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So, when will you ban corporal punishment against children?
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@coal
Do you think that Best.Korea is Korean?
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Pro-Life without God
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@Uragirimono
I am non-religious.

I am also pro-choice and pro-life relative to the necessity of survival.

Absolute pro-life is an impossibility for any living organism.

Though some people do tend to compartmentalise their thoughts in a contradictory way.

Save the foetus shoot the Russian eat the fried chicken, as it were.
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Was Jesus a liar and a lunatic?
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@Shila
That's the funny thing.

No one knows who or what Jesus actually was.

That's assuming that he actually existed.

The reliability of subsequent hand me down tales will inevitably be questionable.

Best case is that he was a bloke who gave a lot of credence to the Idea of supernatural entity/deity, so much so that he considered himself the son of a GOD.

Which if you think about it, was a reasonable conclusion for any theistically/deistically inspired person.

And if he was charismatic enough, he could undoubtedly inspire others to follow.
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Every pro-lifer always, without fail, gets it wrong on abortion.
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@TWS1405
The proof of you is also self-evident.
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If you dont want to tax the rich, what other options do you have?
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@Shila
As I stated, we base our measure of class upon differing criteria.


Though I was questioning how China would remain competitive, with an overpaid and over expectant population.

What do you think?
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Every pro-lifer always, without fail, gets it wrong on abortion.
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@TWS1405
Facts are facts.

And superfluous comments are superfluous comments.

The prove is self-evident.
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I HATE STUPID PEOPLE!!!!
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@TWS1405
How it works. Clown.

For sure, I expected nothing better from you.
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The Queen
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@3RU7AL
Best not think about it too much.
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I HATE STUPID PEOPLE!!!!
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@TWS1405
Basing an assumption of a stranger's attitude and demeanour upon linguistics, is probably why you made that incorrect assumption.

Which to be fair is easily done.
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Every pro-lifer always, without fail, gets it wrong on abortion.
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@TWS1405
And your entirely superfluous comments are based upon what?


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The Queen
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@3RU7AL
13 minutes 58 seconds too long for me.

I may be happy with the system.

But I tend to ignore the pomp.
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I HATE STUPID PEOPLE!!!!
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@TWS1405
I have alternative opinions.

Disagreement is futile.

Though I do like satire, which some people are not always comfortable with.

And how would you have any idea of a remote darters attitude and demeanour?

That can only be an assumption, maybe based upon incorrectly constructed internal conclusions.

Mental pictures are rarely accurate.





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@TWS1405
I only assume that you are banally sophomoric incel.

But nonetheless you're welcome.


Obviously at 62 years of age and married with two daughters in their thirties, I hardly fit the criteria.

And to a degree we could all be described as banal, very little if anything we say or do is original.
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If you dont want to tax the rich, what other options do you have?
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@Shila
Ah.

So, your measure of class is based upon solely upon wealth.



Whereas my measure of class is based upon a broader application of intellect.


So, for example.


An extremely rich anti-social dickhead would lack class.

Whereas an extremely rich altruist would be classy.

One could also apply the same criteria to not so well-off people.

Class is also apparent in style, deportment and a raft of other characteristics.


You are just categorising people relative to poverty indicators.

Thanks to the "Wests" reliance upon cheap Chinese exports and cheap labour.

So, whilst there are still people doing the donkey work for peanuts all will be fine and dandy.

Therein lies contradictory logic.

Or illogic.

Or a misconception.


I'm not certain that the Chinese authorities will allow the bubble to completely burst.

What say you?
 
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@TWS1405
Remove your logical fallacy logical fallacy problems and you would understand that we probably agree.


False equivalency fallacy.
Your assumption.


Logical fallacy problems.
Your assumption.


Logical fallacy logical fallacy problems
My strong assumption based upon your illogical logical fallacy problems.
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I HATE STUPID PEOPLE!!!!
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@TWS1405
Awesome.

Thank you.
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Every pro-lifer always, without fail, gets it wrong on abortion.
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@TWS1405
Living matter is being rendered lifeless via abortion.

Human in origin, though how we choose to label it further is a semantics issue rather than a moral issue.

How we choose to compare said matter with post-natal human beings varies.

As does how we choose to apply viability and importance during the process of pre-natal development.

And unfortunately, as does how we apply importance to fully developed humans and other living organisms.

Hence Hypocrisy and selective morality are rife.
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Ugly vs Attractive
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@TWS1405
Attractive is an assumption relative to a socially contrived expectation.
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Is the internet real?
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@rbelivb
What is real about a face-to-face conversation.

Sound I suppose.

A detectable frequency.

