oromagi

What is hilarious is that Facebook and Google algorithms have not managed to figure out my political persuasion yet.

1. Where do you get your information from? What news channels are you watching, what publications are you reading, etc.?

2. How do you go about vetting the information you consume?

3. How exactly do you identify when you think someone else is not “thinking for themselves”?

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I think because of the connotations of the word 'homicide' (not necessarily the definition, although the Google definition from Oxford Languages says the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another; murder.) that it would only further erode the discourse centered around the issue of police-related deaths because it seems to project guilt.

I don't see what value that could be brought by including every death that remotely involves police action.

At some point, you're creating a meaningless stat that cannot be used to speculate about officer use of force and (in this case) are including data that only simply points out how morbidly obese our nation is.

But who is to say that the newspapers are accurately recording the death while the coroners are wrong?

The paper has an issue that there are no state or federal standards about reporting police-related deaths, while neglecting that newspapers have no uniform standards either.

We can agree that there should be some marking that police were involved. I suppose my issue was mainly regarding the terminology that they proposed using and the subjectivity of the paper as to what to include. But if it isn't classified as "homicide" and is related to whether or not an injury occurred, there should be some accountability there. Because whether or not the cop injured someone is pretty objective. Whether or not the cop was the cause of death is much murkier.

Now that  Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska has been arrested, they might find the pee tapes.

• Deripaska was not arrested.  I think the last time Deripaska was allowed in US was 2016 although he has been more or less under criminal investigation in US since 2007
  
• The US Treasury sanctioned Deripaska in 2018 for "threatening the lives of business rivals, illegally wiretapping a  US govt official, and taking part in extortion and racketeering"
  
• At Trump's request, sanctions were lifted against Deripaska's Rusal, an import US supplier of Aluminum
  
• At Trump's request, Deripaska was allowed to transfer US assets (the two houses searched yesterday included) to his children
  
• Deripaska is one of Putin's favorite oligarchs but that really suggests a separate power base.  Deripaska was not likely involved in an intel ops to compromise US presidential candidates, including the pee tapes
  
• That said, Navalny did release a tape just before his imprisonment  suggesting that Deripaska served as a conduit for Putin communications to the Trump campaign via Deripaska and then Manafort
  
• An ex-girlfriend/favorite prostitute of Deripaska claims to have 16 hrs of audio tape linking Deripaska directly to US election planning which she is willing to exchange for freedom from a Bangkok prison on drug charges.  No deal has been made and the claim unverified
  
• So although Deripaska is officially sanctioned for US crimes, he is still allowed to own a lot of US assets and do a lot of business with US business
  

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The issue seems that there is a lot of subjectivity in this.

A couple examples:

- a fat guy runs from cops and collapses and dies of a heart attack

-a man charges cops with a knife and gets tasered. He dies of cardiac arrest

Should these be considered police deaths because they were to some extent involved?

Furthermore, I don’t see what value is to be gained by labeling them all homicides because, as it says, there are justified homicides. If the police are justifiably killing people, yet this study fails to differentiate that, then it seems more like a partisan-motivated study than anything to say that cops are killing a lot of people.

Police killings in America have been undercounted by more than half over the past four decades, according to a new study that raises pointed questions about racial bias among medical examiners and highlights the lack of reliable national record keeping on what has become a major public health and civil rights issue.

The study, conducted by researchers at the University of Washington and published on Thursday in The Lancet, a major British medical journal, amounts to one of the most comprehensive looks at the scope of police violence in America, and the disproportionate impact on Black people.

Researchers compared information from a federal database known as the National Vital Statistics System, which collects death certificates, with recent data from three organizations that track police killings through news reports and public records requests. When extrapolating and modeling that data back decades, they identified a startling discrepancy: About 55 percent of fatal encounters with the police between 1980 and 2018 were listed as another cause of death.

The findings reflect both the contentious role of medical examiners and coroners in obscuring the real extent of police violence, and the lack of centralized national data on an issue that has caused enormous upheaval. Private nonprofits and journalists have filled the gap by mining news reports and social media.

