zedvictor4

Debt is just one of those human things.

A bit like expediency.

Striving  to be selfless, is a self centred purpose.

There's no escaping the cranial prison.

You just asked a question.

And answered it in the next line.

Money is what makes society and progress tick.

Will be interesting to see what more you have to say.

Very true.

What happened to Lemming?

A Lunatic suffering with dementia.

You just explained the significance of Elon Musk in 47 words.

The whole American political system is about the elite rich.

In fact all political systems are about the elite, who will undoubtedly accrue wealth from their exploits.

Easy to use site with a good mix of users.

What more does one require.

A medal for existing perhaps?

Or you could just ignore it.

Yep, great idea for a story.

Though I think a better idea would be an omni-sensible GOD.

But like you said...It's all ideas.

And too be honest, floating orbs also make for good sci-fi.

Though as a system of personal data transfer, not really a 2000 year improvement on todays data transfer methods.

If an improvement at all.

Tap Tap Tap Send is all that it takes now.

I think that you guys were tired and therefore rambling a bit.

Two  sensible younger people who share the same desire to improve the lives of all Americans, and to bring about World peace.

Fucking boring hey!

All that is required.

Is a super out of this world spacecraft.

And a six foot Caucasian hippy to stroll down the exit ramp surrounded by angel bodyguards.

That would be too obvious though.

Nope it's up a mountain with Moses, chiselling lumps of rock.

Moses is the old Hebrew word for Derek I presume.

Though I thought that Derek was the old Latin word for basket case.

If you get my drift.

Actually Derek Moses  still holds the record as the youngest person to cross the River Nile in a basket.

Hence the term, chicken in a basket.

And the old joke, why did the chicken cross the road.

Keep waltzing Matilda.

For sure.

He's make believe and can do anything.

Though with the best will in the world, I wouldn't refer to presenting Moses with ten tablets of stone as particularly super-natural.

I rather think that inscribing  stones, was a clumsy old human way of recording and presenting data.

Cutting edge technology back then though.

Funny how GOD didn't have this technology when he first started sending us messages..

It was burning bushes and tablets of stone back in the day.

Odd for an omniscient one.

Not even ten neatly penned sides of A4, photocopied for Moses to distribute.

Is a profoundly correct statement.

Remove the thinking process, and we would still be hiding up trees, out of the reach of apex predators.

What would there be without an evolutionary process of material development and manipulation? 

For sure no rockets, but also no hard core science, engineering or competent people.

And social order dictates progress.

So we currently have Musk near the top of the tree.

And a thousand and one scientists and engineers, much lower down.

It's the way things work.

And I have a nice little niche somewhere near the bottom.

Though we will all succumb to the vagaries of time, in no more than a fleeting universal moment.

So one cannot afford to waste ones time worrying about what was, what is and what will be.

Hesitancy is perhaps sometimes more prudent than over-confidence in certain situations.

Though:

I would suggest that Global words in the sky, are unlikely to convince anyone of anything, other than that someone wrote global words in the sky.

Unless there was a very big bloke with a very big big piece of paper and a very big  pencil.

And probably a very big beard.

As it was, Feb 13 was very overcast, so I missed the very big global words.

Well, to be perfectly honest.

I credit the evolutionary process and all the factors therein, that afford material development.

Which includes the development of intellect, knowledge and the ability to manipulate.

Alongside this, human society has also evolved, and is ordered and functions in a particular way.

So it's fair to suggest that any single factor retrospectively removed from the evolutionary equation, would result in a retrograde position.

The butterfly effect as it were.

Fortunately, time does not allow us to meddle either in the past or the future.

So for now, you will have to tolerate Elon Musk's existence.

I wouldn't disagree.

Though I would  go further and suggest that everything is reliant upon knowledge.

And by everything, I mean everything.

Or the pound coin.

Yes, it's nice to think that one is allowed a reasonable level of selfish  input.

The idea is the innovation.

You just seem to not like the personality for some reason.

I know very little about him.

But he seems to get things done.

And "paying" is perhaps one of the biggest obstacles that stands in the way of progress. 

Great song. BK.

I'm the anti-tank missile man.

Who cooks the brave tankmen.

Inside their trundling saucepans.

