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I think we lynch Supa now
Tonight we VIG Warren and AROSE hides behind Mharman just for checksies
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@warren42
so somebody should have randomly gotten that info, right?
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Mharman's dragging ass again but I haven't heard anybody claim they go roleblocked
Warren should have oracle'd even tho everybody's claimed a name- if only for somebody to get the message.
Let's recall that his first oracle was on GP which could have been legitimate suspicion or scum making a believable claim.
Sup still hasn't done the least little basic town thing which would be to say " I win with the town"
I am ready to lynch Supa at any time
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Supa has posted six times and has not said the magic words
why did water watch GP?
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@drafterman
nothing like that. It's just that some players get very cautious with some roles, particularly scum roles- to the point of staying offline for long periods
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@drafterman
I know more experienced players than I disagree w/ me but I think even who is online and who is not is sometimes informative.
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Before we lynch Supa, I'd like to hear
- Who did Mharman Roleblock with what result?
- Who did AROSE hide behind with what result?
- Who did WP watch with what result?
- Who did Warren oracle with what result?
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I did make a gadget last night. To that end, EVERYBODY must make this statement in this DP ASAP or suffer consequences:
I, [insert username], win with the town.
The slower you to do this, the likelier you are scum.
I don't want to explain this further, I'm just asking that everybody who is town comply.
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@ILikePie5
How many letters have been sent?
How many letters confirmed received by correct recipient?
How many letters confirmed misdirected?
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@Greyparrot
@ILikePie5
If when I send messages, I visit the person. But at this point it’s irrelevant cause Supa claims I never sent him something, even though I did. In fact, I even told one person I sent a message to everyone I was sending something to. That person is Greyparrot. You’re welcome to ask him.
You are also welcome to ask and the more obligated but fine.... Grey?
So do I understand we now have 3 reports of letters- at least two of which were misdelivered.
How many letters have you sent? Do you have any evidence that any of the letter got where they belonged?
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@ILikePie5
I’m asking if I actually visit him, cause I have to relay my message to Speed and then he sends it to the person of my choosing. So I’m looking for clarification.
valid. altho irrelevant if Sup genuinely did not receive.
What did the message say so we can see if somebody else received it?
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@ILikePie5
I think Supa is lying. If he was PGO, I’d be dead since I delivered mail to his doorstep.
good news. I hate Supa's claim. Why would that keep us from lynching Wylted now?
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look at how quiet Wylted has become....If he was town he would know that he needs to be talking.
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TOWN
8. oromagi Tony Stark(IRON MAN) NP action (verified)
3. Ragnar Clint Barton (HAWKEYE) ODD VIGILANTE
6. Mharman mantis? (MANTIS) 50% ROLEBLOCKER
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11. A-R-O-S-E no name! (WASP) WEAK HIDER
9. drafterman no name! (HULK) BULLETPROOF
5. WaterPhoenix Heimdall (HEIMDALL) WATCHER
10. SupaDudz Nick Fury PARANOID GUN OWNER
7. warren42 Scarlet Witch ORACLE (special)
4. ILikePie5 Stan Lee (VARIOUS) 5X MAILMAN
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@ILikePie5
we need a lot more explanation than just "please don't" ATM, you are dropping in the polls
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@Barney
@A-R-O-S-E
POST 40- before u and Ragnar claimed. You actually VTL'd him for it.
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For the good of the town, I shall full claim. I am Heimdall, am a watcher, and win with town. I watched you last night a-r-o-s-e (I picked you by chance) and ragnar targeted you. I thought it was nothing, but then I thought, arose wasn't playing like scum. And so wanted to get a lynch on ragnar if no one cause we needed a lynch. But then you came along and were all like "I can block nks" so I think you blocked yourself. If you confirm you blocked yourself then we can get rid of ragnar as he was likely mafia trying to go for a nk.
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@Wylted
@Barney
You're right! Wylted did excited- as did Warren last night.
Wylted- if you are town you will gladiate right now and offer useful info which in my judgement you have not done so far.
I suspect that you won't gladiate because you can't gladiate because you are lying scum.
Let's roll
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@Barney
WATER watching: If lying, how would he know I visited?RAGNAR visiting: If lying about visiting, why?AROSE hiding: If lying about hiding, how did he survive my visit?GREY innocent: If lying about not doing anything.... Actually I don't know how this ties in, other than him being innocent if hid behind, due to hiders dying if hiding behind mafia.
I agree with this reasoning. Hence the wording. Is there some way this can all be true?
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@Wylted
I have no big reason to suspect drafter and I have a couple of ways to test his claim and my side (town) is ahead so I have time to test.
If you were town and as convinced drafter was scum as you'd say- you would use your one and only power designed for just such a situation.
The longer you delay your gladiator, the more evident your falsehood becomes.
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@Wylted
so untown
UNVOTE
VTL Wylted
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I have no objection to the Arose test of Drafter but I'd point out that Ragnar's VIG can also test Drafter DP3, if we'd like to test somebody scummier tonight.
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We should note that even though I was asking AROSE and then Warren to visit SupaDudz in the next DP2 (and we got to L-1 once) Supa actually came on, stated that he was too tired to claim and went away. When he came back this morning he offered a classic scum claim.
I suppose it is possible that Supa is that heedless of the fortunes of his fellow townies. I've seen egregious acts of carelessness from Dudz before.
Either way, his play is profoundly anti-town.