“I think the big takeaway is that most people in public health tend to take vital statistics for the U.S. and other countries as the absolute truth, and it turns out, as we show, the vital statistics are missing more than half of the police violence deaths,” said Dr. Christopher Murray, the director of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington, which conducted the study.

He continued: “You have to look for why those deaths that are being picked up by the open-source investigations, looking in the media and elsewhere, aren’t showing up in the official statistics. That does point to the system of medical examiners and the incentives that may exist for them to want to not classify a death as related to police violence.”

Researchers estimated that over the time period they studied, which roughly tracks the era of the war on drugs and the rise of mass incarceration, nearly 31,000 Americans were killed by the police, with more than 17,000 of them going unaccounted for in the official statistics. The study also documented a stark racial gap: Black Americans were 3.5 times as likely to be killed by the police as white Americans were. Data on Asian Americans was not included in the study, but Latinos and Native Americans also suffered higher rates of fatal police violence than white people.

The annual number of deaths in police custody has generally gone upward since 1980, even as crime — notwithstanding a rise in homicides last year amid the dislocations of the coronavirus pandemic — has declined from its peak in the early 1990s.

The states with the highest rates of police killings were Oklahoma, Arizona and Alaska, as well as the District of Columbia, while the states with the lowest rates were Massachusetts, Connecticut and Minnesota, according to the study.

Researchers estimated that about 20 times as many men as women were killed by the police over the past several decades; more American men died in 2019 during police encounters than from Hodgkin lymphoma or testicular cancer.]

Unexplained or violent deaths in the United States are investigated by coroners or medical examiners, who use autopsies, toxicology tests and evidence like body camera footage to determine the cause and manner of death. The death certificate does not specifically ask whether the police were involved — which may contribute to the undercount identified by the study — but many medical examiners are trained to include that information.

The system has long been criticized for fostering a cozy relationship with law enforcement — forensic pathologists regularly consult with detectives and prosecutors and in some jurisdictions they are directly employed by police agencies.

Yet pathologists have also complained on occasion that law enforcement does not provide them with all relevant information, that they have been pressured to change their opinions, or that coroners, who are usually elected and are not always required to have a medical degree, can and do overrule their findings.

The researchers found that some of the misclassified deaths occurred because medical examiners failed to mention law enforcement’s involvement on the death certificate, while others were improperly coded in the national database.

While The Lancet study did not mention specific cases, there have been recent examples where the initial findings of coroners or medical examiners downplayed or omitted the role of the police when a Black man was killed: Ronald Greene’s death in Louisiana, for instance, was attributed by the coroner to cardiac arrest and classified as accidental before video emerged of him being stunned, beaten and dragged by state troopers.

In Aurora, Colo., the manner of Elijah McClain’s death was ruled undetermined after the police put him in a chokehold and paramedics injected him with ketamine, a powerful sedative. Almost two years later, three officers and two paramedics were indicted.

Even in the case of George Floyd, whose agonizing last breaths under a Minneapolis police officer’s knee were captured on bystander video, the police and the county medical examiner first pointed to drug use and underlying health conditions.

The National Association of Medical Examiners encourages the classification of deaths caused by law enforcement as homicides, in part to reduce the appearance of a cover-up (a homicide may still be deemed justified). But classification guidelines differ from office to office, and there are no national standards.

Roger Mitchell Jr., a former chief medical examiner of Washington, D.C., and an expert on investigating deaths in custody, has long said that death certificates should include a checkbox indicating whether a death occurred in custody, including arrest-related deaths as well as those in jails and prisons.

As long as medical examiners are not specifically asked to include that information, he said, he would not jump to conclusions about why they do not do so: “If it’s a function of training, a function of bias, a function of institutional and structural racism — all the things we can assume — we can identify that once we have a uniform system.”

A federal law passed in 2014 requiring law enforcement agencies to report deaths in custody has yet to produce any public data.

The paper’s top-line findings are similar to the results of a more narrow study conducted at Harvard in 2017 that examined one year — 2015 — and compared official death statistics in the United States with data on police killings compiled by The Guardian.