Not sure how different that is to a digital frequency that might also be converted to sound and internal noise.
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I HATE STUPID PEOPLE!!!!
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@TWS1405
Perhaps you hate yourself.
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Anti-whitism "comedian" fired for being unfunny.
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@Greyparrot
Humour comes from exposing lies we tell ourselves.
Yep, I get that.
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Anti-whitism "comedian" fired for being unfunny.
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@Shila
Sure, it would be if I was with a particular herd and responded to contrived humour contrary to herd expectation.

Though that would depend a lot on how judgemental herd members were.

Though I do tend to avoid herd situations as much as I possibly can.
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SEIGNIORAGE
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@Shila
45 trillion, is a comparative amount applied for the purposes of sensationalism.

Using the blacky v whitey mantra to cherry pick specific bits of recent history to justify the disparate society that is Modern India.

By an ex-Indian doing well in the U.S.A.
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If you dont want to tax the rich, what other options do you have?
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@Shila
Firstly, the math was correct with regard to billionaire to general public ratio.

Secondly, I was questioning the criteria by which one might measure class.


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@sadolite
"I have killed nothing".

Sort of an odd statement.

Nonetheless, I would suggest that the destruction of living matter is technically killing. As in the deliberate or accidental cessation of life and future potential.

The abortion issue is really all about the status of living matter relative to potential, relative to intellect, relative to acquired sensibilities including the conceptual variable we refer to as morality. Which more often is relative to the conceptual variable we refer to as religion.
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Anti-whitism "comedian" fired for being unfunny.
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@Greyparrot
It's funny how funny changes relative to political correctness and social re-education.

Does this suggest that funny is never really funny. But just a response to social expectation.

I do enjoy listening to witty rhetoric, but "Comedians" rarely make me laugh. 

I think that laughing is more often just a contrived herd response.
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So, what's the difference between vegan food and carnivorous food.
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@Shila
Not at all.

As I stated, lifestyle choice includes dietary choices and laziness too.

Lifestyle choices are relative to social availability, which was to say that American society previously promoted an easy life as an aspiration.

So consequently, American society currently has high incidences of obesity relative to a generational mindset.

Social re-education will therefore only be effective over time.
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If you dont want to tax the rich, what other options do you have?
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@Shila
That's 1133 out of 1.4 billion just to put it in perspective.

How the other 1399998867 are doing one couldn't say.

And is class relative to wealth, heredity, intellect or what.


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@Shila
Yes, I did briefly read that article.

Seemingly a staggering claim, but not quite all that it seems. For a start, 45 trillion is a comparative amount and somewhat sensationalist to say the least.

And who is regrinding the old colonial axe now, and why?

And certainly not relative to caste disparity and associated wealth disparity in modern Indian society.

And judging the past against the present only serves to achieve global negativity, same as ever.

And I sure that Mr Patnaik is doing just fine for himself.
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The storm
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@sadolite
I personally think that V.P is a more colossal asshole.

And there are probably a whole lot more, more colossal than Shila.

In fact, in terms of discussion Shila adds an interesting dynamic to the Forum.

Back patting can get a tad insipid.


Nonetheless, I hope that you and yours and your property survived the hurricane relatively unscathed.


And hoping that a complete stranger, "fucking dies", is not particularly nice.

But let's just put that down to pre-hurricane angst.



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@Shila
India also has a lot of very poor people who have always been self-reliant.

India is a Nation of two halves. A very big half and a much smaller half.

Typical of capitalist evolution I suppose.
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@oromagi
Exactly.
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So, what's the difference between vegan food and carnivorous food.
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@Shila
Lifestyle choices very much includes dietary choices.

Lifestyle is socially promoted and therefore becomes acquired and established.

Hopefully new generations of Americans will get a new message.

The current obesity issue will not be solved by an instant click of the fingers.
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Biden sabotages possible bargaining chip for a peace treaty.
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@Greyparrot
"Warhawk"

I don't think that anyone who knows me would describe me as a Warhawk.

Quite the opposite in fact.

I simply counter your comments with what I see as a realistic assessment of the current Russian inspired debacle, based upon fairly recent Russian/Soviet history.

Whereas all that you seemingly set out to do is spuriously promote an anti-Democrat agenda.

Laying false eggs in someone else's nest as it were.

Sort of a Cuckoo.
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Not Us Again!
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@Shila
Reparations from who though.

Everyone is dead and society moved on.

As I said, all you are really advocating is Blacky v Whitey for cash.

So, someone might have a great great great great great Aunt or Uncle who was sold into slavery in the distant past.

So, I might have an ancestor who was enslaved by the Romans in the distant past.

Would I not deserve Italian cash?

You're just cherry picking one bit of World history and social development and hoping to cash in on it.

