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@MisterChris
By the way, I know for a fact Drafterman was a town.
i heavily town read u so i believe ur claim
if u vouch for drafterman/ragnar i gotchu
that leaves my only scumread as oro rn
oro should fully claim
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imma head to the skate prk in a bit ill be back sometime later
this weekend ill be at my uncles house on sat so i wont have a pc or nothin so ill try an keep up on my phone
just giving yall a heads up
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@Vader
I did ask Seldiora if he felt threatened and he did say no he didn't.
if u vouch on that i believe ya
ive known rm since i first got to the site he aint a bad dude or nothing
i didnt know what happened at first but honestly after doing some digging rm is right there's no good reason for his ban
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@MisterChris
This, with a blunt
lmao
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@Intelligence_06
what are ur current reads please be more active
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@SirAnonymous
That leaves me, you, drafter/ragnar, chris, and oro for this DP
out of those people i suspsect drafter/ragnar an oro the most
the rest of yall i townread for now
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i dont recall having ragnar as scum before so idk what his strat normally is but i already town read him last dp
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@SirAnonymous
I guess it's possible, but I don't see drafter leaving because he wasn't getting his way as scum. Then again, I didn't see him leaving, period.
man i didnt either but if i had to guess which scenario made more sense the scum one does especially when u combine it with the two other things ive mentioned
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@Barney
cum have the power to kill people who annoy them. Had he been scum, he would have killed Lunatic at night, then passed it off as mafia trying to frame him.
fair enough
Further, were I in the scum team what would my reborn tactic be?
i wasnt really speaking in regards to ur reincarnated version of drafter an more of as an analysis of drafters play
when it comes to u bro i got no idea
Consider how easily I could twist information gained as a watcher
u died dp one an i dont think u got results in the first dp unless u got hella lucky
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combine all 3 things together an u start to see a scummish pattern
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something that ive been thinking about in regards to draft,
him getting hella pissed off at lunatic makes more sense if he was scum
lets look at both scenarios
Scenario: Drafter is town
in this scenario drafter wouldve been so pissed off an blocked lunatic an quit the site all over being pissed about waiting two days
this scenario makes little sense but is possible prolly at a 30 % chance
Scenario: Drafter is scum
this scenario drafter wouldve been pissed that things werent going his way an the lynch wasnt being rushed. this also explains his eagerness to lynch anyone later on in the dp when he kept flip flopping between me an oro. Drafters arguments failed an he got ticked an blocked lunatic. Than leaving the site.
In my opinion the incident with drafter makes more sense if he was scum an combined with his bandwagoning behavior last dp it alligns
id like to also mention that the experiment he pulled on me coulda easily been him trying to start up a wagon he possibly put the pressure off of me an claimed it was an experiment to gain some town cred
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@oromagi
drafterman was fake claiming BOMB
what post #?
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@oromagi
That leaves Mister and Sir, and kinky is, um, a SCUM tell but also these are the two who have given no info of any kind and therefore most likely to be scum.
ight well if u had to choose between one or the other who'd u choose
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just to be clear my top scum read is still drafterman/ragnar
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@oromagi
Maybe? Not seen him as scum. That said, I want to see what some of the other veterans like Lunatic have to say about this.
ive had oro as scum before in my very first game actually
in that game he was lurky an distant kinda like in this game
whearas as when hes town hes far more involved
He also admitted himself that he sucks as scum which would make sense cuz of the mistake he made earlier
aint gonna lie this feels like scum oro but im honestly unsure
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@SirAnonymous
Did drafter just leave the site over a mafia argument with Lunatic?
basically
no idea why tho the argument they have wasnt even hostile it was mostly just a heated argument
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@ILikePie5
Lmao that would take forever to tell - anything specific?
how about u tell me an interesting story that happened to u
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So yeah, either you are not free, or you are in chaos.
chaos is the natural order
anarchism is the ONLY political ideology that guarantees the freedom of the people
Capitalism - ruled by the wealthy
Communism - ruled by the government
Anarchism - rules by the people
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I only have a slight scum read on you, but that's more than I have on anyone else.
idk unless i get more evidence im gonna stick with a VTNL
dont get me wrong i suspect drafterman too but not enough to make the risk of 3 townies dieing worth it rn
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You should always be pushing for a lynch on a scum read.
lol than why arent u doing the same?
