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@Discipulus_Didicit
not quite, i corrected four or five grammar errors and changed the tense to first person
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I am assuming that the other two scum are the MAILMAN who never mails anything and VIGILANTE who never kills anybody.
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My name is Gilberto Rodriguez. As the leader of the Cali cartel I know everything that happens in my city. I also follow the actions of the members of Norte del Valle and before that, the actions of Pablo Escobar in Bogata and Medellin. For that reason I am a Tracker. Every Night I can follow a person and learn who that person visited. Win with the People.
DP1- Supadudz (FAILED)
DP2- Drafertman (no movement)
In DP1 POST #115 I claimed this role cryptically: A Russian King prefers the French verb for love
TSAR+ADORE=
RASTREADOR=
spanish for TRACKER
VTL Zaradi for claiming I am scout
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Here's a DDO debate from 7 years ago that I won on a variation of this topic:
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The ARTISTIC EXPRESSION forum is more for personal expressions- fanfiction things like that. The ART forum is where painting, cinema, music, etc is discussed.
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NATURAL is "existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind."
WIKIPEDIA advises:
"The true extent of homosexuality in animals is not known. While studies have demonstrated homosexual behavior in a number of species, Petter Bøckman, the scientific advisor of the exhibition Against Nature? in 2007, speculated that the true extent of the phenomenon may be much larger than was then recognized: (emphasis mine)
"No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have sex at all, such as sea urchins and aphis. Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue." [25]
An example of overlooking homosexual behavior is noted by Bagemihl describing mating giraffes where nine out of ten pairings occur between males:
"Every male that sniffed a female was reported as sex, while anal intercourse with orgasm between males was only "revolving around" dominance, competition or greetings."[28]
Since all animals species which have had their sexuality studied have shown at least some homosexuality, homosexuality is shown to be a resoundingly natural trait in animals. If humans as a species refrained from homosexuality entirely, then that species would be the one exception and that exception due to human-made causes. By definition, the absence of homosexuality in humans would be the unnatural choice.
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When the blazing sun hangs low in the western sky
When the wind dies away on the mountain
When the song of the meadowlark turns still
When the free locust clicks no more in the field
and the sea-foam sleeps like a maiden at rest
and twilight touches the shape of the wandering Earth
I turn home
Through blue shadows and purple woods
I turn home
I turn to the place where I was born
to the mother who bore me and the father who taught me
long ago
long ago
Alone am I now
lost in a far wide wandering world
Still when the sun hangs low
and the wind dies away
and the sea-foam sleeps
and twilight touches the wandering Earth
I turn home
-Dalton Trumbo
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UVC
Supa - (6/6) Singularity, Speed, Supa, Zaradi, Oromagi, Lunatic
Singularity - (2/6) Disc, Water
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Here's dudz flipping scum 2 months ago claiming WEAK HIDER
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Yo no soy marinero
Yo no soy marinero, soy capitán,
Soy capitán, soy capitán
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@Zaradi
I'm willing to withhold if you think more time has value but I'm ready to flip Supa and progress.
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@Lunatic
yeah but those are the three main henchmen- nothing says that can't be the theme right there Pablo's Henchmen vs. all others. I don't assume Pablo and these must be in one group.
In fact, I know they aren't all in one group because they are four and El Quica is scum. We know that the number of scum is three so all four are defintinely not on the same team.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Checklist for the DP:(-) All living players give substantial posts(-) GP receals actions(-) Lynch singularityI am heading offline. Make it happen, people.
Done
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@Greyparrot
@Speedrace
no dick pics this time
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@Lunatic
TUF (&anyone familiar with the show)
IF La Quica and Poison both flip scum, am I wrong in thinking
El Limon makes a natural thematic third?
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@Greyparrot
we did
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@Greyparrot
he's told like five obvious lies. He claimed HIDER yesterday but WEAK HIDER today in an effort to make TUF look town confirmed. He claims the weak part was in Spanish but he never (managed to? bothered to?) translate the word assuming it meant "you are" (Supa knows too much Spanish for this to pass muster).
He tells DD that he doesn't even know what a WEAK flavored HIDER means but Speed reports that Supa fake claimed WEAK HIDER during the Office Mafia
He claims he's translating from PM but he accidentally types Claudia instead of Maria, Mexicans instead of Columbianos. Those are mistakes made during composition, not transliteration.
Sup is obv scum. What are you, I wonder?
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@Greyparrot
You were quick to jump on Virt without explanation. Are you down with Sup for lunch?