“It’s highlighting the persistent problem of undercounting of killings by police in official data sources, one of those being mortality data,” said Justin Feldman, a research fellow at Harvard who conducted the 2017 study and was a peer reviewer on the paper published on Thursday in The Lancet.

“This is an ongoing issue that we are still, after all these years, not doing a very good of keeping track of people killed by police,” he added.

The study lands at a time when America has grappled with one high-profile police killing of a Black man after another. But, as the study showed, there are tens of thousands of other deaths that remain in the shadows.

Rulings on the cause and manner of death strongly influence whether criminal charges are brought or whether families receive a civil settlement. The death of Mr. Floyd was classified as a homicide and the death certificate cited law enforcement restraint, but the medical examiner still faced criticism after prosecutors made public his preliminary findings that underlying health conditions and drug use had contributed.

The former chief medical examiner of Maryland, Dr. David Fowler, was also criticized after he testified on behalf of the Minneapolis police officer, saying Mr. Floyd’s death was caused by several factors and was not a homicide.

After an open letter by Dr. Mitchell said that Dr. Fowler’s testimony revealed “obvious bias,” Maryland’s attorney general began a review of in-custody deaths that were handled under Dr. Fowler’s tenure.

Dr. Murray of the University of Washington said that one of the starkest findings was that racial disparities in police shootings have widened since 2000.

The trend contrasts, he said, with other health outcomes, such as heart disease, in which the racial gap has narrowed in recent years.

The study, he and other researchers said, points to the need for a centralized clearinghouse for data on police violence, as well as more scrutiny of coroners and medical examiners.

“There’s been an attempt to limit the reality of what is,” said Edwin G. Lindo, a scholar of critical race theory and professor at the University of Washington School of Medicine, who examined the findings of the study but was not involved in putting it together. “And what I would suggest is, when we don’t have good data we can’t actually make good policy decisions, and I don’t know if that’s an accident for it to be so greatly underreported.”

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Dershowitz admits to stripping down to his underwear and receiving massages from girls at the NY home of his client, Jeffrey Epstein.  At least one underage girl claims to have performed at least on massage on Dershowitz.  That's strikingly similar to Michael Jackson's defense that he kept his underwear on the whole time. 

I think his wife also got a massage there and not from a minor. I talked to the guy, and I believe him. His book can be read in one sitting and gives a whole different perspective than the sensationalized ones I b the media.

The minor claiming to have massaged him is working with a crooked law firm, is mentally ill and unfortunately is probably just a pawn for her lawyers to black mail billionaires out of millions who would rather pay up than have their names associated with Epstien.  

Michael Jackson was a naive child in a grown up body so he looked like  a molester but was in fact innocent.

He was also the greatest musical sensation to ever walk the face of the earth and

you should apologize for jumping on the bandwagon to smear him. 

You seem to be concerned the KGB was doing that with Trump,

have you looked into this mossad angle? 

By the way, dershowitz book is free on Amazon so there is no excuse not to get his side of the story. Also he is easy to get ahold of and I cab PM you details of how if you have follow up questions after you do your due diligence on the claims in his book. 

You fell for a conspiracy theory because you are dumb enough to just randomly believe any negative thing said about politicians whose policies you disagree with 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2017/01/13/the-trump-dossier-is-false-news-and-heres-why/?sh=431e6b0a6867

 Derschowitz was also accused of similar outlandish things.

A law suit filed in 2016 accussed Donald Trump (along with billionaire Jeffrey Epstein) of raping a 13 year old girl in 1994 at a party at Epstein’s place.

• This claim seems to be corroborated regarding Trump at least by US Attorney Alex Acosta's inexplicably lax plea agreement exonerating Epstein in 2008 and Acosta's otherwise inexplicable appointment by Trump to the position of US Secretary of Labor
  

Of all the things I feel makes Trump a poor boss an unethical buisness man and an incompetent public servant that he allegedly paid for sex or enjoyed an unorthodox kink are entirely immaterial. So long as inky concerning adults are involved I don't think there is anything wrong with any of that. 

