keithprosser

The world is the general name for all the passions.

Why is it unfortunate?

Triangularity is a universal. It applies to many instances in the real world. In my view, triangularity as such does not exist except as a concept in a mind. It is a definition for triangles. If a shape meets the conditions of the definition, then it "has" triangularity. It really means nothing other than "this shape is a triangle because it satisfies the definitive requirements as set forth by the concept of triangularity."

I just have to wonder why god didn't "act" upon Adam and Eve's children to remove "original sin" from them, thus saving us and everyone else a whole lot of trouble.

Well, mainly it's because God doesn't exist.

There are library shelves full of theological rationalisations of the paradoxes in scripture.  I have not come across one that really works.
 

You already told me there is no reason for the why concerning the universe, so you can't make sense of why in relation to it. 

You can give reasons for things in the universe but not the universe itself. You keep finding reasons which speak volumes to a reasoning Being as the cause for that reason you find. 

Ah, the old Freudian psychosis!  Freud said it and you believe it! And Dawkin's added to it! Your on that bandwagon, going nowhere. 

Throughout civilization, a majority of people have believed in an ultimate higher Being but atheism and scientism, which has zero explainability IMO, is causing some to think they are the answer. 

So Mary's mother (grandmother of the Jesus) was also free of "original sin"?

I could ask the why or how, but it is interesting that your worldview cannot make sense of the "why" which is why I say a necessary being is necessary for understanding the how and why with certainty. Otherwise, we are always at the mercy of the next paradigm shift in understanding.

I think I do 'make sense of the Why"' - However I don't think there is a 'why'.  That is I don't  think a god decided 'I want man to exist, therefore I must create a universe for him to exist within'. 

Why does ice float?  It's because ice is less dense than water and because that is so we get icebergs.  But 'to make icebergs' is not 'why' of ice being less dense than water.  There is no plan or objective behind it; it just so happens that ice is less dense than water and that accident of nature  has consquences - icebergs being one.  In the same way we are a consequence of the accidental details of the physics that arose out of the big bang. 

The evidence for that is better than the evidence for anything in the bible!

That is why the question becomes, If God, who is God? What are the reasons for the different gods?

I not sure you ever asked that question before!  But as you have asked it, I'd say the answer lies in human psychology.
 

Then answer the reason why the universe came to be. Why would "chance" give sufficient reason?

"[The entity that gave moses 10 commandments] provides a sufficient and neccessary reason for the universe" is just not true!  YHWH creating the universe might be sufficient for the world to exist, but its not neccessary it was Him.  It could have been zeus, or brahma - either would be sufficient, but it ain't necessarily any of them! 

What are you talking about, Keith? Why would The Ten Commandments give a reason for the universe? What reason would be sufficient for the universe from a human perspective? We still have various views that compete with each other. 

The evidence for Zeus or Brahma is nowhere near as detailed as the biblical evidence for God. What historical evidence can you offer for Zeus interacting with humans?

Prophecy provides a reasonable and logical example that is not easily rI am at a loss to know how to prove a piece of writing is not genuine prophecy.  It's not hard to show a 'prophecy' isn't neccessarily miraculous, but completely proving it?- Not possible.  

What is the reasonableness for your view as opposed to the historical and biblical view I can present is the question?

I'm here mostly to learn. Like how to defend conceptualism from realist arguments.

You'll probably only learn how to name-call and make snide comments here, but those skills do come in handy against tricksy realist rhetoric elsewhere!

The bible refers several times to flying ships and people appearances, so it's not far fetched to think they were alliens. Why rule out these possibilities?

People who murder, people who prey upon the weakness of others, bigots, those with vile prejudice -- all of these people feel like scum to me. But how can I look any of these people in the eye and say they are objectively bad people when I don't believe things are objectively bad?

So you admit there is no room for learning things outside your own paradigms? are you sure you want to admit that?

As you can see Keith, ET is so far gone bat shit crazy, he believes his insane delusions are facts.

Thayt's why I'm not in the mood to argue with him. 

I know bro, I know you believe that but give this a chance. There is more to this than you may realize, hang in there my friend. 

I'm sure you all know that I am new here. I read some debates and votes and forum posts before starting myself to post. I just learned that no one else on this page has any profile info. Why is that?

Not everything in the Bible is accurate, that's what I've been trying to get through to people.

I think that messge has got through.

It seems to me Ev imagines god as YHWH with some of his more obvious warts removed.

Lol, why does only the Bible ever get to share facts about God? is that the only perception you people accept?? seems yal want God to be stupid, fine. 

Darkness itself does not exist outside human minds and human language.

Crazy people are always trying to tell us what God is or isn't. Funny how crazy people know this stuff, I wonder how, hmmm...?

Littering is neither objectively right or wrong.

I don't know how to properly do it.

Do you believe that evil exists?

Perhaps you are right but my experience is what has made me the sort of person that thinks over a proposition before accepting it. Unless I somehow chose to have those experiences then it hardly matters.

The world is the general name for all the passions. When we wish to call the passions by a common name, we call them the world.

That could get confusing...!  

"this can't be what Mopac meant"

And of course, before someone interprets that passage in Matthew as literally moving mountains check yourself, what Jesus is showing is how faith is used to overcome obstacles whatever they may be for the individual. 

And to say there is no evidence of God's existence is a ludicrous claim, as all of creation testifies of God. The Ultimate Reality clearly exists.

Looking up at the night sky and seeing the moon and all the stars and planets etc., must make anyone think that maybe there is a creator-god. 

What you can see in they sky is evidence but it only takes you so far - you just a get a vague feeling there is probaby a creator. 

To know in you heart there certainly is a creator and moreover that creator is the god of the bible and that God loves you - to know all that is True goes beyond seeing the moon in the sky.   To know that God is without doubt the ultiate reality is where faith comes in.

As Aquiinas says in Tantum ego, faith supplements the senses; it does not not replace them..

That isn't the same thing as without evidence.