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@Greyparrot
that sucks for your town cred, tho
Please advise of any corrections, additions
11. Oromagi Gilberto Rodriguez
X. Virtuoso Pacho Herrera BULLETPROOF
X. Bullish Judy Moncada ASCETIC
TOWN
3. Speed Pablo Escobar
12. Singularity El Limon
7. Greyparrot Poison MAILMAN (no action)
5. Supa La Quica HIDER TUF
SCUM
CALI (season 3)
Gilberto Rodriguez
Maria Salazar
X.Pacho Herrera
MEDELLIN (Season 1 & 2)
Pablo Escobar
El Limon
Poison
La Quica
LOS PEPES
Javier Pena
X.Judy Moncada
Steve Murphy?
UVC:
Supa - (4/6) Singularity, Speed, Supa
Singularity - (2/6) Disc, Water
Zaradi - (1/6) Lunatic
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@WaterPhoenix
...also his translator translated "Colombianos" as "Mexicans"
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@Vader
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I didn't know what a Weak Hider was besides my role justification nor did I know what Weak in Spanish is.
You are definitely not sure whether you ever google translated your PM or not.
It says Debiles Hider.
So, essentially you are accusing ILikePie5 of incompetently failing to translate the flavor of your role? Is that really how you want to stand here on the day of your execution?
Ooof. That's a stinker. I have never studied Spanish but I know what usted esta means You seem to know a little Spanish, more than me.
When looking at it, I skimmed over and tried to throw something together with it and it didn't turn out. I did not know what a Weak Hider did, I thoughts that is how all hider's function
How is that possible if (as you admit) you used WEAK HIDER as a claim just a few games back with Speed?
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I am all for lynching Supa. Unvoting for time to collect data.
UNVOTE
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@Vader
@Discipulus_Didicit
So- why did you just lie to DD when you pretended not to know what WEAK HIDER meant?
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@Zaradi
ActuallyUnvoteThis feels super fast. Let's let some other people post here. Drafter's made a single post, disc has been kinda quiet compared to last DP, and grey hasn't posted at all.
I agree. We need Grey's mailing address. But also- nobody has claimed receiving a mail from Grey which is fairly damning.
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@Vader
So- You want us to believe you are translating from a PM in front of you but you:
- Accidentally wrote CLAUDIA when you meant CLAUDIO
- Accidentally meant CLAUDIO when you should've meant MARIA Salazar
- Accidentally typed Mexicans instead of Colombians, tho you claim it says Colombians in the PM
- Accidentally left off the WEAK modifier on HIDER
Didn't you claim WEAK HIDER as scum just a few games back as SpeedRace says?
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[TUF whispers to SupaDudz]: 'try just VTL'ing yourself...it worked for me yesterday."
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@Speedrace
VTL SupaLOL he literally fake claimed weak hider in Office Mafia and I was his partner, I was fuming as he scrambled to say he wasn't weak, was weak, wasn't weakAnyway, his role should be in English, which means he's lying.Also, this doesn't necessarily make Lunatic scum, he accidentally confirmed someone who was actually town in office Mafia
So we know he faking it when he says to DD, "What's a weak hider?"
Yeah, I'm on board with this.
VTL Supadudz
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--> @SupaDudz--> @Discipulus_Didicitit says Delibes Hider? I think Delibes means Weak from my knowledge, but Google Trnaslate is calling it soft
Your Google Translate two days ago did not say soft or weak:
"It says La Quica. La Quica is Juan Diego Diaz. I am the Hider. I escaped from Americans under Pablo Escobar because I killed the second most people behind him, and was hiding from the Mexican authorities when Pablo died until i got captured"
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@Vader
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it says Delibes Hider? I think Delibes means Weak from my knowledge, but Google Trnaslate is calling it soft
Your Google Translate two days ago did not say soft or weak:
"It says La Quica. La Quica is Juan Diego Diaz. I am the Hider. I escaped from Americans under Pablo Escobar because I killed the second most people behind him, and was hiding from the Mexican authorities when Pablo died until i got captured"
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Bullish - Usted se llama Judy Moncada. Después del muerte de su esposo por Pablo Escobar, decidiste a ver el fin del poder de Pablo Escobar. Decidiste a trabajar con Don Berna y el cartel del Cali pero por el fin salió Colombia por todo el tiempo y nunca podía regresar. Por eso usted es él Ascetic. Nadie puede dirigir acciones que no son letales a ti. Gana con el Pueblo.