I mean maybe there is some benefit in letting people know you don't want to be pissed on. Imagine if that wasn't clear prior to a sexual encounter. by bringing it up repeatedly he can ensure the next time he hires a whore for sex,  she  won't try to get creative by pissing on him. 

Why are we kink shaming anyway? 

• Seven sources reported the event independent of each other
  
• Trump is known more making rather elaborate displays of his hatred for Obama
  
• Trump is known for hiring prostitutes when he is travelling without his wife and family
  
• Prostitutes are readily, famously available from the lobby of the Ritz-Carlton.
  
• Russian Intelligence has demonstrated control over operations in the Ritz-Carlton Moscow.
  
• Earlier the same year, Trump visited "The Act," a Las Vegas strip club owned by Russian friends of Putin, along with those friends and several close associates including his lawyer, Michael Cohen.  Cohen has testified under oath that Trump delighted in a staged display of golden showers
  
• The Act was closed later the same year for violating Las Vegas' decency and sanitation regulations and was well known for a golden showers act
  
• Paparazzi confirm that Trump and his Russian friends closed the club and remained inside for several hours
  
• The same Russian friends were staying at the Ritz-Carlton Moscow on the night of the alleged pee tape
  
• On Oct 30, 2016- the day before the Steele Dossier went public, Trump's real estate agent in Moscow working on the Trump Tower deal texts Michael Cohen:
  
• stopped flow of tapes from Russia but not sure if there's anything else. Just so you know ..
  
• Cohen has testified that he discussed the tapes with Trump long before any public information emerged although Cohen mostly asserts attorney/client privilege regarding details
  
• Trump's bodyguard Keith Schiller has confirmed that Russian business associates offered Trump the company of five prostitutes on the night in question.  Schiller claims to have rejected the offer on Trump's behalf but this corroborates the dossier's number of prostitutes.
  
• James Comey relates in his book that Trump was obsessed with the pee tape and asked him to publicly refute that specific event on at least four different occasions during Comey's short tenure.  Comey notes that Trump was in possession of several details regarding the event that were not pubic knowledge..
  
• The Mueller Report confirms that all through 2016, Trump's people were highly interested in an incriminating tape possessed by Russia, long before any public allegation of a tape emerged but offers no insight towards the content of that tape
  
• Israeli and Australian Intelligence agencies confirm they were tracking the same allegation before the Steele Dossier emerged
  
• Trump himself keeps talking about the event in public and unprompted, indeed in highly inappropriate settings like two days ago- evidence of a guilty conscience
  
• Trump's frequent denials are suspiciously off-point
  
• Before it was confirmed that Trump paid Stormy Daniels hush money just before the election, Trump's go-to denial was "Do I look like a man who needs to buy a prostitute?"  Not a denial.
  
• After Stormy, Trump switched to "I'm a germaphobe, I wouldn't let anybody pee on me" Since the Dossier in no way suggests that Trump was anything but a spectator, this is also not a denial.
  
• Trump has never directly denied the accusation
  

• Russian Intelligence, like Trump, is famous for adding layers of bullshit until it is difficult to determine what is true and what is not
  
• Steele himself is highly suspicious of all Russian sources and estimates the likelihood of truth at  only 50/50
  
• Trump's contacts with Russian agents goes back to 1980's at least.  Judging by the little financial information that has been disclosed so far, Russia seems to have been pretty deep in Trump's pockets by 2008- so why create new Kompromat in 2013?
  
• A fake videotape was created in 2016, apparently with the knowledge of Russian Intel. Maybe Russia was just adding to the maskarova or maybe Russia was just trying to make a quick buck off of Trump or someone else?  Hard to say.
  
• No authentic tape has emerged
  

Donald Trump denied ever enjoying "golden showers" during a posh Thursday event with Republican donors, defending himself against years-old allegations that he hired two Moscow prostitutes to urinate on a bed together. 