Rather than doing reasonably well at school and getting a proper job. (Not you personally, I hasten to add. Hopefully you did/or will do reasonably well at school and will get/got a proper job)

As might do "Native Indians" (of course Native Indians were only native for as long as they were native) who previously colonised the Land masses of the Americas.

People moved East and people moved West and the world became colonised and recolonised.

So, perhaps everyone deserves a slice of the reparations pie.
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@Greyparrot
Recent history tells us that U.S. prolonged wars have a tendency to end inconclusively. 

I'm not sure if that is success or failure.


As I see it, the only end to the current Ukrainian debacle will be the end of the current Russian regime, and the only people who can do that is the Russian people.

As things stand, no one is going to make concessions.

Though please prove me wrong Mr Putin.
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The Queen
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@3RU7AL
Well, governed societies are essential to quality of life for the individual. The other option being anarchic chaos, rather than blissful individualism.

So, governed societies tend to follow one of two paths, participatory democracy or oppressive authoritarianism.

So, Britain following the former, has a typical hierarchical social structure which works well relative to how British society has developed over time.

Due largely to an evolved/continually evolving sense of fairness. 

Nonetheless in any society there is still the need for the individual to take responsibility for their own circumstances. Nanny State can also be oppressive.

In my opinion British society strikes a happy balance between care and individual responsibility relative to the natural hierarchical ability of the individual.

In short, men in grey suits don't bother me at all, because I don't bother men in grey suits. They do their thing and I do mine and we get along fine.

Of course, there is always the whinging minority that are never happy. And that's their problem.


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@Greyparrot
What's to bargain?

Russia based people will eventually sort out their own Problem.

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So, what's the difference between vegan food and carnivorous food.
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@Shila
Obesity is not so much about diet, but about lifestyle.

A vegan diet can be just as unhealthy as an omnivorous diet.

Though the former is likely to be under-nourished, rather than over-nourished.


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@Elliott
I agree.


But one must consider whether the system is beneficial in the long term.

And me being a British minion, thinks that it is.
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Would hive-mind collectivism benefit society?
@Poly

What's the point of being in a religion and worshipping an imaginary GOD?

It makes you feel better I suppose.

Whereas I can manage quite well without.


But what does religion make you feel better than?

Wherein lies your need for fantasy escapism?
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Not Us Again!
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@Shila
So why does one group of people have to make financial reparations and another group only have to apologise.

Seems like racist greed to me.

Apologies are cheap and usually meaningless.

It really is just about Blacky getting one over on Whitey isn't it?

And the "British" whosoever they might be, were enslaved so many times in their history, where does one start with reparations.


It really is just about Blacky v Whitey for cash, isn't it?

Be honest.
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@Shila
Africans didn't voluntarily turn up on the west coast of Africa ready for shipping abroad.

Africans sold each other into slavery.

So perhaps they should firstly pay reparations to each other.


Not that the enslavement of people by people wasn't common practice for thousands of years prior to the "Slave Trade".

So where does one start with reparations?

Well, stick a pin in the history book and it always seems to go in the same hole.
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"Gender Affirming Care" is a snare and a delusion
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@Danielle
These days, things people say often have very little to do with base reality.

The ongoing production of alternative realities will inevitably result in alternative disagreements.

Foucault made a living from it.

Smart Guy.
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The Queen
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@3RU7AL
@Elliott
Data storage and transfer is what it is.

What would life be like if we got up every morning and had to rethink everything.
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Would hive-mind collectivism benefit society?
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@Shila
A Zedku for Shila.

Hive mind.

Head down

Tap Tap Tap.

What mind are you hiving?
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Most people dont know how badly the pedophiles are treated in prison
We live in a society of conditioned reality.
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Stricter punishments for troll voters.
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@Novice_II
A troll vote can also be defined as one you don't like.

No matter how sincere a vote might be, there are whingers on this site, who just won't accept that they are not always the best.

Hence, I don't bother to vote.
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Blackwashing vs Whitewashing. The former is GOOD, the latter is BAD. Hypocrisy 101.
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@TWS1405
What about femiwashing?

Who cares as long as they've got nice tits and a cute arse.

And blackfemiwashing?

Who cares as long as they've got nice tits and a cute arse.


Satire of course, before all you gender/race apologists get on your high horses.

And that was satire too.


And for all you gender/race apologists.

What about transblackfemiwashing?

Who cares as long as they've got nice tits and a cute arse.

Also, satire.


Humans are brilliant.
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So, what's the difference between vegan food and carnivorous food.
One might squeal more and be cuter looking than the other when you kill it.

Food chain always has been.

And human intellectual and emotional development AKA overthink has evolved to a point whereby we might categorise the morality of nutritional survival based upon the ability of the food source to squeal and look cute.

Thoughts.
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