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Cali cartel could also be scumdont have a huge role in the show til the end of season 2.
I am Cali Cartel and I am town. I've only seen the first couple of eps and my character is not in them. IMDB seems to confirm my character is big in season 3.
I can't read my PM but I assume I'm town cause I'm the only one in my PM. There's also a word that looks like the English word "dispute" and it immediately precedes the name "Pablo Escobar" so I'm assuming I'm a good guy in-theme.
This strikes me as over-acting.
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I am Gilberto Rodríguez
Cryptic ROLE claim: A Russian king prefers the French verb for love
"No llores porque ya se terminó, sonríe porque sucedió." -Gabriel García Márquez
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In August of 2015, just three months after Trump announced his candidacy for president, two of his supporters in Boston beat a homeless Latino man with a metal pipe, and then urinated on him. Asked by the arresting officer why they had done it, one of the attackers said, “Trump was right—all these illegals need to be deported.” During a press conference shortly thereafter, Trump said he hadn’t heard about the assault. “It would be a shame,” he told the crowd of reporters, before continuing, “I will say, the people that are following me are very passionate. They love this country and they want this country to be great again. They are passionate.”
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"I will build a great wall—and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me—and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words. "
-Donald Trump
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I won't cause a fuss- NARCOS
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@ILikePie5
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o cum all ye losers
dumb but unrepentant
o cum ye you elephants of
ma ah fee uh
cum be emboldened cuz
greyparrot is play-ay-ying
he might again just shout out
his scum affiliation!
o cum and be emboldened!
Ma... Ah.... Fee uhhhhhhhhhhhh
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@ILikePie5
"did orowave my motivate? " is my new favorite song
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I decided if there was a TOWN win where PartamRuhem played a ROLEBLOCKER that would that WP must be the liar because what are the odds? God damned if there isn't a town win out there where PartamRuhem is ROLEBLOCKER I now suppose the odds are probably better than I guessed- I could only find six or seven PartamRuhem games but there could be tons. Old-timers had a big advantage in knowing the relative frequency of some playernames.
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@Zaradi
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@Zaradi
--> @draftermanWhat did you think of 47?specificallyAnd drafter is giving me crap in the PM for not wanting to lynch GP quick last DP which is fairly scummy, I'd say.It feels like a set up for the next lynch target.
except that I know drafter has MASONED me and I know there's are ROLEBLOCKER so it doesn't make sense
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Donald J. Trump: You know and ...
Unknown: She used to be great. She’s still very beautiful.
Trump: I moved on her, actually. You know, she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I’ll admit it.
Unknown: Whoa.
Trump: I did try and fuck her. She was married.
Unknown: That’s huge news.
Trump: No, no, Nancy. No, this was [unintelligible] — and I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping.
She wanted to get some furniture. I said, “I’ll show you where they have some nice furniture.” I took her out furniture —
Unknown: She used to be great. She’s still very beautiful.
Trump: I moved on her, actually. You know, she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I’ll admit it.
Unknown: Whoa.
Trump: I did try and fuck her. She was married.
Unknown: That’s huge news.
Trump: No, no, Nancy. No, this was [unintelligible] — and I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping.
She wanted to get some furniture. I said, “I’ll show you where they have some nice furniture.” I took her out furniture —
I moved on her like a bitch. But I couldn’t get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look.
Billy Bush: Sheesh, your girl’s hot as shit. In the purple.
Trump: Whoa! Whoa!
Bush: Yes! The Donald has scored. Whoa, my man!
[Crosstalk]
Trump: Look at you, you are a pussy.
[Crosstalk]
Trump: All right, you and I will walk out.
[Silence]
Trump: Maybe it’s a different one.
Bush: It better not be the publicist. No, it’s, it’s her, it’s —
Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
Billy Bush: Sheesh, your girl’s hot as shit. In the purple.
Trump: Whoa! Whoa!
Bush: Yes! The Donald has scored. Whoa, my man!
[Crosstalk]
Trump: Look at you, you are a pussy.
[Crosstalk]
Trump: All right, you and I will walk out.
Trump: Maybe it’s a different one.
Bush: It better not be the publicist. No, it’s, it’s her, it’s —
Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
Bush: Whatever you want.
Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.
Bush: Uh, yeah, those legs, all I can see is the legs.
