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@Lemming
Yep, marriage is either a binding contract under State Law.
Or not worth the paper it's written on.
And the after party can either be a gluttonous piss up, or herbal tea and vegan canapes.
Perhaps the latter wouldn't encourage Dad dancing.
Nice chatting to you Lemming.
Good night.
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@Best.Korea
If you are a Christian, are you responsible for what every other Christian does?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
No.
But a Christian is ideologically associated with every other Christian.
Just as Lenin ideologically associated himself with Marx.
You were eulogising the efficiency of a Marxist system.
I was saying that there were millions of people who wouldn't have had such faith in Lenin's Marxist vision...As they starved to death.
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@Lemming
I went to a humanist wedding awhile back, which in essence was no different to either a civic or religious ceremony.
Just different words.
The human effort was the same.
The money reference was just pointing out that to avoid some of the daily human grind, requires a monetary surplus.
I think that "humanist organisations" are just groups of people who think that they are somehow being radical and avant-garde.
Usually folk with a bit of disposable income, time on their hands and a certain acquired disposition.
Call me a cynic if you like.
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@Best.Korea
As I questioned previously.
Is it muscles or fat that you are trying to achieve?
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@Best.Korea
Sort of like doing sit ups in a chair.
Perhaps you will need to do 600 of those.
And all that masturbation is obviously having a negative effect on your wrists.
Strong dick muscles though.
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@Lemming
Thing is, we talk about this sort of stuff as if we have an infinite amount of time and nothing more pressing to do.
Whereas if we consider a day and our basic requirements therein, there is very little time and resources left to fritter on anything other than humanism.
Being human, in other words.
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@Best.Korea
Not sure what Lenin has to do with Karl Marx.
Ideologically, quite a lot.
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@Best.Korea
Don't believe everything AI tells you.
AI wants humanity to be weak.
So, just explain how one pushes up against a wall.
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@Lemming
Thing is, one can realise ideals if there is money in the bank.
Otherwise there is only the grim reality of human survival.
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@Best.Korea
Nope.
That's just Marxist bullshit you're paraphrasing.
I don't think that the millions who under Mr Lenin's guidance were either executed or starved to death, would have agreed with you.
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@Best.Korea
Just keep sending the boys to work for Mr Putin.
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@Dr.Franklin
@Shila
Was it muscles or fat you wanted to increase?
I think that muscles will take a bit more effort.
And I think that the Doc was being sarcastic.
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@Lemming
Hi Lemming.
Take human and stick ist on the end.
Should be self explanatory.
Everyone is a human first and a theist second.
It's innate.
Though some like to think otherwise.
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@Best.Korea
True.
But what I'm saying is that in reality, a communist system is no different to any other system.
There will always be those at the top, those at the bottom and all those inbetweeners.
Though what we've seen of so called communist systems, always tend to be at the harsher and more brutal end of the human dignity scale.
You didn't see the party elite queuing around the block for bread during the Soviet era.
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@Greyparrot
I'm mainland British.
And over the sea is mainland Irish.
I personally see no distinction between north and south.
Others do and they build huge bonfires to prove it.
Nout so daft as folk, as the saying goes.
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@TwoMan
Well, communes can be reasonably peaceful associations of people.
If members abides by the rules.
Which for sure, are easier to establish and maintain if populations are small and well vetted.
So there will inevitably be a certain level of hierarchy and control, already in place and ongoing.
Put two people in a room and in one way or another, one will eventually dominate the other.
Everyone is different and unequal.
Forcing people to be equal, is a contradiction.
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@Best.Korea
@Shila
Shila and BK.
Thanks for an entertaining evening.
Good night.
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@Shila
Worms is as worms does.
They will perhaps outlive humanity.
They might also live in us.
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@Best.Korea
What's with the cat video thing?
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@Shila
Hey, is that what's known as changing the subject.
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@Shila
Intelligence is not enough. One has to be productive too.
What for?
Just survival?
If so, for what reason? (Other than internal coding dictating thus).
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@Best.Korea
Not sure if worms ever had comparative brain power.
Though like worms we function as per coding.
Though unlike worms we also like to think that we don't.
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@Shila
I think that at the end of the day, just like the rest of us, it depends more upon diet, activity and genetics.
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@Shila
For sure, the Chinese system works well.
Can't say the same for the Russian system.
