This guy, not debating. And a debating website is where intellectual people have good conversation and arguments with each other. Trolling destroy the good vibes of this platform.
i am a serious debater. But these kinds of people causing us to leave.
do you want to loose people who really do debates over those who just troll?
This happened with DDO. do you want to repeat it again? Also the bugs in that website.
He is committing blasphemy.
if you wont do something about it then we have instructions, and i must follow them.
وَإِذَا رَأَيْتَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَخُوضُونَ فِىٓ ءَايَـٰتِنَا فَأَعْرِضْ عَنْهُمْ حَتَّىٰ يَخُوضُوا۟ فِى حَدِيثٍ غَيْرِهِۦ ۚ وَإِمَّا يُنسِيَنَّكَ ٱلشَّيْطَـٰنُ فَلَا تَقْعُدْ بَعْدَ ٱلذِّكْرَىٰ مَعَ ٱلْقَوْمِ ٱلظَّـٰلِمِي٦٨
When you see those who indulge in (blaspheming) Our verses, turn away from them until they become occupied with some other discourse. If Satan should cause you to forget (this instruction), then do not sit with the unjust people after recollection.
i am not upset. probably you do.
i told you many times it is normal course of actions.
i faced jury about my vote in 2012 on DDO. where i voted against nakashmatwadi. 1 vote with 7 points in the favour of a muslim guy while 7 votes against him.
my 1 single vote is still standing there if there would be database for that debate somewhere.
can you imagine?
why?
Because my vote was just. And i had to do a lengthy debate with that person who admitted my vote to be just and not vote bomb. and jury did not let me until he admitted himself.
so do not be upset.
i am doing which normally happens in debates.
for my rule number 4 i accept it with open arms but not for arguments. Which is vote bomb.
Brothers i could copy only this debate from DDO, just after that, they just shut down the website, very bad i could not copy others. this is the debate i did with KingDebater.
in 2012 i guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwyYCM8vEjQ
can you imagine the biased statement of lencelot?
This is mind set here?
Muslim will lose any debate against atheist? Hahaha very funny.
this shows dishonesty. That means you guys won't let me win because you are dominant on this website?
And you can get away with it with your vote bombs?
Try me brother, challenge anything, also if vote to be cased like sevant did then it's sure we will lose. Otherwise, no chance.
How much slainte was crying in debate, he was so confused even for his stance and left debate in the mid.
Believe me, my first debate was more rough on DDO. And in last round debater himself said that this debate is tie and no one should vote for him and for me. But still people vote bomb against me. Its shame.
You can't win fair and square.
Brother, i am an old debater, and I am not hyper at all. It's casual, nothing serious, but the RFD from sevant is not a good one. How you call him best debater and credible voter? He won 10 debates? Well, most of them are because of forfeit. Even he has won 10000 debates. But voting is something else. He put himself in your shoes when voted. I am just asking moderator to take actions, and he must improve his RFD. Be honest, we did not carry debate. It was dismissed, and you already know you can't win this debate based on arguments. Because there are not many from you. You left debate. i rebutted each of your statement in detail. His RFD shows, clearly, he did not read the debate. I have already break down his RFD any doubt in that analysis? This is not strange, for a Muslim he has to do separate debate for his arguments for his votes and the votes cast against him as well. i have faced this before.
Voter said:
“Pro gives a lengthy description of Islam, perhaps more than was necessary. “
Refutation:
Its not your part to decide how lengthy my argument should be totally irrelevant, which proves he did not read it.
Voter Said:
Pro wants me to assume that a philosophy with more rules is better, but he does little to argue for why that is true.
Refutation:
brother what are you doing?
This is not your duty to assume or debate with me. You are mere voter. You have to vote what is within debate.
I am speechless, literally speechless. Its childish.
Did I not say a system to be best or superior need to have complete set of code. And from definition of life I extracted the idea that, the more instruction from some system the more near to perfection it is. Resolution was which philosophy is superior for someone’s operating life.
We need to identify operations related to life so that we can analyze are those instructions for operations of life are good or not. Which con totally neglected and you also did not see that point I made in my 2nd argument. Kids grow up.
Voter Said:
“ Con gives a few benefits of Buddhism and argues that no philosophy is "the best," but there's not much in the way of a direct comparison to Islam”
Refutation:
voter found same things to be benefits of buddhism while not from me? Its strange and baised.
I gave alternative of what con gave from buddhism and argued the disadvantages of buddhism in that regard. Probably voter did not read that as well, such a shame.