Alive alive ho oh.

Alive alive ho.

I'm the droneman.

That sits in his office

Over the seas and far away

Alive alive ho oh

Alive alive ho.

Neither brave nor courageous.

Just a day at the office.

Then I'll pop home for tea.

Alive alive ho oh 

Alive alive ho.

Do you mean dumb?

Or do you mean dumb?

Or do you mean both, as a result of inbreeding in the swamps and backwoods?

He's an innovator.

And I would suggest that innovators are "useful" for the future, and do not necessarily need to concern themselves with ongoing social issues.

Which isn't to say that they don't.

Actually I would suggest that innovators are a necessity, rather than just plain useful.

Yep.

Hopefully politicians who lead the "Free World", are also diplomats.

And racist is your word.

I prefer discriminatory.

How one responds outwardly to internal discrimination is the key to diplomacy. Both at a home and abroad.

And weaving is what people do on looms.

Words hey.

As for your last paragraph.

Deistic belief and theo-speak is indicative of your conditioning.

Just as my words are indicative of me.

Though out of tradition, some guy  did splash water on my head when I was a few moths old.

And Religion was compulsory at infant school.

Nonetheless, with my Dad's assistance, I came to my own conclusions. HaHa.

And are religious prophets, charlatans?

Hey, your free to choose.

Though in the end, if there is a GOD, I bet it's very logical and sensible.

And not the crazy discriminatory being, as described by prophets.

They proposed the theory of GOD and Heaven

They said their prayers and pulled the trigger.

Now.

Did they overthink the theory wisely.

Or underthink the possible consequences of overthinking the theory.

Have a great day Deb.

And watch out for Kangaroos.

I will reply in full later.

But one thing I would point out is:

Recorded civilisation can only be as recorded if civilisation can be recorded.

Racism is broadly defined.

From normal instinctive discrimination to overtly aggressive discrimination.

So please be more specific.

It could be said that all governmental policies that are designed to bring about social order or a change in social order, are based upon some level of discrimination.

So for example, the immigration policies of any government that seeks to protect a nations established sovereignty and assets, are based upon discrimination.

Wasn't it George Dubya who signed the Secure Fence Act?

Well, it's clear that you base you reasoning upon a religious precept.

So it must be pointed out that just like the modifiable relationship, religion is no more or less a human social construct.

And lust, can be used to describe any necessary response to procreational drive, heterosexual, homosexual, masturbation or other.

And the success of the "tribe" is reliant upon the fecundity of it's members.

And within a modern context,  the modifiable relationship does not seem to affect either fecundity or the willingness to procreate.

But let's be logical and also say that from a truly deistic point of view there would only be one tribe...Namely the Human tribe.

And whether or not it was "placed" here by a deity is another contentious issue.

As is, what such a deity might actually think...It would be a tad arrogant to assume that we knew what it's thoughts were.

For sure, out of the number of appropriate brains that are available at any given time, it would perhaps be possible to programme most if not all with the relevant data.

But I do have my doubts about this... I'm not sure that all normally functioning brains do possess the same capability or desire.

Though teaching the masses how to utilise techno-innovations is not really what I'm driving at.

How many will have the ability to expand upon old data and create new...You cannot teach/programme a brain if the relevant data does not yet exist.

I would suggest that the ratio of innovator capability to user ability is very low.

One in thousands maybe, or even one in millions?

Yep, I cannot refute that either.

Material evolution has been slow.

Though seemingly, material manipulation and development at the hands of humans is somewhat exponential.

In this context, intelligence is all about the ability to acquire, store and utilise information.

So in terms of colonising elsewhere, relative to 300000years of evolution, I would suggest that we will be getting there sooner rather than later.

100 years or 500, unfortunately we won't be around to find out.

Answer me this though.

Billions of people have learned how to utilise smartphones, but how many of those billions know how the technology works?

And how many out of 8billion and counting, will ever understand genetic engineering?

Yep, I cannot refute any of that.

I tend to speculate about the long term.

And how long is a piece of string.

Though it cannot be argued that intelligence and sexuality are not evolving factors of the human species.

Similarly genetic engineering, although in it's infancy, will also inevitably evolve.

As will the colonisation of elsewhere.

