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Yep.

I'm buff and oiled.

Penguins.

Crazy birds.

Standing around in the frozen wastes with an egg on their feet.

Whilst the missus goes of and does some fishing.

Some people think that the bible is great.

Some people are easily duped.

That's evolution for you.

But what created life?

Hi Ebuc.

Is the Universe eternally existent and occupied?

Or should I ask...Was the Universe always existent and occupied.

Maybe it wasn't but now is (potentially).

For me, it ceases to be a scientifically answerable question.

And becomes a mind game.

Of course, it's the persons body that decides to start producing gametes.

And when this occurs the body demands copulation.

But minds have chosen to try and overthink the body.

Would be great if we could overthink cancer.

As I always point out.

It's taken over 4 billion years for life to evolve to this level of intellect.

Electronic computers less than 100.

Which ever.

Just another day.

Of course.

Not 1984 but not far off.

Probably too busy scratching it's pseudo cu*t to notice.

Or someone else was scratching it.

Away to go.

Aviation failures tend to end in tragedies, rather than fun times.

Yep.

Freedom of thought is one of our last great freedoms.

If not the last.

But for how long?

Hey, Sidewalker.

Not many years ago at all,  homosexuals were treated just as badly.

But now they are the heroes of our generation.

Here's a question for you.

Over hear the age of consent is sixteen.

So in terms of physiological maturity what's the difference between 15 years and 364 days, and 16 years?

One day of course, and during that one day a person becomes capable of making their own sexual choices, and will also become incorruptible.

What a difference a day makes,

Twenty four little hours.

La la la la la.

Interesting that crypto's value is always referred to in dollars.

Crypto will always have a relative value, doesn't matter what you call it.

So if one crypto is worth $60, and the transsexual prostitute charges $60 per hour.

Then I will owe them a twelfth of a crypto for my blow job.

What is a twelfth of a crypto called?

A dodecacrypto perhaps.

What truth?

Is this another GOD based reference?

Facts are known.

Supposition is what it is.

And truth has a broader definition.

A GOD might or might not exist...This is a truth.

A bible is not a book of verifiable facts...This is another truth.

If a bloke turns up in a spaceship with the letters G O D emblazoned upon it, then we can perhaps move forwards with the truth.

Pregnant virgins and itinerant carpenters, just don't cut the factual mustard.

Yes.

Because it's probably what most folk think but are too repressed to say.

I hasten to add that basic consensual heterosexuality and interim masturbation has always sufficed for me.

No children harmed in the making of this programme.

918 of  45 to 49 year old males, thought that 9 out of ten cats preferred Whiskas cat food.

Wow, that was one hell of a broad in depth study.

Why not survey 82 more and make it a round 1000.

And 45 to 49...Why not 47 to 51 or some other random 4 year period.

Such is Welsh academia I suppose.

Though the Welsh prefer shagging sheep.

And I hasten to add that with regard to such  National proclivities, I am British/English residing in Wales.

Well, basically the whole GOD Jesus myth was so obviously based upon the human condition, several thousand years ago in one very small region of Planet Earth.

Why just make yourself known to a few Arabian blokes?

So, the ideology spread as human intelligence spread across the globe. 

But GOD never seemed to take into account human intellectual and social evolution, which is odd considering it's omniscience.

For a GOD to do what it supposedly did, it must have been intellectually and technologically advanced...And yet it handed out it's social edict to Moses, chiselled onto lumps of rock.

And then there is the whole Mary Jesus palaver...Is that a sensible way for a supremely intelligent being to get a message across.

Nope, it's so obviously the product of human ignorance....As was the ten commandments  story....As was and still is everything transcribed to later bibles.

None of which is not to say that the GOD hypothesis is not reasonable...Or as I refer to it, Interventionist  Super-Intelligence...ISI.

Though the somewhat more logical ISI hypothesis, nonetheless comes with it's own set if imponderable questions.

The upside though, is that pointy buildings, singing hymns, praying and christmas are totally unnecessary...Rightly so in my opinion.