I claimed Islam is best, while Con himself admitted that no philosophy is best. Its clear cut forfeit from the resolution. What are you doing brother here? Shame
Voter Said:
“ Pro mitigates this somewhat, arguing that Islam is better for meditation and managing one's life.”
Refutation:
brother you have some problem with me?
Am i mitigating? This is what you are saying for the good of me?
This is how your are appreciating me? Funny it is LOL.
Voter Said:
“But then Con comes back strong, arguing, "I find it very difficult to believe that a philosophical system that micromanages ones life is :the best".
Refutation:
I did not find that argument at all in debate. Where is it? And there is no reason to accept this.
Even that argument is made, there is no reason given why a system which micromanages ones life cant be best.
Here is Voter making his own assumptions. And trying to make me wrong with his own argument in RFD. Shame.
Voter said:
“ At the core, certain religions and philosophical positions are designed to be a type of indentured servitude, where the work in your is for the benefit of a deity or prophet, be-it God, Allah, Mohammad, Jesus, Mary, Shiva, Vishnu etc."
Refutation:
this where Con gave questions. Completely baiting his like minded people and voter got trapped in that trap. Such a shame. Did I not mention it in debate to not go on that route.
Con just gave question but not the argument why its bad. In rebuttal I said that every system has some strict to be followed to implement that system. Like police in any country. If that is good for the people there should be no argument about it to be bad, because it is not.
While this argument was never put by Con. It was just questions. And fear of hell and heaven was mentioned.
My debate was with slainte not sevant.
Why is he debating with me in vote section?
He said,
This seems like the best example of something that directly addresses the resolution, it flips most of what Pro said, and I don't see a response from Pro
read the debate one more time and then vote again brother please.
He said,
In the end, Pro's criticisms of Buddhism largely fall short after Con makes the point about indentured servitude since Con is arguing that people ought to take aspects from both Islam and Buddhism—it might not be the debate Pro was looking for, but it falls within the scope of the resolution.
There was no such argument.
I am telling he is trying to debate with me in vote section.
He never refuted any of my argument, he was just complaining about my behavior in comment section.
I already argued about that, in buddhism there is external influence.
There are books and practices there are tamples of buddah.
People give charity in the name of buddah. There was a guy who had idol of buddah in the form of amulet and was not letting us touch it.
Buddah is considered god by many as well.
And so on.
I am very disappointed from voter to vote bomb on this debate.
If he has given him points on forfeit it would be justified but saying he made better argument while there are no arguments at all then its shame.
you guys giving tie for better source while his links did not work.
how biased. well i will see who will do this onward.
as i will never leave that chance for anyone to have.
his bait to invite atheist to vote bomb worked.
very nice, same vibe which i saw during DDO times.
and i got almost 60 votes. and all top voters voted me then. and all worst vote bombed against me and some vote bombed in my favor as well.
brother, you had to give a RFD for your vote, not debate with me. What you did in RDF is totally extensions and further more assumptions from the no arguments from con. i feel very bad about it.
you got to give points to what is already in debate not to add to make your RTF a debate itself.
i would consider it vote bomb. if you will not explain it to me here i would call jury about this.
vote based on forfeit should give conduct points. and did you not see swings by con. he himself was not satisfied with his Buddhism argument and wanted to change his strategy to tackle.
bro what are you doing. you took his bait. he did not give any reason why believing in deity and being atheist and not effected by external force is better.
i am sure you did not see the refutation about it. you probably left my part just like con did. i gave example that people do good because of fear of getting punished in any system.
like every country has police. and still there come troubles.
bro such a shame after seeing your vote. How biased and UN just that is.
How scared u r this time. Devil followers. Last time what u did is not going to happen this time. i will destroy you this time in sha Allah with the mercy of Allah.
Brother,
Your messages are becoming smaller. Improvement.
Would you become Muslim if I give good, convincing answers to your questions?
Otherwise, it would be wastage of time, Quran has forbid us to debate or argue with ignorant.
That is why I was not responding to you. But if there is hope for you, I can do efforts.
Brother rayhan what are you doing brother. This is not mere debating, it's about Islam brother our religion. Do not be reckless. Do more efforts. On DDO there was a debate and there were 7 votes for a Muslim guy and vote from me and i gave all 7 points to the Muslim guy. And opposite debater was ex Muslim from Arab country, a good one. Among 43 lost only 1 debate.
because of copy and paste and laziness of Muslim brother he won but left a flaw which I picked. And voted against him because of that. But he called jury and there was big debate for my vote even with the debater. And he himself accepted my RDF and asked jury to be dismissed.