Why colonise space with numpties?

Wouldn't that be a backward step?

Yep.

Raspberries grow wild in the woods here in Wales...Similarly blackberries.

Very few people pick them. I do.

Black/red/white currants and gooseberries also very easy to produce.

Elderberries also grow wild in abundance and make excellent syrup.

Elderflowers also make an excellent summer cordial and wine.

Also an abundance of wild strawberries, though they are very small, so I grow cultivated varieties.

Wild damsons and hedgerow plums abound.

Keep up the good work BK.

Social trend relative to human social evolution relative to ongoing socio-psychological angst.

Bloke = sperm producer

Woman = egg producer.

Bloke that has their dick and balls removed = just that.

Women that wear strap-ons = just that.

If you wish to construe the phrase over-replenished as meaning the same as over-populated, then that is entirely up to you.

Though over-replenished was simply a response to your concerns of human replenishment.

And homosexual relationships are obviously not heterosexual relationships.

Though homosexual relationships do not necessarily diminish fecundity or procreational desires.

Gay and Lesbian couples are very proficient at raising families.

You are confusing procreational sex and recreational sex.

Relationships are a human social construct, and therefore modifiable, whether you like it or not.

For sure.

For as long as sexuality remains inbred it will remain as a primary instinctive urge.

So genetic modification would be a solution to this.

Not that any of this is going to happen tomorrow.

As I always point out, it's taken approximately 300000 years to get this far.

Though to secure the long term future of humanity, it would only be necessary to breed a limited colony of super-intellectual, asexual humans.

Somewhere else perhaps.

There's a difference between government policies and an individuals acquired propensity to discriminate.

Which is why I asked previously, who do you think actually run's the USA.

Sociology is a broad subject.

So a very brief two line response to your second question.

Natural hierarchy dictates social order, so originally a pecking order within the troop would have naturally evolved.

Money and other tokens of value would have come much later, as intellect developed and populations grew.

Sounds like the title of a song from the musical, Washington.

Yes they did.

They ignored the fact.

No they didn't.

And currency is a necessary tool that dictates social order.

And technological data sources certainly affect current thinking.

Future populations on Planet Earth are some what irrelevant in terms of material evolution. (This is a generalisation)

And your concerns seem to focus mainly on human sexual and procreative acts.

Sexual acts simply relieve urges, just as they have always done.

And procreation no longer relies upon male/female copulation...Other methodology has evolved as intellect and knowledge has evolved.

As I often suggest:

Asexuality and selective breeding is perhaps the direction in which humanity is heading.

One might also speculate that this is the way that universal events are meant to go.

LOL.

You sound like my Dad.

Not that I'm not starting to sound like my Dad.

Homosexual acts are not intended to result in procreation, and I never suggested that they were.

Homosexual acts are a long establish method of relieving and enjoying procreational urges.

Acts that certainly predate Christianity by many thousands of years.

Neither did I suggest that 8.1 billion is indicative of over-population.

It was you that suggested that homosexuality might affect the replenishment of the Earth.

Which it clearly doesn't.

And education is as education does.

All formative education is brainwashing to a degree, irrespective of whether one chooses to label  incoming data and it's provider/s as either left, right or central.

And you think that the phrase "constructs of satanism " is not "nonsense".

Such is indicative of how your database was conditioned.

As I stated, most people just go with the flow and the bullshit, and never bother to give it a second thought.

We already do.

Though we haven't yet streamlined the process.

I'm guessing that it will just naturally streamline itself, in response to evolutionary requirements...Such as escaping Planet Earth.

8.1 billion and counting.

The Earth is well over-replenished.

And if homosexuality is a mental change then so are smartphones and computer games.

Nope, homosexuality is just an intellectually adapted recreational form of procreative activity.

Just as smartphones are an intellectually adapted means of data transfer.

Q. And how do you know what normal is?

A. Because everything is normal.

Everything that occurs within a universe at any given moment is naturally occurring.

And that includes believing in biblical tales and magical floaty about blokes

Sounds OK.

But I regulate my meat intake, especially processed meats like salami, ham or bacon.

In fact I rarely eat processed meat these days.

Anchovies are just small strips of salted fish and are very tasty.