Bullish - You are called Judy Moncada. After the death of her husband by Pablo Escobar, you decided to see the end of the power of Pablo Escobar. You decided to work with Don Berna and the Cali cartel but Colombia finally came out all the time and could never return. That's why you are Ascetic. No one can direct actions that are not lethal to you. Win with the People.
I like the dual meaning in the translation, " no one can direct actions that are not lethal to you"
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Virtuoso - Tú eres Pacho Herrera. Eres un miembro del cartel de Cali y fuiste a México para negociar con los Mexicanos sobre el movimiento de la cocaína. Los asesinos del Norte Del Valle te atacaron pero les mataron aunque recibiste una bala. Por eso eres un 1x Bulletproof.
Por una vez, si algúien te matara por la noche no moririas, pero él segundo vez, vas a morir. Ganas con el Pueblo.
Virtuoso - You are Pacho Herrera. You are a member of the Cali cartel and went to Mexico to negotiate with the Mexicans about the cocaine movement. The assassins of North Del Valle attacked you but killed them even though you received a bullet. That's why you are a 1x Bulletproof. For once, if someone killed you at night, you would not die, but he will die for the second time. You win with the People.
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speaking of weakit says Delibes Hider? I think Delibes means Weak from my knowledge, but Google Trnaslate is calling it soft
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--> @ZaradiCool, DD is town. Scratch that one off the list.Additionally, if we believe Supa that TUF is town
scratch that. Supa's not weak so no town conf.
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@Zaradi
Cool, DD is town. Scratch that one off the list.
I am less convinced. I don't know much about this show but I know Steve Murphy should be in this game and he's not with 3 slots left. That makes me think Steve Murphy is a likely scum character and Steve's partner is Javier Pena. Additionally, if we believe Supa that TUF is town AND we still believe two MILLERs is highly unlikely (no reason for town's skepticism in DP1 to change, as far as I can see) THEN DD's town credit should be going down, not up.
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Please advise of any corrections, additions
11. Oromagi Gilberto Rodriguez
X. Virtuoso Pacho Herrera BULLETPROOF
X. Bullish Judy Moncada ASCETIC
TOWN
3. Speed Pablo Escobar
7. Greyparrot Poison MAILMAN
12. Singularity El Limon
4. DD Javier Pena MILLER [CC second]
2. Lunatic Maria Salazar MILLER [CC first]
5. Supa La Quica HIDER TUF
9. WaterPhoenix (no claim)
6. Zaradi (no claim)
1. Drafterman (no claim)
SCUM
CALI (season 3)
Gilberto Rodriguez
Maria Salazar
X.Pacho Herrera
MEDELLIN (Season 1 & 2)
Pablo Escobar
El Limon
Poison
La Quica
LOS PEPES
Javier Pena
X.Judy Moncada
Steve Murphy?
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Singularity - (2/6) Disc, Water
Zaradi - (2/6) Lunatic, Singularity
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@Zaradi
Thanks! Sorry for any duplication of effort.
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@Lunatic
@drafterman
@Discipulus_Didicit
Wednesdays are long nights for me, so I'll probably read things over tomorrow. Try not to like, fucking lynch town while I'm away.
No claims or help or anything? No spreadsheets? That's not like Draft at all.
Hey, Big Players- Can you confirm that drafterman is usually not available on Wednesdays?
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@Zaradi
Please id and say why. We have three leads for scum
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Kind of odd how when a main player is town reading you and defending you you are willing to look all the less active players in the eyes and say "go ahead lynch me I'll even vtl myself" but as soon as you don't have a big player to publicly back you up you start getting all defensive at the idea that you might be FOS'ed next DP.
hmmm... DD thinks of himself as a "big player" which means he thinks of most of us as "little players" I wonder how this mindset influences his reads.
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@Speedrace
That's not what I meant, from what I've heard of this character, my role is probably the first thing I'd choose for him
Well, that would have to be Godfather, right?
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@Lunatic
At least we know Cali cartel is town. Looks good for oro.
Bullshit. Scum knows who is town- Town is still collating data
Please explain immediately how you knew Bullish was Judy Moncada. It seems to me like scum has a character list.
Supa has Claudia in his head- TUF has Judy.
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@David
If you are town, now is the time to save yourself.
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Virtuoso - (6/7) Drafter, Disc, Zaradi, Supa, Lunatic, Greyparrot
Lunatic - (2/7) Bullish, Singularity
SupaDudz - (2/7) Oro,
Singularity - (1/7) Water
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