"I'm not into golden showers," Trump said at a National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) retreat, which hosted sitting senators. "You know the great thing, our great first lady – 'That one,' she said, 'I don't believe that one.'"

Trump's remarks, first reported by The Washington Post, are a clear reference to allegations first floated in 2016 when British spy Christopher Steele released a dossier probing Trump's alleged collusion with Russia to undermine Hillary Clinton's candidacy in the 2016 election. Steele's dossier reportedly contained a video – now colloquially known as the "pee tape" – that shows Trump instructing two prostitutes at Moscow's Ritz-Carlton Hotel to urinate on a bed that President Obama had previously slept on. The video was allegedly taped as part of surveillance done by FSB, Russia's main state security agency, and had been lightly corroborated by a number of Steele's sources who had second-hand knowledge of the dossier, according to The New Yorker. 

Ex-FBI Director James Comey, who in 2017 testified about the Trump campaign's alleged relationship with Russia, wrote in his book that the former president was fixated on the rumor, dead set on dispelling it from the national discourse.

"I'm a germaphobe," Trump reportedly told Comey, per the book. "There's no way I would let people pee on each other around me. No way."

In 2018, Comey told ABC News back that he couldn't be sure whether the rumor was true. "I honestly never thought these words would come out of my mouth, but I don't know whether the current President of the United States was with prostitutes peeing on each other in Moscow in 2013," the ex-FBI director said. "It's possible, but I don't know."

Besides dredging up old rumors unprompted, Trump reportedly cast himself as the "GOP's savior" during Thursday's event, stressing that he has held the party together over the past several years. "It was a dying party, I'll be honest," he said, according to the Post. "Now we have a very lively party." 

The former president also castigated a number of his Republican detractors, including Sens. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, and Ben Sasse, R-Neb, stressing that the party needs to "stick together" rather than splinter off into pro and anti-Trump factions. 

Later, Trump reportedly reiterated his equally baseless conspiracy that the 2020 presidential election was "stolen" by President Biden, telling the crowd that Democrats "cheat like hell."

"It's a terrible thing what they did in Georgia and other states," he said. "You look at Texas, you look at a lot of states — they are correcting all the ways we were all abused over the last election ... last two elections if you think about it."

There continues to be no significant evidence that the 2020 election was marred by outcome-altering fraud.

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liberalism is dying oromagi. Quite frankly biden only won the nomination because Obama is a golden boy and he was associated with him. 

The future of the republican and democrat party is anti democratic and the winner will take all, both slides eroding your liberal values until it becomes merely a faint memory. 

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All loyal Republicans are instructed by Dear Leader to sit out the next two elections.

Why aren't democrats leaning into this. Other than the risk of political violence. Republicans thinking their votes don't matter, means less will vote. It will help liberals win elections. 

you do realize that an oppressive totalitarian regime always precedes the communist state. I think Marx wrote a lot about this. 

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Technically, they should not be equated in theory, but they are correlated in practice. Ideally, communism is community control of the means of production. It can work in small contexts, as in communes— which, ironically, can exist just fine in free, capitalist countries.

Totalitarianism rears its ugly head when communism is employed on a large scale, mainly because of human nature. Larger populations have to be coerced into sharing wealth, for one. The leaders at the top tend to hoard and protect their wealth and power, for another.

Are you saying that the educational strategies of the largest teacher union in the nation are not being taught in public schools?

Donald Trump warned that Republican voters will stay home in the 2022 midterm election and the 2024 presidential election unless the GOP fully embraces the lie that Trump beat President Joe Biden in 2020.

“If we don’t solve the Presidential Election Fraud of 2020...Republicans will not be voting in ’22 or ’24,” Trump said in a statement on Wednesday. “It is the single most important thing for Republicans to do.”

The twice-impeached former president has routinely spouted debunked claims of election fraud in the months since leaving office, even after the violent Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.

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I hope I scared the shit out of you. 

Had to read that grade school essay from Maher just to come to that infantile conclusion? Maher is senile; declined to fourth grade. Scared? Laughing my ass off.

Hillaryous Balloon Girl spins better stories than that.