I can not do that ever again. That debate was about miracle of Quran. Here we go about contradictions. So easy to refute. But your laziness got you here. Why not go in deep and study real meaning about those verses? There is exegesis and detail commentary about them.
brother, try harder next time.I pray to Allah to help you next time, ameen.
Whatever you are asking, I have done debates about them and there are good answers for them too.
but the question is that, shall i answer you or not?
the asnwer is not.
i do not want to have debate with you because, i need a formal debate about these topics which you do not want to do.
if you really want to debate with me on those topics then you must instigate a debate or let me do it and you can accept my challange.
if you do not want that then keep your mouth shut. and do not waste your time for typing that much for vain. Because i swear to Allah i do not bother to read them.
i gave you chance, as slainte complaint about my behavior, and i looked back at myself and found i was at fault. even though in toxicity i can beat anyone as well.
but i choose being polite. as the mission is to show the true massage of islam and my personal attitude must not affect the message.
i apologize to anyone with whom i was harsh, i will correct myself in sha Allah.
thomas if you remain on the website and not get tired i will reply all those question with debate in near future, there is no rush at all. as i am busy person have work family and person life.
so i will do everything at my pace.
Open your eyes and see what i have did in comment section. in my society its even big deal. but as far as your society is concern, its just what even kids do in their formal conversations.
Why are you hyper about it?
i did not force you to debate with me.
i am being respectful with everyone who has been with me. in debate as well.
be careful next time do not debate with me.
tbh you are being child in debate. you do not know what you are talking and what you shall do for rebutting the arguments.
you are probably a child.
You are a troll, you are simply trolling in debate.
There i no argument from you at all. Simply wasting my time. Most of the debates you won were by forfeit.
what happens in the comment section is not part of the debate. And i have not done anything bad in comment section. i guess you guys call it freedom of speech. I am not here preaching right now but debating. I was very respectful and good, but you guys changed me. Have you seen the behavior of that mad dog Thomas?
You are teaching me how to debate? lol
as far as arguments are concern, you have put none. Just expressed your personal opinion about your stuff.
history has repeated, my first debate on DDO was like that, a trolled one and a vote bomb. But all remaining were good.
TBH everyone who debated me just run away after few arguments. Because i remove skin from hairs.
your behavior in debate is the same.
you just keep emotions away from debates. But you become emotional and your last argument is totally filled with emotions. and you kind of left the debate.
emotional statement are not getting you anywhere.
About forfeit its loose for me unless you agree. But u do not have spirit of debate to compete with arguments and logic but, you used forfeit to win the debate, such a shame. Instead of complaining me, you shall remove this stupid Thomas by reporting.
Admin do you have anything for toxic guys like thomas? They are running the vibe of debating website. A brain-dead person shall not have any place being here.
admin
Why spaces are removed when argument is posted how it can check every single word from 30000 words argument. It seemed fine before posting, but after posting it removes spaces.
There is even more guidance, and there are many medical benefits in those practices.
What I gave was a little demo of everything.
Islam is a complete code of life
you want me to talk about that issue in forums?
believe me i have done it many many times. they all become speachless.
i will do a full fledge debate after this debate.
if you really want you can join, I can challenge you or i can put it open and you can choose.
About this debate, i have already prepared arguments from DDO.
So i guess i can even start this debate even now.
But for little comfort for you let me share little data.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina
Mother Aisha was precocious puberty. At the age of 9 to have menstruation shows his puberty reach to its final sprout.
there is ton of data which your tiny brain could not handle right now.
that is why this topic has been debated many times before and debater won debate.org. i tried too but bugs did not let me post my argument in last year. But I posted them in comment section. There was a mad dog like u. which got shut.
Yes, I can guess from his attitude. He can go insulting Prophet Jesus (PBUH). Which as Muslim we do not like at all.
I have been debating with posters and saints from Christianity, they behave very well. His behavior is of ignorant and mannerless. An empty utensil sounds a lot, there is proverb here.
Swine, link the post from forum and let me see what you got. Swine, you are garbage, i did not want to waste time with you at all. i am a very busy guy.
But as you are behaving like a lost dog, so i can give you sometime. A person with sound mind and little honor will understand when someone is ignoring your nonsense, then you should not embarrass yourself more.
But you behave like spoiled brat who need intention just like a lost dog.
you should get lost from here.
and also link your forum post which you want response from me.
i do not read even 5% of your comment, i do not know why you bother to even comment when i never read them. it would be wastage of valuable time to even read them.
so you do not know when external issues cause someone to forfiet its not against rules.
i have done this before. it shows that you are debating fare and square.
well even its forfeit argument can give me edge.
