I'll object to being called liar & would remind Con that continuing arguments as well as ad homming voters in the comments section are both generally considered bad form.
I have a certain sympathy for Con since I too believed before reading this debate that sea lions and seals were rather distinct species. I remember my California friends telling me that sea lions descend from bear-like ancestors, seals descend from weasel-like ancestors. The subject makes a perfect trap for a debate because most non-biologists aren't aware that the conventional understanding was entirely upturned after 21st century genetic analysis. Now we know that sea lions are a relatively recent off-shoot of northern fur seals and that some fur seals are more closely related to sea lions than to other fur seals and therefore the fur seal/sea lion subfamily distinction has been eliminated in modern taxonomies. All seals, including sea lions are descended from a bear-like form, contrary to what physiology alone would suggest.
Here is the 2001 study that changed the paradigm: "Phylogenetic Relationships within the Eared Seals (Otariidae: Carnivora): Implications for the Historical Biogeography of the Family"
blamonkey instigates with "build the wall" therefore I expected the contender to argue against the wall but as it happens instigator is arguing against his own resolution....On DDO the instigator could choose PRO/CON but I don't see that option on DArt. Am I missing something? How did AIRhino know to take the affirmative?
I see u are CON- is that schools do not prepare kids for future or factory jobs or schools only prepare kids for factory jobs, not the future?
I'll object to being called liar & would remind Con that continuing arguments as well as ad homming voters in the comments section are both generally considered bad form.
I have a certain sympathy for Con since I too believed before reading this debate that sea lions and seals were rather distinct species. I remember my California friends telling me that sea lions descend from bear-like ancestors, seals descend from weasel-like ancestors. The subject makes a perfect trap for a debate because most non-biologists aren't aware that the conventional understanding was entirely upturned after 21st century genetic analysis. Now we know that sea lions are a relatively recent off-shoot of northern fur seals and that some fur seals are more closely related to sea lions than to other fur seals and therefore the fur seal/sea lion subfamily distinction has been eliminated in modern taxonomies. All seals, including sea lions are descended from a bear-like form, contrary to what physiology alone would suggest.
Here is the 2001 study that changed the paradigm: "Phylogenetic Relationships within the Eared Seals (Otariidae: Carnivora): Implications for the Historical Biogeography of the Family"
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1055790301910127?via%3Dihub
blamonkey instigates with "build the wall" therefore I expected the contender to argue against the wall but as it happens instigator is arguing against his own resolution....On DDO the instigator could choose PRO/CON but I don't see that option on DArt. Am I missing something? How did AIRhino know to take the affirmative?