Instigator / Pro
11
1566
rating
29
debates
56.9%
won
Topic
#1717

There is nothing wrong with pineapple on a pizza

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
3
9
Better sources
2
6
Better legibility
3
3
Better conduct
3
3

After 3 votes and with 10 points ahead, the winner is...

WaterPhoenix
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
1,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
21
1512
rating
12
debates
54.17%
won
Description

-- BoP --

Con has to prove that putting pineapple pizza a wrong of some sort

Pro has to refute Con's arguments

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

As a Chicagoan, I am very passionate on Hot Dogs and Pizza

Pro source outweighs CON because it is a direct refute to the point, while CON's is talking about influence, which does not mean anything due to the fact that the source is invalid it is called divisive, therefore that source is turned and CON gets point.

CON does not deep enough into his source and instead really just says, look at it. CON's point that Tomato is in the Pizza outweighs since a contrasting flavor overall in Pizza can be acceptable, as it used in Pizza. I feel as if the BoP by CON is never contested enough by PRO in the case and does not go after the points enough. I think the Pineapple as a waste of sources is a weak argument overall, so I don't evaluate any sides. I think the BoP is better defended by CON, so I will give args to CON

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Honestly the debate did not get deep enough for me to clearly say if there is something wrong or not.

The most standout argument I would say is that pineapple pizzas just go into the garbage. It so wanted to be a great argument, but made no sense. It's about like saying some people prefer steak, so salads should not be an option.

The defense of tomato is an interesting point. I've personally had sliced tomato as a topping many times, but both debaters seemed to believe that tomato only goes on pizza in sauce form... A problem here is that just because it's accepted, would not mean there's nothing wrong with it; especially since con did not make the argument that pineapple is wrong for being a fruit; and it's an apples to oranges comparison anyway.

So the one point of the debate I will say has a clear lead is the sources. Con flipped pro's source to be in his favor. Perhaps were the debate to have gone on another round, pro might have shown that such matters only make pizza more popular as a whole, but as is, pro's own source was used to imply there might be something wrong with pineapple on pizza. Had the debate gone another round and such a point was not raised, I would likely be giving arguments to con (I give less weight to things in the final round after no one can respond).

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

I don't buy Con's argument that pineapple on pizza is a waste of resources, Pro notes that Con would have to prove that too much pineapple pizza is being produced in relation to what's being consumed, he never does this.

The BoP for pro is to prove there is nothing wrong with pineapple on pizza. Con proved to me that pineapple on pizza caused unnecessary controversy for being so divisive. Funnily enough, it turns out that Pro's source intended to rebut this merely supported Con's statement. Pro's source also just says pineapple pizza is influential, this doesn't address the statement that pineapple on pizza is controversial as Con points out. So Con demonstrated that, despite how influential pineapple on pizza is, it's divisive and causes unhealthy controversy. Therefore I'm lead to believe that there is at least one thing wrong with pineapple pizza.