Still as its mentioned in rules i may could lose, but everybody will know it was out of my control. and it shows u are weak debtor. most of the debates you won was by forfeit.
i could win other debates. my purpose is spreading the truth.
which i will do through this debate and many others which are about to come.
it was out of my control.
but i would know that next time i won't debate with u. because you take advantage wrongly.
Skipping a round is not a big deal.
i will continue debate with other rounds, lets see what you can do about it.
i hope people will give argument points to whom who deserve.
or go with rule number 4 its up to them.
I do not want to talk with little kids or people who have small brains. But for the lost time. i told you forums are for immature.
You keep enjoying forums. If you dare to argue with me, then instigate debate.
I assume they are scared of me at a very large level. That is why they shut down debate.org.
They become scared there too.
this website do not have bugs like DDO, and could not be shut down so they shut internet in my country.
but it will not stop me.
A atheist to be bold is under stable, but a Christian trying to talk high and might is not understandable.
on DDO they were chicken shi8t.
soon you will be here too.
sorry, i wanted to mention this comment for @BrotherD.Thomas
Nope, it's not that thing. There was political outrage. They shut it for 3 days. It happened only once for that long. Otherwise, it was for few hours for security reason before whenever needed. And this happens because those fools from other countries get involved in our politics, which cause these kinds of problems. they are scared of us and influence our political matters. Just like North Korea, there are political instabilities and because other countries are scared of it they just try to influence in their political matters too.
any ways, my internet is good.
If I could have Internet 3 hours before, I could have posted my argument. But I got it now. Well we will continue debate in next round, just skip the round for both of us.
hahahaha, swine eater swine. you are Christian. is earth 10k year old? is it flat? is your god born from the womb of a woman? is he hybrid? Half human, half man?
this is your bible?
Isaiah 28:10 LEB
For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there.
Numbers 31:13-18-13-18 The Message (MSG)
Moses, Eleazar, and all the leaders of the congregation went to meet the returning army outside the camp. Moses was furious with the army officers—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—as they came back from the battlefield: “What’s this! You’ve let these women live! They’re the ones who, under Balaam’s direction, seduced the People of Israel away from GOD in that mess at Peor, causing the plague that hit GOD’s people. Finish your job: kill all the boys. Kill every woman who has slept with a man. The younger women who are virgins you can keep alive for yourselves.
Numbers 31:17-18 New American Standard Bible - NASB 1995 (NASB1995)
Now, therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.
Numbers 31:17-18 New Living Translation (NLT)
So kill all the boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Now shut the fck up you filthy swine.
If you dare, open up the debate, I will post the next argument tomorrow. About this debate.
Do you want me to show more filth about your faith?
If are wise, you will put ur tail between your legs and run.
So you are from DDO.
It's a shame they shut it down, and I lost good debates which I need to make video about them.
Though, I have debated on that website in 2012.
Then the bugs ruled in that website. And I could not post even 1 argument.
let's see here, how it will turn out. Anyone who will instigate debate against Islam, I will be their opponent. in sha Allah.
Let the topic be Islam vs Anything1. Because I will mention the resolution in the first argument, also I am going to make a series of debate with this pattern for people to follow in sequential order.
Let it be 5 rounds. One more round to present more of arguments and rebuttals.
If debate concluded before that, we can simply extend the arguments. And leave the round simple.
Believe me, it will take even more than 5 round to cope this topic. But we, max has 5 rounds.
Format:
In round 1
{Resolution
Some necessary definitions.
Opening argument from me}
Round 2 to round 4
Rebuttal
more arguments if needed
Rebuttal.
In final round, no more arguments, though with conclusion you can tackle the already existing arguments.
Do u accept?
Is this a “four corners” of a religion argument, or is this a wider concept. Are you saying:
Nope, it's not a four corners argument.
Instead,
“All things being equal, Islam is superior to any other philosophy for operating one's life”
that is a good resolution to debate. But want you to explain about what all things being equal means?
It must not include Allah.
In fact, this part of the above statement is un necessary because it's not true.
We as Human are superior being among all created and living beings.
On this part, we can debate,
Islam is superior to any other philosophy for operating one's life
This guy, not debating. And a debating website is where intellectual people have good conversation and arguments with each other. Trolling destroy the good vibes of this platform.
i am a serious debater. But these kinds of people causing us to leave.
do you want to loose people who really do debates over those who just troll?
This happened with DDO. do you want to repeat it again? Also the bugs in that website.
He is committing blasphemy.
if you wont do something about it then we have instructions, and i must follow them.