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@drafterman
unless u believe supa an intel are lieing voting for me is anti town
if u believe the lovers claim voting for me would lead to a MYLO
u cant have both
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Drafterman is my top scum read rn for bandwagoning an trying to rush a lynch
voting for oro #367, than a few posts later... #388
leads me to believe he might be scum. not 100 % but its possible. If thats the case im unsure of who their partner is.
intel an supa i townread an i do believe their lover claim
intel is pretty lurky, jumped on wagons, an isnt answering questions. but imma assume this to be noobish town than noobish scum
intel on his own
but i townread supa an the lover claim so unless supa flips scum i townread intel
im also gonna lump chris into my town pile
ive seen chris in his games an town chris acts exactly like this by being helpful an contributing
never seen chris as scum though so who knows
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@Lunatic
sorry about that i was busy most of the day
so far im almost caught up an ill give my current reads sometime tonight
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@Intelligence_06
1. Again, I have planned to vote first but for some dumb non-luck Drafterman voted before me.
Excuses
at the time u still didnt give a justification an havent for almost the entirety of the dp
2. Claiming miller is the least useful you could do in town. The purpose of scum is to blend in and this does just that
Firstly so what if its the least useful how does that justify a lynch? Especially when we have two lovers in the game. lol if i wanted to blend in i wouldve claimed something else an not draw the attention to myself.
3. Skittlez's character is better off some other role than miller.
this has already been debunked numerous times throughout the dp
after reading this ive come up with two possible theories
1. Your just a lazy town
2. Your trying to "blend in" by bandwagoning an are scum
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@Intelligence_06
intelligence still hasnt given a justification for his vote yet
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no real leads rn an plus the risk of us losing 3 town players
so imma just VTNL for now
i think this is the best course of action unless someones else is gonna spit some ideas
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@Vader
@Intelligence_06
would ur guys couple name be supaintelligence or inteldudz?
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@SirAnonymous
If we lynch someone and the mafia shoots the lovers, it will be 4v2 next DP.
Exactly,
wouldnt surprise me if the people trying to get me lynched rn are in the scum team
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Current reads so far
drafterman - havent played with him much but i townread him cuz of that experiment he was tryna do. Makes no sense for scum to pull an experiment like that. Hell of a gambit id say.
oromagi - pretty weird behavior for him hes usually way more active. For now its null
Intelligence_06 - very lurky, jumped on a bandwagon against me, an didnt give any justification for his vote whatsoever.
Lunatic - townread him ive had lunatic in a game or two an this is pretty typical Lunatic behavior.
MisterChris - null too inactive
The rest im unsure of
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@MisterChris
if u were to vote for someone who'd u vote for?
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@Vader
Here's an example of you using WIFOM to try to analyze the game.
i didnt even know what WIFOM was until u mentioned it here
i was just saying what i thought i needed to say to prove my innocence
sorry but i just dont know what to tell ya u either believe me or u dont
There is no way that you looked at the Wiki for that short of time unless someone pasted a link to you, and even so, why look at the wiki for your own role?
I was looking at the wiki cuz i was confused of the role an how i should play it cuz normally i claim first thing
the wiki said to claim early an its reasoning made sense so thats what i did
. I've never seen you reference a Wiki in my life
First time for everything i guess
Thoughts: If this a new attempt at trying to be better at mafia, hats off, but I can't believe it. I don't believe after 1 game you can change your playstyle so much
all ive been doing is trying to be more active an think about what i say before i say it
call it lies but its the real deal g
Lurking is inherently sus, and you lurking will do nothing
aint tryna lurk im just outside alot during the day
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@Vader
Why the sudden change of pace?
im trying to be more active an get better at mafia
I also said my reason of why I think his defense is manufactured.
post?
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@Lunatic
doing my best to catch up rn
no cap i get watchu were saying on that naruto mafia now about ppl bandwagoning an not giving good justifications
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@Vader
I read what his responses were as manufactured and not necessarily genuine
asked for you to elaborate earlier and ill ask again
what made my response "manufactured"
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bandwagon vote from Skittlez because he hops on wagons on all of his votes
not true but aright
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imma head to the skatepark ill give my current leads sometime later most likely in the evening
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@drafterman
ight i read what u said an i 100 % agree
intelligence is prolly my top scum spect rn for bandwagoning
before any of that it'd prolly be best to pressure any inactives
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Yet I think you can agree that even if the wagon itself has no merit that you can find value in the activity it has generated
yall all got me to be active so id say thats a win ;p
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@Vader
His response to that situation seemed somewhat scripted by someone guiding him in general to say that
how did it seem scripted
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Yea but I got issues with that1. Early claiming these roles isn't the best thing2. Your claim is scummy because of what your role is. You should understand this3. You calling town "dumb/stupid" for lynching an SOP is not the best behavior
1. Explain why its bad that ive claimed miller. Claiming miller early prevents a mislynch, prevents wasting an investigation, and it doesnt hurt anyone as its basically vanilla
2. Explain how its scummy and what u wanted me to do instead of claiming early
3. ive heard worse
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