Holidays are commercialized religions with greater push.
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Holidays are pushed with merchandise via retailers, media outlets and of course more imposed on folks like proselytization.
Absolutely greater than religion as there is the push of holiday decorations. It's truly the dollar bill that makes it that way and it's all around us. I mean all around us by season.
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- An actual deity(No, money is not a deity, and holidays have no deities of its own)
- Believers(Even if people crave holidays, they don’t treat holidays as a belief/religion)
- A belief(What even?)
- Materials and scriptures, etc(No. At most indirect.)
Let me ask, how do folks "practice" the Christmas "holiday" celebration?Is it with ceremonies based on "belief" systems?I don't "Believe" in celebrating Christmas and you do . I don't "believe" in Santa Claus, but people do, are these not beliefs?Religion is a belief system. To celebrate a holiday, you have to "believe" in doing so.
So does a holiday not exist if I'm unemployed, never work or my company gives no exemption?
Yes these religions don't always believe in a deity , supernatural entity of any kind. Like I can be a Buddhist or Hindu and my only belief about the afterlife is reincarnation. One thing you ought to know about religion is that it's "democratic" meaning up to each and every individual how they define, practice their religion.Again, the Laveyan Satanists are those of a legitimate religion. But are pure atheists. Religions are belief systems. Those beliefs can be anything regarding tenets to live by. It's like a way of life such as holiday celebration, festivities and sport watching.
So as long as people organize a set of beliefs in regards to a holiday celebration, that holiday is their religion. The world of commerce facilitates this organization of beliefs. When the season arrives, almost everywhere, including the workplace pushes the festivities in celebration of the holiday. This is imposed as if I welcome this as a part of my lifestyle. Speaking from experience, this is entirely true.
- Holidays are merely segments of time and are merely vehicles for religious practices. If my car is carrying Red Bull Drinks that does not mean Red Bull Drinks power my car. No, it doesn't. It is what people do in the time period to make said holidays to be religious, but no holiday is fundamentally religious, let alone to be their own belief systems.
- Only what people do determines whether religious practices will be done on this day or not. If I tell them Christmas celebration is prohibited on Dec. 25, then they will probably still find happiness celebrating in Dec. 24. Days are just markers to tell them when to celebrate an annual celebration. In fact, if a year is only 7 months, they can probably still do so every 7 months. It is what people do determines whether a holiday is religious or not, not the day itself.
- Since Days are not fundamentally religious, they cannot be individual religions. Religions are 100% religious and there is yet an explanation that 100% of holidays are religious. Many holidays overall have no religious affiliations.
Doesn't matter the foundation of a holiday. All you have to keep in mind is the belief system in place. Simply put, holiday celebration is for what some people believe in practicing. I can believe in practicing something one day a year or every day.
Wait, are you saying people don't believe in the Baptism?
What does this mean? That holidays are a part or fragment of a belief, is that so?Well there you go. Being part or included in a religion is still religious content. It's just in this case, it's heavily commercialized. For every merchant sale or bargain is advantageously placed for the consumer as it is conducive for their holiday practice.
- I shall make conclusions
- Pro has conceded that holidays are a part of religion
- However, only complete individual belief systems that believe in sacred beings/forces can count as an actual religion
- Holidays are not complete individual belief systems, they are just vehicles for religious practices/celebrations
- Thus, holidays are actually not religions.
- Con's position is that holidays are not commercialized religions with greater push.
- Con takes this position due to that it is not possible to prove holidays are religions within regular viable logic.
- Holidays are days off work. My opponent agrees.
- Religions are complete, organized belief systems that believe in supernatural powers/forces. My opponent likely agrees on that as well. Either way, if it is not a complete, organized belief system, it isn't a religion.
- Holidays are not complete, organized belief systems. That is basic common knowledge and common sense.
- It is not the units of time in holidays that dictate whether this holiday is religious or not. It is what people do on the date that determines if it is religious or not. The state of religion has nothing to do with the holidays themselves.
- Holidays are vehicles for religious behavior. Holidays make up the foundation of religion. Although holidays are related to religion, they aren't themselves.
- I have proven that holidays are not religions.
- Pro has not proven that holidays push for the great, so if I said nothing and Pro said those before, he still fails to meet his BoP.
- Vote Con.