And the evolved emotional conditions you refer to, are just that.

I tend not to get too hung up on love, grief and meaning...The result of a pragmatic upbringing perhaps.

Over to you Trade.

Better at what?

Humans do very badly in space.

We've evolved to rely upon the life support systems of the Earth.

Girls should be asked to pledge under oath that they were gagging for it.

Would save a lot of hassle in the long run.

Boys should similarly be made to pledge that they were cumming in their pants with excitement.

Only joking.

This is a serious topic.

Certainly not my role model.

We probably will eventually.

Though they probably won't look like Marvin.

I've read cases many times.

And I never dispute the probable existence of a person, who is referred to as Jesus in historical Middle Eastern myth and folk tales.

Well as I see it, what we have is historical hearsay, jotted down some time after the event and subsequently transcribed, translated and exaggerated to fit the developing religious ideology.

So there is no actual evidence that a biblical character referred to as Jesus, died and rose again. Though certainly it can be hypothesised such, and ideas developed.

Which isn't to say that the biblical Jesus wasn't based upon a real person. Person being the operative word.

As for the emotions and values that you describe...As I understand it, these are electro-chemical responses to sensory stimuli, and therefore detectable and presumably measurable to some degree.

And for sure, people respond in widely varying ways to sensory stimuli, associated internal data management and consequential ideological conclusions.

Hence you are happy to believe without proof.

And in the absence of concrete evidence, I remain sceptical.

Though currently based upon what we do know, theological hypotheses, to say the least, do seem somewhat fantastical.

Robots are.

Freaky is all in the mind.

A space robot would look at a human and think, wow look at those freaky organic blobs.

Nah.

Virtual reality wanking machines will be as cheap as chips.

The Chinese will churn them out in the millions.

They will also provide you with you first pack of anti bacterial wipes.

Hi Trade.

Science is a naturally occurring faculty associated with thinking beings.

So therefore is the need to understand, theorise and explain.

So GOD the thinking being, was an obvious theoretical proposition for a thinking being to propose.

A sound enough proposition in terms of a theory of universal developmental hierarchy.

Though the associated ritual devotion that developed concurrently, brought very little if nothing to the scientific table.

Ritual devotion in the main, is an unnecessary but seemingly necessary offshoot that mortal beings developed as a coping strategy.

Sort of...Look guys, there might be a GOD, so might as well pray to it and perhaps not die...Failing that, you might die here, but will perhaps go to a magical place called Heaven.

For sure, invent a religion, build a church and write a book about it....But remember, we haven't actually substantiated the theory yet.

And so thinking man was burned at the stake for doubting GOD.

Clever stupid gene.

In my opinion.

The key to longevity is not dying.

A good set of genes for sure.

Though, it is clearly apparent that an active, healthy and mentally positive lifestyle is key to avoiding the exacerbation of common degenerative problems that will inevitably occur if one is inactive, unhealthy and mentally negative.

Nothing wrong with the occasional wank I suppose. I expect that studies have been done.

Keep it up y'all.

Sounds like BK will live for ever at his rate of self abuse.

And of course, they wouldn't do it for free.

As I suggested previously, trading brain cells for cash is a calculated but lucrative risk.

Hey McMieky.

Going soft at 58 is nothing to be ashamed of.

Ask FLRW.

Depending upon universal evolution and it's reasons and/or purposes.

AI, is likely to make most organic organisms redundant.

Whether or not it will abolish them completely, remains to be seen.

Though at this moment in time  over sexed male munchkins will need to evacuate their gametes when and wherever possible.

Ovulation is obviously a less expressive process.

Though the endocrinal need for the female to fuse, is similarly weighted with profound sexuality. 

For sure the process seems amazing, but nonetheless is what it is.

Though everything you explained is just a more technical and expanded version of my explanation.

Whereby incoming "stimuli" are processed internally, and also stored to short term memory.

Presumably any information can also be stored as long term data.

I hope that I will wake up.

I assume that I will wake up, based upon previous experience and confidence in my current health.