Trump: Oh, it looks good.
Bush: Come on shorty.
Trump: Ooh, nice legs, huh?
Bush: Oof, get out of the way, honey. Oh, that’s good legs. Go ahead.
Trump: It’s always good if you don’t fall out of the bus. Like Ford, Gerald Ford, remember?
Bush: Down below, pull the handle.
Trump: Hello, how are you? Hi!
Arianne Zucker: Hi, Mr. Trump. How are you? Pleasure to meet you.
Trump: Nice seeing you. Terrific, terrific. You know Billy Bush?
Bush: Hello, nice to see you. How you doing, Arianne?
Zucker: Doing very well, thank you. Are you ready to be a soap star?
Trump: We’re ready, let’s go. Make me a soap star.
Bush: How about a little hug for the Donald? He just got off the bus.
Zucker: Would you like a little hug, darling?
Trump: O.K., absolutely. Melania said this was O.K.
Bush: How about a little hug for the Bushy? I just got off the bus.
Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.
Bush: Uh, yeah, those legs, all I can see is the legs.
Trump: Oh, it looks good.
Bush: Come on shorty.
Trump: Ooh, nice legs, huh?
Bush: Oof, get out of the way, honey. Oh, that’s good legs. Go ahead.
Trump: It’s always good if you don’t fall out of the bus. Like Ford, Gerald Ford, remember?
Bush: Down below, pull the handle.
Trump: Hello, how are you? Hi!
Arianne Zucker: Hi, Mr. Trump. How are you? Pleasure to meet you.
Trump: Nice seeing you. Terrific, terrific. You know Billy Bush?
Bush: Hello, nice to see you. How you doing, Arianne?
Zucker: Doing very well, thank you. Are you ready to be a soap star?
Trump: We’re ready, let’s go. Make me a soap star.
Bush: How about a little hug for the Donald? He just got off the bus.
Zucker: Would you like a little hug, darling?
Trump: O.K., absolutely. Melania said this was O.K.
Bush: How about a little hug for the Bushy? I just got off the bus.
Zucker: Bushy, Bushy.
Bush: Here we go. Excellent. Well, you’ve got a nice co-star here.
Zucker: Yes, absolutely.
Trump: Good. After you.
[Break in video]
Trump: Come on, Billy, don’t be shy.
Bush: Soon as a beautiful woman shows up, he just, he takes off. This always happens.
Trump: Get over here, Billy.
Zucker: I’m sorry, come here.
Bush: Let the little guy in here, come on.
Zucker: Yeah, let the little guy in. How you feel now? Better? I should actually be in the middle.
Bush: It’s hard to walk next to a guy like this.
Zucker: Here, wait, hold on.
Bush: Yeah, you get in the middle, there we go.
Trump: Good, that’s better.
Zucker: This is much better. This is —
Trump: That’s better.
Zucker: [Sighs]
Bush: Now, if you had to choose honestly between one of us. Me or the Donald?
Trump: I don’t know, that’s tough competition.
Zucker: That’s some pressure right there.
Bush: Seriously, if you had — if you had to take one of us as a date.
Bush: Here we go. Excellent. Well, you’ve got a nice co-star here.
Zucker: Yes, absolutely.
Trump: Good. After you.
[Break in video]
Trump: Come on, Billy, don’t be shy.
Bush: Soon as a beautiful woman shows up, he just, he takes off. This always happens.
Trump: Get over here, Billy.
Zucker: I’m sorry, come here.
Bush: Let the little guy in here, come on.
Zucker: Yeah, let the little guy in. How you feel now? Better? I should actually be in the middle.
Bush: It’s hard to walk next to a guy like this.
Zucker: Here, wait, hold on.
Bush: Yeah, you get in the middle, there we go.
Trump: Good, that’s better.
Zucker: This is much better. This is —
Trump: That’s better.
Zucker: [Sighs]
Bush: Now, if you had to choose honestly between one of us. Me or the Donald?
Trump: I don’t know, that’s tough competition.
Zucker: That’s some pressure right there.
Bush: Seriously, if you had — if you had to take one of us as a date.
Zucker: I have to take the Fifth on that one.
Bush: Really?
Zucker: Yup — I’ll take both.
Trump: Which way?
