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Trent0405

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China is a bigger threat to America than Russia

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Trent0405

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Publication date: 07.11.2019 06:01AM
Last updated date: 08.05.2019 05:45PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 3
Time for argument: Three days
Max argument characters: 2,700
Voting period: One week
Point system: Winner selection
Voting system: Open

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Udit

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Round 1

Trent0405

07.19.2019 05:28PM

Pro

WW=world wide.

China is a bigger threat to America than Russia in the sense that China is a bigger threat to America's spot as the strongest nation in the world.

China is much wealthier than Russia. The 3 ways I typically see wealth measured in is nominal GDP, GDP PPP, and GDP per capita.

Nominal- China=13.6 trillion(2nd WW). Russia=1.6 trillion(11th WW).

PPP- China=25.3 trillion(1st WW). Russia=4 trillion(6th WW).

GDP per capita- China=9.8 thousand (88th WW) Russia=11.3 thousand (81st WW). Some semi autonomous regions are counted like Hong Kong, that's why both rank so low.

To address GDP per capita, China's GDP per capita hasn't fallen since 1987. But, Russia's GDP per capita has fallen 7 thousand dollars since 2013. China is certainly on pace to pass the Russian GDP per capita.

I know you'll reference the Russian military which ranks second WW while China's ranks 3rd. But, this point becomes trivial if the other nation holds a larger population pool, and a larger economy, if necessary China could presumably field more tanks, boats, aircraft, and nuclear missiles If necessary because of it's larger economy. China also spends more than two times more on military defense than Russia, largely due to how large the Chinese economy is. Lastly, Russia's military strength is deceiving, if you look at Russia's tank numbers you see that Russia has 4 times the amount of tanks that America has. This is misleading because of all of the old and outdated tanks that are counted, America opted to scrap old tanks while Russia opted to stored them. Russia still holds tanks like the T-35/85 and the T-54. these tanks were early cold war and late WW2 era tanks.

China is also becoming more influential by the day. China's foreign investments have swayed countries away from America and toward China, we see this clearly in the way these nations vote in the UN. This has led to China being the third biggest lender WW while Russia ranks tenth.

I also fail to see how a nations military is more important than a nations economy. None of the worlds 44 largest economies have fought each other since WW2, while financially nations panicking over their productivity, debt, and foreign financial influence. Buying goods on the market has become cheaper and easier, while ceasing them by force is becoming harder and harder. The best example of this is Russia itself, when Russia seized the Crimea, sanctions crippled their economy, leading to it falling by over one trillion dollars in two years. Over those same two years China's economy grew by about 1.5 trillion dollars, and it wasn't through conquering foreign entities, it was through creating jobs, and new technologies.

Udit

07.22.2019 05:28PM

Con

Forfeited

Round 2

Trent0405

07.23.2019 03:12PM

Pro

China's population is larger, this makes it's economy and military more scalable than Russia's.

Udit

07.26.2019 03:12PM

Con

Forfeited

Round 3

Trent0405

07.26.2019 05:45PM

Pro

China is stronger, for all of the reasons listed above.

Udit

07.29.2019 05:45PM

Con

Forfeited

Vader

07.22.2019 06:25PM

Depends on the way you look at the scenario. China's economy and technology is continoulsy growing and will be feared soon

Trent0405

07.19.2019 05:30PM

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@Barney

ohhhh, I thought something was fishy, he posted a troll vote on my Germany France debate. Thank you for letting me know. how would one go about contacting an admin, (looked it up online, couldn't find anything)