I don't believe that I will wake up.

In my opinion, based upon technological advancement, anyone could have been reasonably confident that man would eventually travel to the moon.

Belief wasn't necessary.

Based upon the rate of technological development since JFK's day, I would further suggest that man will venture further afield...But I don't believe this.

Yep, lovely poem fauxlaw.

And I had heard the same rumour.

Good to have you back.

Hope that you are well.

Do gooders think that they are socially righteous.

Whereas hormones are a fact of life.

Observation is the result of an internal process.

So if we take sight for example, what we see is an internal image reconstructed from incoming light signals.

Which for all intent and purposes does seem to be direct observation.

Everything that we experience is actually a simulation reconstructed in the brain from sensory input.

We assume accurately simulated.

Give me an example Mall.

I would say that I function according to knowledge.

But of course, we obviously cannot know outcomes in advance, so there is often an element of risk associated with a course of action.

Though coping with such situations and moving forwards ,means taking a calculated risk based upon experience and/or knowledge. 

Belief is not relevant.

I once saw a video of a guy who believed that if he prayed, he could swim safely in a crocodile infested river....He promptly disappeared never to be seen again.

This was the outcome of a belief based system.

If the guy had made a knowledge based assessment of the situation, his Mum would have been happier.

Wherein lies the illogic in my previous statement?

All barring those with significant developmental anomalies, everyone else is unalterably born one of two gamete producers.

OK, so we can chop things about and become a synthetic hormone drug dependant...Such is the evolution of the mind and sexual fantasy.

And perhaps over time the species will alter biologically...As mind clearly affects psychological systems, so it might also affect biological systems.

Though currently, I would suggest that there is still a distinction to be made between sexual fantasy and sexual reality.

So Mall, what is your logical take on the subject.

All our experiences are internal.

Self contained.

Electrochemically powered.

In my opinion, I fully engaged, albeit somewhat satirically.

What to do with your dick and all those endocrinal messages.

You're caught up in the world of socio-psychological recreational sexual fantasy. (Nothing new)

What to do with all those gametes.

The body says one thing and the mind says another.

So settle down with a partner, get a puppy and a new fitted kitchen and shoot your load from time to time.

You can always adopt or find a surrogate, if you want a child to call your own and your partner isn't the egg producing sort.

Grow older shoot your load once a month if you can get it up.

And eventually die.

One of the drawbacks of being a modern human, rather than a proper hunter gatherer.

Nope, that is not correct in my book.

If one doesn't know something, then that is that.

Believing that one knows something is a tad silly, isn't it?

And why would I need to believe in myself?

Within the limits of the self, I accept what I know.

Depends upon how you define the word I suppose.

For you... Is "belief" just a trivial word, with a hundred synonyms?

For me it has a specific meaning.

I always think that afterthoughts are pointless.

But, perhaps there was some nugget of knowledge that might have made a lasting difference.

I'm content enough to not need to worry about it now though.

Procreational sex is one thing.

And socio-psychologically inspired recreational sex is another thing.

If a cis male fucks a Kangaroo, does that make him a marsupial.

NO...He remains an organism that produces male gametes.

I do not believe anything.

One can either know or not know.

One can be hopeful or uncertain or assumptive etc.

Or have faith, even.

But to simply accept something without proof is futile in terms of knowledge gathering.

Which isn't to say that for some, belief does not produce positive electro-chemical reactions in their brain.

If I made a convincing argument for turnips, would that convince you to become a turnip.

You sound like me.

Country...Wales UK.

Occupation...Semi-retired, multi tasker.  Currently working part time for a Pharmacy Company.

Religion...None. Though The GOD principle is a sound enough hypothesis.

Priorities...Health and fitness and Immediate family.

Political ideology...Nothing that I can pinpoint. Eclectic but reasonably moderate.

You never know. 

Technology moves on apace.

Maybe one day we will be able to down load our conscious minds to an electronic device. And live for ever on line.

Does it have a middle, or is it just relative?