وَإِذَا رَأَيْتَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَخُوضُونَ فِىٓ ءَايَـٰتِنَا فَأَعْرِضْ عَنْهُمْ حَتَّىٰ يَخُوضُوا۟ فِى حَدِيثٍ غَيْرِهِۦ ۚ وَإِمَّا يُنسِيَنَّكَ ٱلشَّيْطَـٰنُ فَلَا تَقْعُدْ بَعْدَ ٱلذِّكْرَىٰ مَعَ ٱلْقَوْمِ ٱلظَّـٰلِمِي٦٨
When you see those who indulge in (blaspheming) Our verses, turn away from them until they become occupied with some other discourse. If Satan should cause you to forget (this instruction), then do not sit with the unjust people after recollection.
Admin do something about this, thomas. Ban him. Why he is not banned yet?
Going to record this debate for YouTube as well.
I saw airmax account with same profile picture with tiny devil lol.
But seems he is not active.
That would be awesome.
We can do that, surely.
i am not upset. probably you do.
i told you many times it is normal course of actions.
i faced jury about my vote in 2012 on DDO. where i voted against nakashmatwadi. 1 vote with 7 points in the favour of a muslim guy while 7 votes against him.
my 1 single vote is still standing there if there would be database for that debate somewhere.
can you imagine?
why?
Because my vote was just. And i had to do a lengthy debate with that person who admitted my vote to be just and not vote bomb. and jury did not let me until he admitted himself.
so do not be upset.
i am doing which normally happens in debates.
for my rule number 4 i accept it with open arms but not for arguments. Which is vote bomb.
Brothers i could copy only this debate from DDO, just after that, they just shut down the website, very bad i could not copy others. this is the debate i did with KingDebater.
in 2012 i guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwyYCM8vEjQ
can you imagine the biased statement of lencelot?
This is mind set here?
Muslim will lose any debate against atheist? Hahaha very funny.
this shows dishonesty. That means you guys won't let me win because you are dominant on this website?
And you can get away with it with your vote bombs?
Try me brother, challenge anything, also if vote to be cased like sevant did then it's sure we will lose. Otherwise, no chance.
How much slainte was crying in debate, he was so confused even for his stance and left debate in the mid.
Believe me, my first debate was more rough on DDO. And in last round debater himself said that this debate is tie and no one should vote for him and for me. But still people vote bomb against me. Its shame.
You can't win fair and square.
Brother, i am an old debater, and I am not hyper at all. It's casual, nothing serious, but the RFD from sevant is not a good one. How you call him best debater and credible voter? He won 10 debates? Well, most of them are because of forfeit. Even he has won 10000 debates. But voting is something else. He put himself in your shoes when voted. I am just asking moderator to take actions, and he must improve his RFD. Be honest, we did not carry debate. It was dismissed, and you already know you can't win this debate based on arguments. Because there are not many from you. You left debate. i rebutted each of your statement in detail. His RFD shows, clearly, he did not read the debate. I have already break down his RFD any doubt in that analysis? This is not strange, for a Muslim he has to do separate debate for his arguments for his votes and the votes cast against him as well. i have faced this before.
Voter said:
“Pro gives a lengthy description of Islam, perhaps more than was necessary. “
Refutation:
Its not your part to decide how lengthy my argument should be totally irrelevant, which proves he did not read it.
Voter Said:
Pro wants me to assume that a philosophy with more rules is better, but he does little to argue for why that is true.
Refutation:
brother what are you doing?
This is not your duty to assume or debate with me. You are mere voter. You have to vote what is within debate.
I am speechless, literally speechless. Its childish.
Did I not say a system to be best or superior need to have complete set of code. And from definition of life I extracted the idea that, the more instruction from some system the more near to perfection it is. Resolution was which philosophy is superior for someone’s operating life.
We need to identify operations related to life so that we can analyze are those instructions for operations of life are good or not. Which con totally neglected and you also did not see that point I made in my 2nd argument. Kids grow up.
Voter Said:
“ Con gives a few benefits of Buddhism and argues that no philosophy is "the best," but there's not much in the way of a direct comparison to Islam”
Refutation:
voter found same things to be benefits of buddhism while not from me? Its strange and baised.
I gave alternative of what con gave from buddhism and argued the disadvantages of buddhism in that regard. Probably voter did not read that as well, such a shame.
I claimed Islam is best, while Con himself admitted that no philosophy is best. Its clear cut forfeit from the resolution. What are you doing brother here? Shame
Voter Said:
“ Pro mitigates this somewhat, arguing that Islam is better for meditation and managing one's life.”
Refutation:
brother you have some problem with me?
Am i mitigating? This is what you are saying for the good of me?
This is how your are appreciating me? Funny it is LOL.
