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@RationalMadman
he was extremely popular. just because many users, including yourself, had issues with him doesn't mean the other 95% of us did. and i dont really disagree that max's moderation was personally corrupt in many ways. i know from personal experience that if you were one of his favorites you could get away with far more than a regular user could. the point i'm making is that bsh has been, so far, less corrupt that airmax was and is still far less popular
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the lesson that I hope bsh takes from this is that while he remains personally popular, his moderation style is not at all. it's been what, two months? and there is already significant pushback, even though he hasn't really done anything beyond the pale. he hasn't noticeably favored his friends unfairly, he hasnt abused his power in any way or blown up publicly at anyone, yet his modship is still unpopular (or at least controversial.) compare this to airmax who was pretty openly corrupt in certain ways and yet remained popular. this was because his laissez faire moderation style was well received by the average user
in all likelihood bsh is going to remain the mod of this site for a long time so i hope he reflects on this. his views on free speech are EXTREMELY out of the mainstream for Americans and I think this colors his decisions which in turn causes the resentment. while my own views on the subject are to the other extreme it's fair to say that most people, and definitely most people who are attracted to a site for arguing, prefer a much more "rough and tumble" internet culture than bsh does. he really, really needs to take this into account. in both political viewpoints and temperament he is way outside the mainstream of DDO/DART, that doesnt mean he cant be a good mod but if he doesn't account for this he will not be.
in case anyone cares, i particularly dislike the deleting of posts/threads (which airmax did too.) Controversial topics are like an adrenaline shot to a debating website. on top of this, it just feels very orwellian that content can simply be deleted without a trace. if a user violates the rules, punish them but the content, unless grossly offensive or doxxy should remain (and no, saying "nigga" is nowhere near grossly offensive.)
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@Wylted
when did tranny become the new n word anyway? I just don't see the point of having such onerous moderation standards. debate sites THRIVE on controversy, even if that controversy is stupid e-drama. literally the entire point is to argue, about anything and everything
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@RationalMadman
My intent isn’t to mock you, I non ironically think you’re a DDO legend. I don’t know (or really care that much) what I did to make you hate me but your triumphant return to DDO is glorious
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Oh unbannable madman, may the honorable celebrate your victory and those who opposed your glorious return repent. May your enemies flee before you and may the good behold your trolling with awe.
The Madman has been unleashed.
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@1harderthanyouthink
this. I also think the site would benefit from a more rough and tumble culture like ddo had. Max enforced moderation standards that were about as strict as the ones here for only a few months before walking them back
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@Tyrone
typical white boy, can’t stand up to the black man
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@bsh1
i can confirm to you that none of these people are the real Tyrone, who is out of town for a wedding. i will confirm with you if/when he joins
it goes without saying, but i disavow the extreme content of the video. idk what makes people think this kind of thing is okay, but it simply is not. that said, i dont think it violated the tos
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@Greyparrot
yeah and a big part of that is that when times are good there’s really no reason for ethnic conflict to occur...there’s not a whole lot to fight about. But one of my top issues with modern society in general is how incredibly fragile everything is. Interconnectedness is great when things work out, but when they fail all it takes is one domino to fall to potentially knock down everything
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@FaustianJustice
Pro tip, if you’re going to do the whole snark thing make sure that your post actually makes sense. Because as it is, I don’t even know what point you’re trying to make
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@ResurgetExFavilla
In terms of mental gymnastics, no decisions will ever top Roe v. Wade. You have a right to privacy guaranteed by a clause that doesn’t make mention of it, and this right to privacy includes the right to an abortion. Give me a break.
As for birthright citizenship it’s a transparently absurd policy but I don’t have much hope that Trump can successfully change it. The US isn’t a real country anymore, it’s an economy
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Mikal was jolted out of his unconscious state by the sounds of arguing.
Blackvoid was in the middle of a heated discussion with a guard. He was tied to a chair that was bolted to the floor. Looking down at his wrists, Mikal realized that he too was tied up.
“I told you man, I don’t know what you’re talking about!”
“Who are you working for? Tell us now or—My Lord!” The man cut himself off to bow down to an imposing bald figure who entered the room. He was wearing a robe,carried three swords, and his hands were encased in MMA gloves. He looked vaguely familiar to Mikal but the pain in his head and being hung upside down kept him from putting his finger on it just then.
“On your feet.” The man said in a deep, deadly voice. “We have need of your talents elsewhere right now.”
