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Cattle Mutilations are Mostly Explained by Natural Biological Phenomenon

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After 4 votes and with 14 points ahead, the winner is...

oromagi
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THBT: Cattle Mutilations are Mostly Explained by Natural Biological Phenomenon

This debate was prompted an AP Story last week regarding the July discovery of 5 bull corpses in Eastern Oregon.

https://www.apnews.com/3db8829a222e45b08ed93834f792e9c5

DEFINITIONS:

CATTLE MUTILATION is "the killing and mutilation of cattle under unusual, usually bloodless and anomalous circumstances. Worldwide, sheep, horses, goats, pigs, rabbits, cats, dogs, bison, deer and elk have been reported mutilated with similar bloodless excisions; often an ear, eyeball, jaw flesh, tongue, lymph nodes, genitals and rectum are removed."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_mutilation

MOSTLY [adverb] is "mainly or chiefly; for the most part; usually, generally, on the whole."

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mostly

EXPLAINED [verb] is the simple past tense of
EXPLAIN [verb] is "To make plain, manifest, or intelligible; to clear of obscurity; to illustrate the meaning of"

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/explain#English

NATURAL [adjective] is "existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind."

https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/natural

BIOLOGICAL [adjective] is of or relating to
BIOLOGY [noun] is "the living organisms of a particular region" (In this case, ordinary plant and animal activities as distinct from human or alien activity)

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/biology

PHENOMENON [noun] is a "thing or being, event or process, perceptible through senses; or a fact or occurrence thereof"

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/phenomenon

BURDEN of PROOF

Burden of Proof is shared. However, any extraordinary claims (aliens, cultists, cryptids, etc.) should be supported by evidence of extraordinary quality and quantity.
PRO will show that cattle mutilations are mostly just misinterpretations of ordinary biological processes.
CON will show that cattle mutilations are mostly perpetrated by some human or alien activity.

PRO is requesting sincere and friendly engagement on this subject.
No trolls or kritiks, please.

- RULES --
1. Forfeit=auto loss
2. Sources may be merely linked in debate as long as citations are listed in comments
3. No new args in R3
4. For all relevant terms, individuals should use commonplace understandings that fit within the rational context of this resolution and debate

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@oromagi

I think Turmeric was put there by Jesus to kill us. Jesus who has the same number of letters as Satan. And look, two S's transposed (and moved) for the place of two A's, obviously they're the same! Christ also has the same first letter as Claws, and another S at (or near) the end. The bible even warned us against listening to the bible, as Satan would try to trick us into believing in false ideologies! 😉

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@Barney

absolutely. You know, all of nature is quite toxic given sufficient dosage. One daisy, fine. 273 daisies will croak you every time.

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@oromagi

But is turmeric a Natural Biological Phenomenon?

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@Barney

We are already arguing 273 & John Kerry is a demon disguised as an alien disguised as lizard man trapped at the South Pole

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@Barney

I could argue turmeric killed the cows. Terrible stuff, turmeric

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@oromagi
@crossed

Maybe you two should debate this topic?

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@oromagi

Why do you think that animals being gutted can happen naturally.Animals do not naturally loose there eyeballs.That is an insane viewpoint that you hold. Given how rampant the occult is nowadays.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv_-yc055n1fxFfTYpdaKBg

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@oromagi

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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@oromagi

That is a great premise

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@Wylted

Bamboo is actually incredible stuff- a fast growing grass that is useful as food and as woody material for tools, construction, etc. I've thought about an apocalyptic fiction called "The Boo" where scientists genetically modify bamboo to grow super fast for cheap material and the stuff starts growing everywhere, strangling trees and farms and gardens, starving animals, sucking water and nutrients out of the soil so fast that world populations collapse. Then, when huge tracts of land are covered in tall bamboo, the stuff dries out and burns at an unstoppable rate and then restarts.

I had a house where bamboo was growing in my yard at some point, and people kept stealing the bamboo when I wasn't home. The previous owner grew it not me, but I am still confused by the thing

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@oromagi

It looks like a dollar store version of a tree to me

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@Wylted

bamboo is grass

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@oromagi

I thought they eat bamboo or some shit. The grass eating does make me doubtful they exist now

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@Wylted

a giant raccoon that only eats 30lbs of grass per day? Panda's are clearly mythological

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@zedvictor4

People also mocked the cryptozoologists who said Panda bears exist. Keep thinking science has nothing new to discover like an idiot

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@oromagi

Yep. As ever.

Chupa Cabre, Yeti, Loch Ness Monster et al.

But unsurprisingly no one as actually (verifiably) seen one.

And some people still like to think that the Earth is flat. Probably the same people who like to think that the Chupa Cabre exist.

How better to promote the idea, than to go out and kill a few unsuspecting ruminants.

The most interesting thi g I have found that seems real, is giants. It seems even skeletal remains have been dug up but museums who own the remains are reluctant to put them on display or allow researchers access, indicating some sort of legit conspiracy

I think aliens would most likely be interdimensional beings, we probably have some even in our galaxy, but they are not as advanced as us or are disinterested in us. The ancient alien conspiracies are very interesting though. Spent a ton of time digging into Zechariah Sitchen's stuff and him personally,as well as other things which all seem to use him as a jumping off point for their research.

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@oromagi

Yeah, definitely would be curious about what you dug up in a more general way, conspiracies interest me, but not crypto zoology or cow mutilations. I even like alien conspiracies, but I put mutilations on the same level as crop circles. Boring. Black helicopters is something I have not dug into, but it could be fun

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@Wylted

I have researched a little and written some on the history and mythology of the "black helicopters." I don't think they'll come up in this short debate but I'd be happy to pontificate on their origin and relationship to mutilations in some other venue.

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@oromagi

Explain the black helicopters around these things if the government isn't sicking Chupa Cabre's on the cows.

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@oromagi

Idiots, don't know it's actually Chupa Cabre.

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@Wylted

The classic perps are aliens, cryptids, occultists, and bad government in order of popularity. I am refuting any of these as the major cause, which I believe is natural.

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@PressF4Respect

I won't be arguing that most of these animals bled out before discovery.

Actually I'm an idiot. I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING NOW

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@oromagi

The theory is it is caused by aliens,so limiting it to human kind is unfair to the type of opponent who would accept the debate.

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@oromagi

Mutilations, by definition, require the loss of blood. You can't rip a body part out without expecting some bleeding. In these cases, it's just that the animals already bled out

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@zedvictor4

Please note that for this debate natural has been defined as not made or caused by humankind

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@oromagi

"Natural Biological Phenomenon" In other words, Human Beings.

Fully explained.

Where's the debate?

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@bmdrocks21

Chupacabra is a later version of the same phenomenon.

But, like.... the cattle version.

Nah fam, it's the Chupacabre.