Voter Said:
“But then Con comes back strong, arguing, "I find it very difficult to believe that a philosophical system that micromanages ones life is :the best".
Refutation:
I did not find that argument at all in debate. Where is it? And there is no reason to accept this.
Even that argument is made, there is no reason given why a system which micromanages ones life cant be best.
Here is Voter making his own assumptions. And trying to make me wrong with his own argument in RFD. Shame.
Voter said:
“ At the core, certain religions and philosophical positions are designed to be a type of indentured servitude, where the work in your is for the benefit of a deity or prophet, be-it God, Allah, Mohammad, Jesus, Mary, Shiva, Vishnu etc."
Refutation:
this where Con gave questions. Completely baiting his like minded people and voter got trapped in that trap. Such a shame. Did I not mention it in debate to not go on that route.
Con just gave question but not the argument why its bad. In rebuttal I said that every system has some strict to be followed to implement that system. Like police in any country. If that is good for the people there should be no argument about it to be bad, because it is not.
While this argument was never put by Con. It was just questions. And fear of hell and heaven was mentioned.
My debate was with slainte not sevant.
Why is he debating with me in vote section?
He said,
This seems like the best example of something that directly addresses the resolution, it flips most of what Pro said, and I don't see a response from Pro
read the debate one more time and then vote again brother please.
He said,
In the end, Pro's criticisms of Buddhism largely fall short after Con makes the point about indentured servitude since Con is arguing that people ought to take aspects from both Islam and Buddhism—it might not be the debate Pro was looking for, but it falls within the scope of the resolution.
There was no such argument.
I am telling he is trying to debate with me in vote section.
He never refuted any of my argument, he was just complaining about my behavior in comment section.
I already argued about that, in buddhism there is external influence.
There are books and practices there are tamples of buddah.
People give charity in the name of buddah. There was a guy who had idol of buddah in the form of amulet and was not letting us touch it.
Buddah is considered god by many as well.
And so on.
I am very disappointed from voter to vote bomb on this debate.
If he has given him points on forfeit it would be justified but saying he made better argument while there are no arguments at all then its shame.
Brother, let me break down your RFD
you guys giving tie for better source while his links did not work.
how biased. well i will see who will do this onward.
as i will never leave that chance for anyone to have.
his bait to invite atheist to vote bomb worked.
very nice, same vibe which i saw during DDO times.
and i got almost 60 votes. and all top voters voted me then. and all worst vote bombed against me and some vote bombed in my favor as well.
brother, you had to give a RFD for your vote, not debate with me. What you did in RDF is totally extensions and further more assumptions from the no arguments from con. i feel very bad about it.
you got to give points to what is already in debate not to add to make your RTF a debate itself.
i would consider it vote bomb. if you will not explain it to me here i would call jury about this.
vote based on forfeit should give conduct points. and did you not see swings by con. he himself was not satisfied with his Buddhism argument and wanted to change his strategy to tackle.
bro what are you doing. you took his bait. he did not give any reason why believing in deity and being atheist and not effected by external force is better.
i am sure you did not see the refutation about it. you probably left my part just like con did. i gave example that people do good because of fear of getting punished in any system.
like every country has police. and still there come troubles.
bro such a shame after seeing your vote. How biased and UN just that is.
How scared u r this time. Devil followers. Last time what u did is not going to happen this time. i will destroy you this time in sha Allah with the mercy of Allah.
Brother,
Your messages are becoming smaller. Improvement.
Would you become Muslim if I give good, convincing answers to your questions?
Otherwise, it would be wastage of time, Quran has forbid us to debate or argue with ignorant.
That is why I was not responding to you. But if there is hope for you, I can do efforts.
LOL, in feel sorry for you :D
Islam, the fastest growing religion of the world.
No problem brother, keep it up :)
Brother rayhan what are you doing brother. This is not mere debating, it's about Islam brother our religion. Do not be reckless. Do more efforts. On DDO there was a debate and there were 7 votes for a Muslim guy and vote from me and i gave all 7 points to the Muslim guy. And opposite debater was ex Muslim from Arab country, a good one. Among 43 lost only 1 debate.
because of copy and paste and laziness of Muslim brother he won but left a flaw which I picked. And voted against him because of that. But he called jury and there was big debate for my vote even with the debater. And he himself accepted my RDF and asked jury to be dismissed.
I can not do that ever again. That debate was about miracle of Quran. Here we go about contradictions. So easy to refute. But your laziness got you here. Why not go in deep and study real meaning about those verses? There is exegesis and detail commentary about them.
brother, try harder next time.I pray to Allah to help you next time, ameen.