“Of course, My Lord.”
The guard exited the room.
“Tell me, do you know you I am?”
“Of course we do, you traitor! You filthy—“ Blackvoid was cut off as the man punched him in the face. His chair was bolted to the floor, but the mans punch was so strong that the force of it literally tore the chair from the ground with Blackvoid still in it, slammed into the wall, and stayed smashed there for several seconds before, ever so slowly, sinking to the floor. Blackvoid was unconscious…Mikal hoped unconscious and not dead.
Mikal had seen a punch like that before, somewhere. That had been the knock out blow in the final round of the 2014 world leaders smash down that sent Vladimir Putin flying and face planting onto a world map on the wall, his teeth knocked out right on Crimea. President TUF, too, was on the side of the enemy.
“You know so little.” TUF said bitterly.
“So,so little.
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A well-dressed man held a knife of blue steel to Bsh’s throat.
“This is the end” he thought,. Accepting his fate, he closed his eyes.
Suddenly, there was a crash as the door was kicked open! And seeing who it was, his heart leaped.
The blade was withdrawn from Bsh’s throat as the man turned around.
“YYW.”
“Bluesteel”.YYW responded. He looked a mess, three long scratches on his bare chest and an enormous hole in his left shoulder. His entire body was absolutely covered with cuts and his chest had what looked to be a gunshot wound. Bsh was shocked he could even walk in this condition.
Bsh didn’t know the backstory but it was clear from the frosty glances exchanged that these two had history.
The two men began to stalk each other in a circular motion like jungle cats preparing to pounce.
“Face it, YYW. I won fair and square.”
“If by fair and square you mean completely unfairly, sure.”
“Fool. You really think you outweighed?”
Outweighed…what?
“It’s time to settle this like men bluesteel.”
“Very well.” With that, bluesteel tore off his suit to reveal a sweatervest underneath. He put on a pair of round, horned rim glasses and began to speak lightening fast:
“Ourfirstcontentionisinherencytheplanisnotinthestatusquobecause”
“We’re here to fight, not re enact that policy debate round Blue” YYW said and with that he took a massive swing at him. Bluesteel blocked the blow with his briefcase, but YYW swept his legs out from under him. Before Bluesteel could get back up YYW knocked him out with a blow from his sword.
YYW cut Bsh free, and then collapsed. Before falling into darkness, he managed to get out one word: “Run.”
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Bsh awoke to find himself tied to a chair in a basement lit by only a single lightbulb protruding from the roof. “Where am I?” he said aloud. Bsh didn’t remember how or why he had been knocked out, or to how long he was out but everything fcking hurt.
A drop of water fell from the roof and hit Bsh in the face. This caused the memories to flood back. The mission. The fight with Airmax. And oh God, YYW.”If I’m here, captured, that can only mean one thing. Shit.”
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“Classic,wake up. Do NOT go to sleep” a voice was saying. But Classic didn’t want to wakeup. It was so confusing, all Classic really remembered was pain and Zaradi dragging him away from…a sword fight? Oh, the battle. They must have lost. Bobbert tried to rouse himself but the dizziness in his head was so acute that he wasn’t sure he could…
Suddenly a sledgehammer hit Classic in the face and he went flying. At least that’s what it felt like. Bobbert opened his eyes to see Zaradi standing over him, fist clenched and cocked, ready to hit him again yelling “Do not die on us, we need every available sword and that’s is an ORDER.
“My…my head”
“You got banged up pretty badly. Can you stand?”
“I…I think so.” Classic stood up. His last clear memory was of a snarling, bearded man in a tricorner hat about to gut him with a dagger before Zaradi picked him up and literally flung him into the ocean.
“Where is everyone?” Classic asked dumbly.
“Use your imagination.” Zaradi snapped.
“Oryus? YYW? Angelofdeath? Darkkermit?”
“Dead, missing, dead, dead.”
“Charleslb?”
“I’m not sure”.
“Oh my God, where is Thett3?”
“I’m right here Bobbert.” And there he emerged from the trees, long scratches along his exposed chest, and a large dent in his crown. His blonde hair was tousled and he looked weary but Classic had never been so happy to see anyone in his life.
“I’m right here, and Zaradi is about to die” And with that Thett3 threw his jeweled dagger at Zaradi, who quickly dodged it and threw his in return. Thett3 must have lost his sword on the beach because he grabbed a pole of bamboo and tried to use it as a quarterstaff to smack Zaradi, who did the same thing and they both broke their makeshift weapons in one swing.
