Luigi is better than Mario
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My last opponent decided to forfeit, and I want someone that is actually good to accept this debate.
Good/Better: Having (more) desirable qualities
Mario: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario
Luigi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi
Free citing of sources. Semantical exploits and deliberate trolling will automatically give the conduct point to the opponent. Forfeiting also does that.
Good Luck!
Gist:
I enjoyed the comedy, and in grading by either standard con takes the win.
1. smarter: this is a weird one, as L kind of won in the weighting here, but in a way that was flipped to be detrimental to his case.
A. Taste in women:
Pro asserts that L would like to date Daisy who slaps Peach’s boyfriend Bowser, and that M ditches politicians, angels, and normal girls, for princess Peach who is a bad ruler.
Con immediately points out this debate is supposed to be centered on the heroic plumbers, instead of their girlfriends. Con implicitly questions is worth can be measured by such a standard.
B. Business:
L owns a mansion, whereas M crashes at his girlfriend’s palace. M also treats said palace like a mobile home. M throws expensive parties (pro repeatedly brings this up), and L does not.
Con begins building a case of how sly L is in business… He further questions if L’s money might be dirty, given that he claims to the IRS that he works as a “plumber,” but owns a mansion.
Pro continues to cite L’s massive wealth, which is at this point harmed by him claiming to have it all from being the co-owner of a family plumbing business, which was apparently abandomed way back in “1983.”
2. Personality
Con brings up their mirror universe counterparts, to show that L is at his core a cowardly whiner, and M is brave in any form. L gets a little credit here, as pro previously brought up him risking his own live to save Peach whenever Mario is unavailable. Still, Mario’s consistent honesty and drive to do right by his friends shines.
3. Skill: M, by a slight margin
M is an innovator, who invented the wall jump, which L only copied later rather than figuring out a move of his own. This was to surpass L being naturally born gifted at jumping; which is a clear case of working smarter, making that a harmful phrase for pro to use in his final round as the wall jumps were already in evidence.
Pro defends that L knows how to operate a vacuum cleaner, and calls out M for steroid use.
4. Bravery: M
Basically, an extension of personality, but with Mario the first to be selected for any fight and tackling them head on.
Pro concedes this point, before trying to link it back to the first contention of intelligence.
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Arguments:
See above review of key points.
The big one is I don’t trust where L’s money comes from. I would have liked the debate to dive into that, rather than just saying he has it so he’s better. As is, that leaves the quality of having it less desirable than M who seems to leech off his girlfriend, but at least we know where it comes from (some challenge could have been offered of harm to the working class, but it was not).
I don't entirely agree that Luigi is truly worse than Mario, however I do think it's wrong to call him smarter. Something that I thought as a child about the brothers is that Luigi is the book smart one while Mario is the street smart and neither is genuinely higher in IQ to the other by a significant degree.
I wrote a couple ethics papers on Mario, so this debate should be fun to read.
Pls vote if you have time.
You lied by the way. Daisy has been helpless at times and Mario helped Luigi to rescue her. I chose to let you run with your false narrative about only Peach being helpless and turned it against you. This is true strategic prowess.
Sources for Round 2:
[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Kart
[2]https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/mario-and-sonic-at-the-olympic-games-tokyo-2020-switch/
[3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bros.
[4]https://www.quora.com/Which-is-better-bravery-or-intelligence
[5]https://www.mariowiki.com/Poltergust_3000
[6]https://www.mariowiki.com/List_of_power-ups
Thank you.
I should have made it 10000 characters...
You have. Just paste what you had on the same debate before and edit it.
"Understood"
Stupid autocorrection
oohh I finally understanding one thing I was doing wrong.
I should have prepared the first round at least, before instigating/accepting any debate.
Looks like RM is here.
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