Whatever you are asking, I have done debates about them and there are good answers for them too.
but the question is that, shall i answer you or not?
the asnwer is not.
i do not want to have debate with you because, i need a formal debate about these topics which you do not want to do.
if you really want to debate with me on those topics then you must instigate a debate or let me do it and you can accept my challange.
if you do not want that then keep your mouth shut. and do not waste your time for typing that much for vain. Because i swear to Allah i do not bother to read them.
i gave you chance, as slainte complaint about my behavior, and i looked back at myself and found i was at fault. even though in toxicity i can beat anyone as well.
but i choose being polite. as the mission is to show the true massage of islam and my personal attitude must not affect the message.
i apologize to anyone with whom i was harsh, i will correct myself in sha Allah.
thomas if you remain on the website and not get tired i will reply all those question with debate in near future, there is no rush at all. as i am busy person have work family and person life.
so i will do everything at my pace.
Open your eyes and see what i have did in comment section. in my society its even big deal. but as far as your society is concern, its just what even kids do in their formal conversations.
Why are you hyper about it?
i did not force you to debate with me.
i am being respectful with everyone who has been with me. in debate as well.
be careful next time do not debate with me.
tbh you are being child in debate. you do not know what you are talking and what you shall do for rebutting the arguments.
you are probably a child.
You are a troll, you are simply trolling in debate.
There i no argument from you at all. Simply wasting my time. Most of the debates you won were by forfeit.
what happens in the comment section is not part of the debate. And i have not done anything bad in comment section. i guess you guys call it freedom of speech. I am not here preaching right now but debating. I was very respectful and good, but you guys changed me. Have you seen the behavior of that mad dog Thomas?
You are teaching me how to debate? lol
as far as arguments are concern, you have put none. Just expressed your personal opinion about your stuff.
history has repeated, my first debate on DDO was like that, a trolled one and a vote bomb. But all remaining were good.
TBH everyone who debated me just run away after few arguments. Because i remove skin from hairs.
your behavior in debate is the same.
you just keep emotions away from debates. But you become emotional and your last argument is totally filled with emotions. and you kind of left the debate.
emotional statement are not getting you anywhere.
About forfeit its loose for me unless you agree. But u do not have spirit of debate to compete with arguments and logic but, you used forfeit to win the debate, such a shame. Instead of complaining me, you shall remove this stupid Thomas by reporting.
Admin do you have anything for toxic guys like thomas? They are running the vibe of debating website. A brain-dead person shall not have any place being here.
Can you reset this debate?
admin
Why spaces are removed when argument is posted how it can check every single word from 30000 words argument. It seemed fine before posting, but after posting it removes spaces.
There is even more guidance, and there are many medical benefits in those practices.
What I gave was a little demo of everything.
Islam is a complete code of life
you want me to talk about that issue in forums?
believe me i have done it many many times. they all become speachless.
i will do a full fledge debate after this debate.
if you really want you can join, I can challenge you or i can put it open and you can choose.
About this debate, i have already prepared arguments from DDO.
So i guess i can even start this debate even now.
But for little comfort for you let me share little data.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina
Mother Aisha was precocious puberty. At the age of 9 to have menstruation shows his puberty reach to its final sprout.
there is ton of data which your tiny brain could not handle right now.
that is why this topic has been debated many times before and debater won debate.org. i tried too but bugs did not let me post my argument in last year. But I posted them in comment section. There was a mad dog like u. which got shut.
Yes, I can guess from his attitude. He can go insulting Prophet Jesus (PBUH). Which as Muslim we do not like at all.
I have been debating with posters and saints from Christianity, they behave very well. His behavior is of ignorant and mannerless. An empty utensil sounds a lot, there is proverb here.
Swine, link the post from forum and let me see what you got. Swine, you are garbage, i did not want to waste time with you at all. i am a very busy guy.
But as you are behaving like a lost dog, so i can give you sometime. A person with sound mind and little honor will understand when someone is ignoring your nonsense, then you should not embarrass yourself more.
But you behave like spoiled brat who need intention just like a lost dog.
you should get lost from here.
and also link your forum post which you want response from me.
i do not read even 5% of your comment, i do not know why you bother to even comment when i never read them. it would be wastage of valuable time to even read them.
Post your argument, so we shall continue.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2416427/internet-services-restored-in-pakistan-after-more-than-72-hours-of-shutdown
here it is, I am not lying.
so you do not know when external issues cause someone to forfiet its not against rules.
i have done this before. it shows that you are debating fare and square.
well even its forfeit argument can give me edge.