“Guys,what are you doing?!” Classic yelled
“A good captain doesn’t leave his crew.” Thett3 snarled “Zaradi snuck up behind me and hit my head, then carried me out.”
“You know where my loyalties lie Thett. My orders were to accomplish the mission at all costs, and that meant keeping you alive as you’re the only one who knows what Lucky’s mansion is like inside—“
“How do you intend to defeat Lucky three men Zaradi?”
Zaradi gave a very thettesque smile. “I have a plan.”
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Friends...I have elected to continue my pirate fanfiction. Four an a half years later. Please see the last episode here, and also note that I am dropping the Royal storyline because I don't know where to go with it, but she will likely make an appearance.
Episodes 1 & 2: http://www.debate.org/forums/miscellaneous/topic/38353/1/#1395352
Episodes 3 & 4: http://www.debate.org/forums/debate.org/topic/40428/
Episodes 3 & 4: http://www.debate.org/forums/debate.org/topic/40428/
The setting: Thett3 and his crew of pirates, working as private military contractors for the US government, have been vigorously hunting down pirates to secure shipping lanes. Our story left off after they fought a battle against the forces of the pirate lord Lucky_Luciano, that they lost badly.
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@Mopac
other vulgarities aren’t banned, though. Only slurs, even when they aren’t being used as slurs and are just how people talk
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@Polytheist-Witch
how is that trolling. It’s not my fault if some people trolled my innocent and easy to answer hypothetical
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@Polytheist-Witch
i admit to nothing. “Deny deny deny” is my motto
although in this case I literally did nothing wrong. Proof: I’m not banned and haven’t received any threats from moderation
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@bsh1
tyrone (the real one) definitely calls people ni**a when he’s arguing with/insulting them but he does that regardless. It’s just he way he talks but he’s a cool guy. I guess he won’t be welcome on this site
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@bsh1
what did I do to stir up drama?
Thats not a very fair standard. You’re a white guy banning African American Vernacular...you don’t see the problem with that?
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@Tyrone
lmao I know you’re a troll. Not only is it obvious to everyone but you said that you and Dequarius were gonna beat me up as if either of those two people would beat anyone up. Tyrone is really jacked and around 6’4” but he’s a complete sweetheart who would never hurt a fly. Dequarius looks like Urkel
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Just restating this:
Just got off the phone with Dequarius, and he told me that Tyrone is driving back up from Austin right now. I think that somebody saw the thread and made a troll account
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@RationalMadman
i literally didn’t do anything wrong, what “crime” some guy, who is not me, trolling a website?
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Just got off the phone with Dequarius, and he told me that Tyrone is driving back up from Austin right now. I think that somebody saw the thread and made a troll account
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@Tyrone
could you call me real quick? Dequarius said that you were gonna be chilling with him until this evening, I’m afraid this account might be someone trolling
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@Mopac
Tyrone isnt a thug. He’s a gentle giant who plays bass guitar for his church. He just likes to say “ni**a” with his boys. This is hardly unusual for a young black man and it doesn’t make him a bad person. It makes me really uncomfortable that the whitest of the white such as bsh might ban him from this site for using his slang. But I’ve talked it over with him and he’s going to join later anyway so I guess we will see
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@Mopac
you sound like a typical out of touch white person...by banning the n word you are banning African American Vernacular English which I have a problem with. Tyrone is a really cool and smart person but I don’t think he would be welcome on this site. Typical white boys club
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@Polytheist-Witch
you obviously don’t have any black friends lol. Since I’m not a racist, some of my best friends are black and they like calling each other (and really cool whites like me) the n word. It’s just a part of their culture
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@ArgentTongue
I don’t think it’s a mark against Tyrone’s character that he uses that word. It’s a part of African American culture and their vernacular. The last thing I want to do to the poor guy is put him in a position where his peoples speech is restricted by white folks—again
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@RationalMadman
Tyrone is the opposite of an idiot. He absolutely loves discussing philosophy and politics, if I’m at work or out of town he’ll often go to my house to have discussions with my girlfriend there because he just can’t get enough of hearing other people’s ideas. I think this site would be a great outlet for his insatiable desire to debate but he drops N bombs a lot and I don’t want him to get banned or quit because of his dialect
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I’m sure it’s obvious but I have a ton of really cool, jacked black friends in real life. One of them really wants to join the site but in real life he exclusively refers to me as “my ni**a” which bsh has previously stated wouldn’t be allowed. What should I tell him?