“There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured with what is right in America.”

Maher also predicted “We need to have a recession in order to get rid of Trump.” Turned out to be true, but he isn’t exactly boasting it from the rooftops, nor am I wondering why not. I sincerely hope this prediction is remembered in 2024 no matter what happens.

I’ll make my own prediction:  the DNC will do everything it can to make sure mail in voting becomes a continued— even permanent fixture in the election process…

I think Trump will be in hospice in two years. It will have something to do with him trying to write Melania and Barron out of his will.

Where is your evidence that trump is planning this?

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If the Trump supporters on this site were bank fraudsters - you could write all your bank details in that post and not lose a penny.

As the Atlantic Monthly article demonstrated, CRT did not exist in the American conversation until Fox News put it there last summer. FOX News is the origin point for your misconceptions about CRT, whether or not you know it.

Again, this assertion of yours is both baseless and untrue. I have been studying CRT for the past few years. I can't put an exact date on when it popped up on my radar, but it was well before last summer. If Fox News did not start talking about before last summer, then it cannot possibly be the source of my "misconceptions" about CRT.

Last September, an obscure, 36-year-old documentarian named Christopher Rufo landed a slot on Tucker Carlson Tonight. Knowing the president would be watching, he sounded the alarm about an ideology almost as obscure as he was: “critical race theory.” Rufo, who describes the theory as the notion that the United States was “founded on white supremacy and oppression,” begged Donald Trump to take action. Critical race theory, he warned, had become “the default ideology of the federal bureaucracy.” The next morning, Rufo got a call from Mark Meadows, the president’s chief of staff; just a few days later, the White House issued a bizarre memo instructing public agencies to root out the theory from government trainings.

In the months since Rufo’s TV appearance, roughly a dozen states from Idaho to Tennessee have passed or considered legislation banning critical race theory from schools and government institutions. Almost overnight, Rufo has become the standard-bearer for a hysterical movement to solve a problem that may not even exist—and in the process, charted a course for the right in the Biden era. With a likable moderate in the White House, the task for operatives like Rufo is to gin up evidence of an overwhelming conspiracy everywhere else, convincing voters that the left has taken over the school and the workplace.

That may be your argument. And I am simply making the point that you don't have to teach the theory of CRT in order to train children to see the world as defined by CRT.

And it is this critical praxis that is the cause for many parents pulling their kids out of school. While they may not articulate it clearly, that is a good reason.

But when "raising awareness/consciousness" means training children to see oppression of non-whites by whites in pretty much everything, with the goal of tearing down the alleged systems of oppression, then your statement doesn't seem so innocent.

Raising children's consciousness about racism is a necessary part of American learning. I don't know how you teach American history, society, literature, etc. without raising consciousness about racism in America.

There is the game. You are misusing the term racism in order to insert your foreign definition into the conversation.

I have no objection to teaching (high school) children how to identify the means of oppression and how to non-violently dismantle those mean.

Is the Constitution a system of oppression?

I could not have been more clear on this, I don't know why you are pretending otherwise. I said:

"....you are mis-characterizing anti-racist speech as CRT."

"Anti-racist" as defined by who?

I don't read/watch Fox News so this accusation is completely baseless and untrue.

Then why are we still playing the game where you pretend that you don't understand exactly what I am talking about when I use specific terminology and phrases in this statement:

• "But you and I both know that teachers are engaged in praxis that is founded upon the ideology of CRT. So even if they are not teaching the particulars of the theory, they are encouraging students to reflect in order to raise consciousness of their oppressed existence. This consciousness raising serves as a revolutionary call to action to further identify systems of oppression in order to dismantle them."
  

if you can identify a different ideology or framework that would be a more plausible foundation than CRT for the above points that are currently being taught in public schools, I would be happy to hear it.

• My understanding is that Biden essentially maintained Trump's border policy with 2 major (and popularly supported) exceptions:
  
• Ended child separation policies and worked to restore hundreds of children to their parents
  
• Abruptly halted work on the unnecessary and expensive border wall
  
• I think Biden expected migration to decrease once potential migrants understood that Biden would not expand asylum provisions or lessen resources at intercepting illegal crossing.
  