Zucker: Make a right. Here we go. [inaudible]
Bush: Here he goes. I’m gonna leave you here.
Trump: O.K.
Bush: Give me my microphone.
Trump: O.K. Oh, you’re finished?
Bush: You’re my man, yeah.
Trump: Oh, good.
Bush: I’m gonna go do our show.
Zucker: Oh, you wanna reset? O.K.
Bush: Really?
Zucker: Yup — I’ll take both.
Trump: Which way?
Zucker: Make a right. Here we go. [inaudible]
Bush: Here he goes. I’m gonna leave you here.
Trump: O.K.
Bush: Give me my microphone.
Trump: O.K. Oh, you’re finished?
Bush: You’re my man, yeah.
Trump: Oh, good.
Bush: I’m gonna go do our show.
Zucker: Oh, you wanna reset? O.K.
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@Barney
agreed. And drafter is giving me crap in the PM for not wanting to lynch GP quick last DP which is fairly scummy, I'd say.
Still- GP's guilt gives strength to Zaradi' s claim,
as scum, WP would have known to claim watch me because he knew I doc'd my own NK attempt. Zaradi's cop claims are reasonable.
As drafter points out, there's not point to a MILLER without a COP and we know everybody's claims now which means Zaradi's claim is much stronger
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I successfully DOC'd WP last night (oops)
and
I was MASON'd by Drafterman and confirm Bullish and Drafter are in a seperate PM with me.
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I predict theme will be TOWN=Games won by Mafia MAFIA=Games won by Town
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@drafterman
I concur.
I predict that WP will end up being Maynard from socialpinko's Tarantino mafia.
VTL WaterPheonix
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@David
you are permitted to cut & paste your entire PM from Lunatic in this game.
The only exception to that is "copy/pasting role PM" rule. I don't care if you do that, since every role in this game is a role that has been used before, there is no set structure to PM.
Please do so ASAP
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PRIORITIES before lynching:
We need Zaradi's DP2 Cop results
We need Vituroso's claim and both results.
GP's claim has been disproved. Would GP care to make another claim?
Did anybody visit drafter NP2?
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oromagi Marauder DOCTOR Frog
X.speedrace Hayd BELOVED Mai Valentine
PRINCESS
X.DD geographia 1xEXECUTIONERGanesh
TOWN
Bullish SolonKR VANILLA Cindy
Ragnar antidoter MILLER Bajoran
Zaradi endark COP lannan13 [CC]
Virtuoso 1htuthink
waterpnx PartamRuhem WATCHER Bugenhagen
drafterman Koopin MASON Richard Hall
iLikePie5 Nymphomaniac
Greyparrot danielle HATED TOWN (falsified) Michael Phelps
SCUM
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@WaterPhoenix
Watched oro first night and drafter 2nd, oro was visited by zaradi first night
This is consistent with my results. I doc'd myself NP1. I was roleblocked NP2- TUF explicitly confirmed roleblocked
although it seems like a waste to kill me NP1 and then RB NP2- wouldn't scum RB someone else hoping that I'd be dead?
VTL Zaradi
Also, Drafter's frantic campaign to end the DP one hour in highly suspect. All bold font is drafterman scum tell.
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1. Yes
2. No
3. No
The US and Argentina are probably the most racist nations in the Western Hemisphere but the Eastern Hemisphere- where nationality and race were more often one idea historically is more racist. China, Japan are profoundly racist. Europe and Russia are more racist. (Brexit is essentially a racist impulse). Most present int’l conflicts are explicitly racist or have a strong racist element: Congo, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia vs Iran is largely Arab vs Persian.
It is a tricky question because race and racist are such loaded fungible concepts
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hey. I am only just noticing that I wasn't lynched yesterday. It doesn't look like a lot of progress since. I don't have time to catch up now but will try 8 or 9 hrs from now.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
If you are town we need your full claim before lunatic officially closes the DP.
I full claimed in first post:
Hickory dickory DOC!
Bullish climbed up my cock.
he licked my log
cried, "tastes like FROG!"
then splooged his shorts, hard as a rock.