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@Username
hes actually a real warrior, just the other day he was over at my house and I was yelling at my mom because she undercooked my chicken nuggets and he told me (in a very deep voice) to stop
i flailed my arms in his general direction which he took as an attack and before I knew it he was swinging his ceremonial knife in my face. I think he still had some pent up energy from that altercation that he took out on bsh
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High school debate would be a lot better if at the beginning of every year each team got beaten up by their football players (in the case of females the equivalent would be losing badly in a verbal confrontation with a cheerleader and/or member of the drill team)
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@1harderthanyouthink
Amazon recommending “Substance: Or, Sense and Nonsense, Mostly the Latter” is the funniest thing about this project to me
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@Vader
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@Vader
thanks!!! It’s all on ddo if you want to read it I can send you the links
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@Vader
lmao it’s pretty sad isn’t it
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@David
i had thought of that... I don’t think that would hold up legally speaking but more importantly I’ll take my chances with a company that couldn’t even be bothered to take illegal spam links off of its site for months
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@RationalMadman
if the book sold at cost is overpriced, explain these testimonials, wiseguy
The quality of a book is a reflexion of the quality of the author’s soul. Nothing else is possible – there is no other explanation for the human wisdom one finds in a Great work besides a metaphysico-ethical transfer between Man and Blank Potentiality, having, as its conduit, the nib of a pen.This being true, it is undeniable that Thett3, that mysterious scrivener, is by no means ordinary. Indeed, reading his words makes one feel – in the realest sense – the warmth of his touch, and of His touch. The Best of Men are radient and shine upon the multitudes; none who read this collexion, painstakingly compiled, edited, and prepared for publication, will be in want of true Connexion with Light. – Bossyburrito**
After reading The Complete Works of Thett3, I gouged my eyes out because I knew I wouldn't be reading ever again – no other book could possibly compare to its greatness. – Romanii
Thett3? More like Best3. As in the best 3 works you’ll ever read are DDO Burger King, the DDO Olympics, and the lost to time 50 Shades of Gay. – SeventhProfessor
Is that a fan fiction? – DylanCatlow
Your mom will die in a horrible accident if you do not read this and share 20 times by tomorrow night, good luck and god bless. – Objectivity
I have spent the last two years in a state of permanent tantric bliss after reading The Collected Works of Thett3. Soon I will leave this cruel world, stepping out of a material realm of attachment and suffering and into the grand steppes of Thett3's imagination, where Mongol QTπs Tuvan throat sing me into my eternal rest. – Skepsikyma
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@TheHammer
however you did resell one—at a profit!
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@RationalMadman
Lol it’s like 3 dollars I don’t expect anyone who wasn’t directly involved in its creation to buy it I just thought it would be funny to post
as for the plot, yeah, pretty accurate
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@RationalMadman
actually it’s priceless so considering that it’s being sold at cost it isn’t priced highly enough
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Over the years DDO and it's spiritual successor of DART have had a lot of interesting stories. People who have come and gone, relationships, and tons of e-drama. But never before has there been a DDO book--until August 30th, that is. A collaborative effort between myself, bossyburrito (editor) and Romanii (cover artist), in the most autistic thing we've ever done, have created my very own book, based on the various short stories I've written for/about DDO. Such titles include my stupid unfinished pirate fanction, the DDO olympics, and of course DDO Burger King
It's just about the most niche product in the world and I seriously doubt that anyone other than the handful of people who have already bought it would want it...but just in case...here is the link.
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@bsh1
”The answer is you cannot use the n-word but you can debate "that Black Americans have lower average IQs than white Americans and at least a few of those IQ points can be attributed to genetics."
What if I wanted to debate that all or most of the black/white IQ gap is caused by genetics? I’m hoping this is just odd wording and you could debate something like that.
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Btw bezosfuturist wasn’t a space time multi so he shouldn’t have been banned
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@ResurgetExFavilla
they just want to feel oppressed by meming tranny into their own version of the n word, but it just doesnt work. Lame that you can get banned for it
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Idk if the issue will ever be resolved with a leftist moderation team though (Airmax being the most committed and biggest brained centrist of all time)
leftists in genera have really, really terrible views on free speech. The word “tranny” doesn’t dehumanize anyone. It’s a word. That’s it. It only has the power that you give it
when did tranny become the new n word btw, I didn’t even know it was considered offensive
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