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I would like to discuss WaterP's claim that he watched Ragnar visit AROSE when AROSE was hiding behind GreyParrot.
Does town agree that there must be a lie in here somewhere?
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TOWN
8. oromagi Tony Stark(IRON MAN) NP action (verified)
3. Ragnar Clint Barton (HAWKEYE) ODD VIGILANTE
6. Mharman mantis? (MANTIS) 50% ROLEBLOCKER
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11. A-R-O-S-E no name! (WASP) WEAK HIDER
9. drafterman no name! (HULK) BULLETPROOF
5. WaterPhoenix Heimdall (HEIMDALL) WATCHER
10. SupaDudz Nick Fury PARANOID GUN OWNER
7. warren42 Scarlet Witch ORACLE (special)
At this point, I can be talked into lynching anybody below Mharman
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@drafterman
ATTENTION: This is a counter claim. Drafterman’s bulletproof claim is BS. Why? Because I am Mantis,, a town 50/50 role-blocker. Last night I roleblocked Drafterman, stopping the NK.VTL Drafterman
This is the statement Ragnar lie detected as TRUE He said he was town
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For the good of the town, I shall full claim. I am Heimdall, am a watcher, and win with town. I watched you last night a-r-o-s-e (I picked you by chance) and ragnar targeted you. I thought it was nothing, but then I thought, arose wasn't playing like scum. And so wanted to get a lynch on ragnar if no one cause we needed a lynch. But then you came along and were all like "I can block nks" so I think you blocked yourself. If you confirm you blocked yourself then we can get rid of ragnar as he was likely mafia trying to go for a nk.
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@warren42
Final thoughts for the night:- Drafter is still probably scum and speed is probably trying to cover what was a big mistake- If Supa is scum he’s probably a godfather- At this point I think we do a mass claim and play the claim game- Not entirely convinced Wylted is town. Feel like he would’ve used his gladiator power by now if so. Scum gladiator has more reason to be concerned than town.That said, my reads look vaguely like thistownWater, Arose, Mharman, Greytown leanoroscumdrafter
So, Mharman's confirmed town because Ragnar & Oro worked together to lie detect him, but Oro's lean town and Rangar's null.
Pie has not played or claimed anything but Warren trusts him enough to give him his Oracle and has no suspicions now. Why?
Why wouldn't Warren offer to Oracle Pie as the only unnamed player?
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@drafterman
when exactly? as soon as you arrived or ?
Can you give us the exact text?That would be against the rules. Why are you trying to get me to mod kill myself?
Is it? isn't this a message from another player? and no
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@drafterman
I got a message about being someone's top town read and that instructions would follow. The message said not to reveal this until the message giver died and people asked for it.Problem is, I don't think I'm anyone's top town read (save Grey, who isn't a message giver). So I'm revealing this because I think it's evidence that there is a redirector or something, which town needs to know.As far as the NK is concerned, either they tried to target AROSE but it failed because they hid or they tried to target me and it failed because I'm BP. What I find odd is that, if AROSE successfully hid, how was Water able to watch him? AROSE' role says that night actions fail if he successfully hides.So either he didn't hide, which raises the question of why Ragnar's action failed, or he did hide, which raises the question of why Water's role didn't fail.
When did you get this message? Can you give us the exact text?
I think your question about AROSE is very valuable. I'm going back to WP's claim now.
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@warren42
OK, thanks for that.
We have everybody's name except Pie.
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@drafterman
Which says precisely nothing about his affiliation.At this point, we can effectively take people's character/role claims at face value. All of this nonsense about people confirming their roles is completely pointless.
except that Supa and Pie are still withholding. I suppose there might be a scum ORACLE or similar thing that might duplicate but it seems less likely and dangerous to claim. Warren is still a little vague about exactly how his oracle thing works but I doubt an effective mafia role would be to confirm one town and send that confirmation to another town and mafia just has to hope he hears about it.
As you say, I'm prepared to take Warren's claim at face value until Supa, Pie, and Wylted improve their position.
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@warren42
If you tell us(or rather pick someone else to tell us) Supadudz role before Supadudz, then we will know you are ORACLE
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8. oromagi Tony Stark(IRON MAN) NP action (verified)
3. Ragnar Clint Barton (HAWKEYE) ODD VIGILANTE
11. A-R-O-S-E no name! (WASP) WEAK HIDER
7. warren42 Scarlet Witch ORACLE (special)
9. drafterman no name! (HULK) BULLETPROOF
5. WaterPhoenix Heimdall (HEIMDALL) WATCHER
6. Mharman mantis? (MANTIS) 50% ROLEBLOCKER
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@drafterman
I like Nick Furry better- the bunny tail takes a bit of the edge off.
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@warren42
I not only read it, I explained it correctly in post #255 which you must have missed
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PEOPLE! This is just the kind of town hall bickering that scum is counting on.
Warren has accepted that GreyParrot is now confirmed town. His suspicions last night were valid and shared by other townspeople.
Greyparrot needs to accept that Warren acknowledges he now town. Greyparrot- we can confirm Warren tonight if he will oracle Supadudz.
Let's focus on lynching somebody for whom we don't have any plan or information.
Right now, that is Pie and only Pie.
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hysteria and fake news will be the death of town yet
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@A-R-O-S-E
will you hide Pie for the reasons stated above?
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@warren42
A. Why haven't you told us your game name + supername yet?
B. Will you oracle SupaDudz for the reasons I explained above?
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