I am Marauder/doctor/FROG from Animal KIngdom, the very first game Archived (which is why I felt it was too obvious to reveal)
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@Discipulus_Didicit
--> @drafterman @oromagiVery well. Lunatic specifically said that copy pasting role PMs is allowed so...You are Geographia’s role from Subutai’s Hindu mafia. Your role: Geographia - You are Ganesh. Known as the "remover of obstacles", you are able to eliminate anything that stands in the way of your desires. Therefore, you are the 1x Executioner. During the day, if any player has more than half the number of votes necessary to lynch them, you may choose to have them die, ending the Day Phase as if they were actually lynched.I am sending lunatic the lynch order now. You be dead oro, might as well come clean.
I am Marauder
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@drafterman
--> @oromagiWell, that's where your math+linguistics went wrong. "limited" suggests a defined sample, not a small sample. In this case, our subset is defined by the DDO archives.Yeah, we know. So why did you decide it was necessary to point it out?
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@drafterman
--> @oromagiWell, that's where your math+linguistics went wrong. "limited" suggests a defined sample, not a small sample. In this case, our subset is defined by the DDO archives.Yeah, we know. So why did you decide it was necessary to point it out?
who's we?
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I feel comfortable ending the DP with an oro lynch now
Let's note that "now" is a lie. DD was VTL'ing me before I even joined the game, before I advised him that my claiming was anti-town.
assuming we have at least a few posts from everyone since the mass claim started and which I will check now to see whether this is the case. What do you think of just lynching oro right now?
again- only scum would benefit.
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Well, that's where your math+linguistics went wrong. "limited" suggests a defined sample, not a small sample. In this case, our subset is defined by the DDO archives.The decision to qualify the statement with the word "limited" suggests a relatively small sample.
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@drafterman
Well, its been a long time since I took a math class but I remember learning that a set could have 300 elements and still be considered limited to those 300 elements.
You would know better than I how comprehensive the list is but I don't see any of the Beginner's games- so that some 180 games right there and when I'm doing searching for names I'm finding many games that aren't in this record.
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@drafterman
I see it, but am inclined to disagree.1. Forcing people to claim a game requires more research than forcing them to claim a player. Indeed, I see no reason to fake claim a player at all unless it is a player who only played in a few games. Grey claimed Danielle. Danielle was in a ton of games. There would simply be no reason to fake claim a player.2. Yeah, they can hand pick a game that has a lot of roles, but this isn't a problem unique to this strategy. If you have a character like Danielle or me or Lunatic or someone else that was prolific, then you that necessarily comes with a ton of roles to choose from. Consider: In even the largest of Mafia games only had 20-30 people. However, players like me were in over a hundred mafia games over the years. Claiming me presents them with more role options than picking even a huge game.3. Locking people into games first, then players increases the possibility of a CC since games are fewer than players and players are necessarily unique. The reverse makes it less likely since a given player will have more games than a game will have players and games aren't necessarily unique.
roughly what I was thinking last night. but it was already too late then or now to switch
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@Discipulus_Didicit
you do know we are working with a limited set of games, right?
POST#2
"All roles can be found from games here: http://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/28126/3/"
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I agree it is a problem with the argument. In fact, I have found a few more examples of games my username was in, a couple within our subset and a couple without. I still think it would be way to obviousAnd this is the problem with oros argument. Even if very few games are found immediately upon searching for a players games that is more likely because there have just been so many games on DDO over the years and less likely because they have not played many games and their role is therefore easily indicated by their fake claim alone.
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@Barney
- Easy for scum to fake claim characters but disadvantageous for them to do so.
- No harm for town to claim just their characters, of they keep all other info hidden then their role is not recealed to scum.
- except the harm done where bullish outed the VIG first thing
- Mass character claim suggested by myself and quickly agreed to by many others for the above reasons, popcorn pattern suggested by bullish.
- Based on the last game, all scum has to do is say "tell us who you are" and half of town complies unthinking
- Oro got popcorned and refuses to claim. Tries to convince us that mass character claiming is anti-town.
That is a lie. I only declared that claiming my character is anti-town because it will make my role obv. I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything. Interesting that DD should perceive that, tho.
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He told us it was a game where he told bsh to kiss his ass, which was easy to find
and then he told he was SolonKR so that made it obvious.
I considered not saying anything but I figured scum was already on it so town should know plus he's calling on me to claim while dropping his own pants so I thought I'd make it clear. Seems a little too obviously dumb, so could be a ruse.
