it goes
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ok, hope you decide to come back
do you really expect people to change though?
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@Mopac
I am sure God judges us every single moment.
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@Mopac
Purify the heart.
How again, exactly?
Abandon everything. Sell all that you have, give it away. Humble yourself. Be nothing.
I'm sure you've done this. Are you naked at a library computer?
Love God with all of your heart, soul, mind, and strength. The opposite of love is selfishness. Don't love to gain, love God because God of who God Is.
Describe to me how to love someone. Love isn't a choice.
Everything will be added to you.
Like what?
Abide in these.
Faith. Hope. Charity.
Faith is pretending.
Be honest. Examine yourself. What motivates you? What controls you? What gets in the way of The Truth? Even you. Kill yourself. Die to the world. The only worthwhile is God.
I examine myself every day. I consider it a part of my spiritual practice.
If God isn't that important to you, you have accepted your bribes. You have chosen darkness rather than light. Don't blame God. You have been given freewill. You have made your choice. You have put your trust in what perishes. You will perish with it. Put your trust in The Immortal One. You will live forever with it. Abide in The Truth.
What is the Truth again? Oh yes, I remember now. You don't know.
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@Outplayz
Yes, it would be consistant, since all experiences could be accomodated.
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@Outplayz
Lol yep... Let's say an infinite consciousness is the platform. Do you think this sort of platform makes sense in regards to correlating with your spiritual experiences?
Well, I can't grasp "infinity" .
My mind always tries to lean towards a consciousness that has a beginning, a structure, a definite form, a chance of ending.
So I'm not sure I can even start to answer your question.
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@Outplayz
Then that would probably be too many cooks in the kitchen.
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@Mopac
More nonsense. Tell me in detail how to purify my heart. If you can't, i will know it's just more blustering from you.
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@Mopac
I don't know what you mean by "purify the heart". Explain.
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@Mopac
I accept frustration as a part of learning.
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@Mopac
Honestly I have no idea what you mean.
I'm sure there IS truth, i just don't know what it is.
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