• But demand for illegal immigration is at an all time high due to the pandemic and the record high demand for labor
  
• I've said many times that I think illegal immigration could be quickly and compassionately controlled by killing demand.  Arrest a few prominent employers of illegal immigrants and employers would stop taking the risk, pronto.  We know that Trump still employs some illegal immigrants for his groundskeeping crews, according to WashPo.  Put Trump in jail for a few nights and he'd do more the end illegal immigration than all the walls ever built on the Southern border.
  

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To be clear, you are saying that human trafficking, brutal bullying and degradation, genocide and profiting from slave labour (in the Caribbean that already began during his era, he inspired the concept of slavery amongst the invaders) are things you're fine with.

He also took a much larger degree of credit for the discoveries than he deserved. He accidentally came ashore to the Caribbean islands which he was sure was part of India and later to the shore that he thought was India 'for real' (the US). 

Before you say that I'm twisting your words here, if something is only wrong in 'modern eyes' it means you think at some point that was completely fine to be doing. Do I understand you correctly?

In that email, Alvarez allegedly identified Memorial Park, near the home, as a “ritualistic satanic ground to conduct abortions by the manner of magic” and said he was “executing and exterminating the pro-choice Jewish Satan worshippers” by going after the Kaufmanns.

“The defendant’s belief was ‘to end the Satanic activity’ near the crime scene (Memorial Park) and acted out his manifesto by killing and shooting the Kaufmanns and by mentally fabricating the connection he believed the four corner houses on Raynor and Copper to have been involved in ‘satanic activity,’ because of their relative geographic location to the park,” an EPPD officer wrote in the affidavit.

The alleged killer also referred to the couple as members of the “Jewish Satanist Party” and expressed a desire to “stop all murder of babies.”

• I, for one, am not a fan of judging historical figures by modern standards.
  
• I can't help but admire Columbus' feats of navigation, leadership, and bold exploration.
  
• To choose to go a way that no man has gone before, to achieve it, document it, repeat it  and then profit by it- those are qualities to admire in any explorer in any time.

I am not ultimately arguing about whether public schools are "teaching Critical Race Theory" or not.   While I believe they are to a certain degree as shown by my questions, we could go back and forth continually trying to argue that point. But that's what you want, isn't it? Because there is perhaps some truth in your argument that schools, on a large scale at least, are not "teaching Critical Race Theory" as a theory in total.

[Critical Race] Theory soon stood in for anything resembling an examination of America’s history with race. Conservatives would boil it down further: Critical race theory taught Americans to hate America. Today, across the country, school curricula and workplace trainings include materials that defenders and opponents alike insist are inspired by critical race theory but that academic critical race theorists do not characterize as such.

Fox News gave only passing thought to critical race theory until last year. .... after Derek Chauvin was captured on video kneeling on George Floyd’s neck for more than nine minutes, and the United States became awash in anti-racist reading lists—some of which included books and articles that discussed critical race theory—Fox suddenly took a great interest in the idea. It became the latest in a long line of racialized topics (affirmative action perhaps being the most prominent) that the network has jumped on. Since June 5, 2020, the phrase has been invoked during 150 broadcasts.

But you and I both know that teachers are engaged in praxis that is founded upon the ideology of CRT.

So even if they are not teaching the particulars of the theory, they are encouraging students to reflect in order to raise consciousness of their oppressed existence.

This consciousness raising serves as a revolutionary call to action to further identify systems of oppression in order to dismantle them.

So placing the focus of the argument on whether schools are "teaching CRT" is simply a distraction of definitions

while students are continually being subjected to critical praxis, turning them into little social justice revolutionaries. But you already knew that, didn't you?

Trump is the new Hitler.

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Really?  I didn't even know it was happening. 

As to this faux; sorry, don't know who that is.

Now, with the added advantage of hindsight, why do you think a (former) president such as Trump has such intense loyalty among his supporters?