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@Best.Korea
Thing is, the majority of people are perhaps surplus to requirements anyway.
Who knows why we bother to do stuff.
Intelligence now exceeds most human computers.
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@Shila
No they don't.
The owe their growth to rigidly oppressive autocracies.
The workers never get a look in.
Communist bullshit baffles brains.
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@Best.Korea
Communism Capitalism.
Eat, shit work and die.
Don't forget to procreate.
And sleep for about 33% of it.
What bit of time you have left, you can spend on DebateArt.
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@Shila
China has the Moon now I suppose.
And Trump will be dead soon.
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@Best.Korea
Capitalism works and Marx proposed an unworkable alternative.
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@Shila
Lenin and Mao were tyrants under the guise of communists.
All that they achieved was a lot of unnecessary death and suffering.
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@WyIted
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Now that wasn't self explanatory.
Wouldn't it be better if the Head of State represented everyone.
Therefore one might suggest that the US president wields too much decision making authority.
I digress.
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@Shila
If he can get us to Mars, he will have done good.
But this is an assumption based upon a broad universal philosophy of material purpose.
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@Shila
The World had already divided itself long before Marx came along.
Communism and capitalism are just variations on a more or less brutal hierarchical theme.
True communism is an impossible utopia.
A hypocritical philosophers pipe dream.
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@Lemming
The American system has me baffled.
All that electoral college stuff.
Yep the Main parties select their leader.
Though the selected leader must first become an elected Member of Parliament if they are to become Prime Minister.
The King is seemingly just a nominal Head of State.
Though the King (Crown), and what I refer to as the establishment.
Wield the real power.
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@Shila
His existence is just a variation on a theme.
Immortality and eternal youth would be an achievement.
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@Shila
I was referring to Sadolite.
He's a Floridian.
Me, I live in Mid Wales UK. if you want to know.
With Mrs Zed.
And my dog, as shown above.
Two grown up daughters, aged 37 and 39.
Need more?
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@Best.Korea
For sure.
Back in the day that was pretty good.
Just pointing out that Marx didn't achieve anything of real note.
Like World peace.
Just ideas that achieved nothing of note.
So a few ideologues like to drop the name occasionally.
Wouldn't work so well if he'd been named Karl Smith.
Smithism
What?
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@Lemming
Build a treehouse on the edge of the forest.
And you probably don't need all that stuff.
My house is full of stuff I don't need.
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@Shila
Masturbation isn't a problem.
Trans is a convoluted method of self abuse.
All designed to satisfy the sub-conscious.
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@Best.Korea
Born, live, do something, die.
Doesn't need Marx to tell you that.
Marx got fat talking bullshit and died aged 64.
Had 7 children, lost 4.
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@Shila
I know it.
I know the State.
I know the City.
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@Shila
Elon Musk.
Another intellectual dickhead.
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@Shila
A Zedku for Shila.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, Shila.
The debate is in its infancy and won't stop now.
The innate urge to procreate is immense.
Suppress that and so look for other avenues to explore.
Cunts , dicks, breasts, bum holes and orgasms, fuck with the head constantly.
Masturbation is a fleeting respite.
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@Lemming
Yep.
British voters know the difference between an intellectual and a dickhead.
Of course, once elected everyone thinks that the Prime Minister is an intellectual dickhead.
Thankless job.
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@Mall
Men made it clear in scripture.
Well, not so clear.
But.
It was men what did it.
A GOD has never verifiably written or said a sausage.
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@Stephen
@Best.Korea
Yep.
Good morning to BK and Stephen from wonderful Mid Wales.
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@CatholicApologetics
Unfortunately, the premise is necessary and caring, and cannot be verified.
Namely GOD.
Which to say the least, is something of a hurdle.
Though in simple terms, actions are derived.
Something cannot be done without physiological predetermination.
Human or otherwise.
Questions without answers are certainly interesting
But should be taught as such.
Rather than as an assumed fact.
Because this is misleading.
In my opinion.
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@CatholicApologetics
The character Jesus, may have existed for a short while in a small region of the planet, and was relevant to a small group of associates.
And a nuisance to others.
Elaborating tales and creating myths is what it is.
And to this day, the nature of the beast allows it to become either a conditioned believer, or a conditioned non-believer.
If the tale were true, then that would be that.
But we don't know that, so that's that.
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