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@Vader
Instead of ill feelings of anger and shame,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
Instead of accusing and grousing and flame,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
Instead of troll drooling and boozing insane,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
Instead of complaining 'bout raining and pain,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
Instead of a panic of manics deranged,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
Instead of the drama of llamas enraged,
put supadudz in the hall of fame.
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa sup-pa-pa-dudz
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@Greyparrot
this is dumb. Lunatic gave me safe fake claims the 2 times I was scum in his games.
which could mean that eagerness to share claims is a tell
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I'm sure you could.
oromagi
TOWN
Bullish SolonKR VIG Alex Vause
SA antidoter MILLER BAJORAN
Zaradi endark
Supadudz 1harderthanyouthink
speedrace
waterpnx
Zaradi endark
drafterman Koopin
iLikePie5
DD geogrophia
Greyparrot danielle
SCUM
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@Discipulus_Didicit
well, so far, I've only ever found one game my DDO person ever played which means a character claim is as good as a role claim and I'd rather not role claim.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
No. It is a terrible idea. Bullish has already (accidently?) revealed himself as VIG. I think a better idea would have been to claim game, not character but I its too late now. Only claim if its going to aid town please.
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(first things first)
SupaDudz #17
huck touieegreek revolutionVTL oro
cuck toupee
geek revelation
VTL Supadudz
My character is from a game I played. In that game I told bsh1 I'll "kiss his @ss" if a single one of his scum reads were correct. I think that's where our beef really started lmao.
drafterman #13
oro is always hard to lock into an explicit claim.VTL OROFor a claim. Not a poem or song or some other "clue" but an actual, verbatim claim
This is false. In truth I lock myself into an explicit claim very early on but I try to encrypt it or disguise it somehow if I don't think I should say. But I try to make it sufficiently sensible so that the clue could not be more than one possible claim. This should lend my claim credit for early claiming while preserving uncertainty where advantageous. I think everybody should be doing it because it makes fake claiming that much more dangerous.
"always" is twice false. Just two games ago I full claimed as my one and only post because it seemed best for town.
we know drafter is aware of both of these facts so were left asking why he's lying....
I'm gonna go with drafter. I only want 2 words out of your mouth in your first post. Your character, and your role. Cause fuck you oro.
I wonder what that's about?
o well.....Bullisht, this one's 4 u....
Hickory dickory dock!
Bullish climbed up my cock.
he licked my log
cried, "tastes like frog!"
then splooged his shorts, hard as a rock.
Hey, bullish! You smell like scum!
drafterman #25--> @WaterPhoenixI said why, because he never actually claims
Again, that's a lie. I bet I claim more often than drafter in games we've both played.
Discipulus_Didicit #50Yeah, I see zero reason not to mass character claim immediately. I am Geogrophia.
I don't like it. What if your character name only played one or two games- then your role is fairly obvious, no?
drafterman #52I'm Koopin which I breadcrumbed earlier
hypocrite! KFC?
bad idea. I suspect this will give my role away quickly which I don't think we want yet.
WTF? and here I am thinking there was finally a girl on this site.
oromagi
TOWN
Bullish SolonKR VIG Alex Vause
SA antidoter MILLER BAJORAN
Zaradi endark
Supadudz 1harderthanyouthink
DD geogrophia
speedrace
waterpnx
Zaradi endark
drafterman Koopin
iLikePie5
Greyparrot danielle
SCUM
unofficial lynch estimate
Official Vote Count:
Oromagi- 2/6-Bullish,drafterman
Greyparrot- 1/6- iLikePie5
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@SirAnonymous
#107, #112, #118, #124
Drafterman then DD
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@drafterman
In games where you are town, you are more patient about repeating info because you are trying to make sure everybody's on the same page.
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oromagi
X.WaterPhoenix SUCIDE BOMB Crossbones
TOWN ROLE CLAIM
warren42 . .
Ragnar DOCTOR Scarlet Witch
drafterman ROLE BLOCKER Hawkeye .
Discipulus_Didicit COMEDIAN Tony Stark
SCUM ROLE CLAIM
Vote Count
Discipulus_Didicit - oromagi
SirAnonymous - drafterman, Lunatic
Not Voting: Ragnar, Disc, warren42, SirAnonymous
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