Still as its mentioned in rules i may could lose, but everybody will know it was out of my control. and it shows u are weak debtor. most of the debates you won was by forfeit.
i could win other debates. my purpose is spreading the truth.
which i will do through this debate and many others which are about to come.
it was out of my control.
but i would know that next time i won't debate with u. because you take advantage wrongly.
Skipping a round is not a big deal.
i will continue debate with other rounds, lets see what you can do about it.
i hope people will give argument points to whom who deserve.
or go with rule number 4 its up to them.
I do not want to talk with little kids or people who have small brains. But for the lost time. i told you forums are for immature.
You keep enjoying forums. If you dare to argue with me, then instigate debate.
I assume they are scared of me at a very large level. That is why they shut down debate.org.
They become scared there too.
this website do not have bugs like DDO, and could not be shut down so they shut internet in my country.
but it will not stop me.
A atheist to be bold is under stable, but a Christian trying to talk high and might is not understandable.
on DDO they were chicken shi8t.
soon you will be here too.
sorry, i wanted to mention this comment for @BrotherD.Thomas
Nope, it's not that thing. There was political outrage. They shut it for 3 days. It happened only once for that long. Otherwise, it was for few hours for security reason before whenever needed. And this happens because those fools from other countries get involved in our politics, which cause these kinds of problems. they are scared of us and influence our political matters. Just like North Korea, there are political instabilities and because other countries are scared of it they just try to influence in their political matters too.
any ways, my internet is good.
If I could have Internet 3 hours before, I could have posted my argument. But I got it now. Well we will continue debate in next round, just skip the round for both of us.
My forfeit was inevitable, I had some problems with my internet. But
Isaiah 28:10 LEB
For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there.
hahahahahhahahh
swine you need medical check up.......
hahahaha, swine eater swine. you are Christian. is earth 10k year old? is it flat? is your god born from the womb of a woman? is he hybrid? Half human, half man?
this is your bible?
Isaiah 28:10 LEB
For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there.
Numbers 31:13-18-13-18 The Message (MSG)
Moses, Eleazar, and all the leaders of the congregation went to meet the returning army outside the camp. Moses was furious with the army officers—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—as they came back from the battlefield: “What’s this! You’ve let these women live! They’re the ones who, under Balaam’s direction, seduced the People of Israel away from GOD in that mess at Peor, causing the plague that hit GOD’s people. Finish your job: kill all the boys. Kill every woman who has slept with a man. The younger women who are virgins you can keep alive for yourselves.
Numbers 31:17-18 New American Standard Bible - NASB 1995 (NASB1995)
Now, therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.
Numbers 31:17-18 New Living Translation (NLT)
So kill all the boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Now shut the fck up you filthy swine.
If you dare, open up the debate, I will post the next argument tomorrow. About this debate.
Do you want me to show more filth about your faith?
If are wise, you will put ur tail between your legs and run.
lol
good to know and hope will get experience here.
aslam o alykum wrwb.
Thanks brother, in sha Allah would be best.
Where is Airmax?
I remember few other names as well, hope I will find old friends from there here.
So you are from DDO.
It's a shame they shut it down, and I lost good debates which I need to make video about them.
Though, I have debated on that website in 2012.
Then the bugs ruled in that website. And I could not post even 1 argument.
let's see here, how it will turn out. Anyone who will instigate debate against Islam, I will be their opponent. in sha Allah.
u want bug who look like testicles to be ur god, then go for it.
BUG IN WEBSITE, DELETED SPACES BETWEEN WORDS.
Soon I will post my opening argument.
Let the topic be Islam vs Anything1. Because I will mention the resolution in the first argument, also I am going to make a series of debate with this pattern for people to follow in sequential order.
Let it be 5 rounds. One more round to present more of arguments and rebuttals.
If debate concluded before that, we can simply extend the arguments. And leave the round simple.
Believe me, it will take even more than 5 round to cope this topic. But we, max has 5 rounds.
Format:
In round 1
{Resolution
Some necessary definitions.
Opening argument from me}
Round 2 to round 4
Rebuttal
more arguments if needed
Rebuttal.
In final round, no more arguments, though with conclusion you can tackle the already existing arguments.
Do u accept?
Do u want it?
Is this a “four corners” of a religion argument, or is this a wider concept. Are you saying:
Nope, it's not a four corners argument.
Instead,
“All things being equal, Islam is superior to any other philosophy for operating one's life”
that is a good resolution to debate. But want you to explain about what all things being equal means?
It must not include Allah.
In fact, this part of the above statement is un necessary because it's not true.
We as Human are superior being among all created and living beings.
On this part, we can debate,
Islam is superior to any other philosophy for operating one's life
yeah yeah