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Topic
#2995

Moral Dilemma: Kill One Tribe's Persons vs Kill Tribe Leaders

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After 4 votes and with 15 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
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Last updated date
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Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
5,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
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26
1687
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Description

I recently had a dream where I struggled over a moral dilemma.

You could kill an entire tribe's persons, except the leader, or you could kill the two leaders of two tribes. It's suggested that there will be unpredictable chaos and problems when the leaders die, because they are the only ones capable of leading the tribes well.

In the dream, I argued that both choices are equal (because killing the people means I am treating them as a means to an end, and saying some people are worth more than other people), but here I'm making a stand that you should kill an entire tribe's persons, rather than killing the two leaders.

Burden of proof is shared.

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@RationalMadman

You're welcome

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@fauxlaw
@Intelligence_06

Thank you for the votes.

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@Intelligence_06

he conceded, btw.

Having just committed to reading the arguments and voting, I then read the Description, but no arguments, yet. Just by the description, I'm already concerned that a serious issue is enjoined with just two options and both concern doing some killing, allegedly to solve a problem; a problem that is not even defined, to wit, why do either the tribes' people or the tribal leaders need to be killed? I'm hoping that will come out in arguments.

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@RationalMadman
@gugigor

There's plenty of time left, thank goodness. I commit to reading and voting.

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@fauxlaw

This debate was conceded and may interest you to read.

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@MisterChris

This is Rated and conceded, I would highly appreciate a vote if possible.

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@gugigor

Does the tribe's leader get counted in the tribe's people? A president is a citizen after all. I'd rather kill Joe Biden then 330 million Americans. I'm sure the tribe's leader has a 2nd in command that can fill the role.

Should?

More moral, or more effective? Is your goal to harm as little as possible or as much as possible?

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@gugigor

Well that makes it not really a moral dilemma then if "magically make everyone get along" is an option

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@Sum1hugme

dream world logic

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@gugigor

Could you elaborate a little more? Like why are these the only two options?

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@gugigor

Itachi, Danzō and the third Hokage agreed with you, that's for sure.

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@Theweakeredge

Interested?