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THBT Palestine Should be Considered a State

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Politics
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Con: Palestine should NOT be considered a state
Pro: Palestine should be considered a state

Burden of proof is shared

State: "A state is a polity under a system of governance with a monopoly on force. There is no undisputed definition of a state.[1][2] A widely used definition from the German sociologist Max Weber is that a "state" is a polity that maintains a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence, although other definitions are not uncommon.[3][4] A state is not synonymous with a government as stateless governments like the Iroquois Confederacy exist.[5]" -- Wikipedia

We will debate over which term of State is acceptable, and whether Palestine fits that definition.

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--> @Benjamin

At least define what a state is. I mean, a US state is still a politically-defined piece of land.

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Contender
--> @Undefeatable

It's OK, I won't be making good arguments either

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I want both Israel and Palestine to join NATO. Then they would stop fighting each other.

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Instigator
--> @Benjamin

I’ve been really busy these days. Can we tie and/or delete this debate? I’m not sure I’m able to produce good arguments

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Contender
--> @Undefeatable

Sorry for the semantical approach i took. You asked for it though, and I can't continue losing to you for all eternity.

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I'm having flashbacks of my "military is the most important agency" debate.

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Contender
--> @Undefeatable

Its ok

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Instigator
--> @Benjamin

sorry, I got too busy

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--> @Undefeatable

Undefeatable

I know this is taken, but to clarif, I am Con also.

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--> @Undefeatable

Yeah, this should be a good debate. However, I totally disagree with both definitions of 'state,' and not only because of my well-known disgust with Wiki. While you do acknowledge that no definition is undisputed, I do not see a state as necessarily an enforcer, nor as a nebulous sovereignty of land, either.

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--> @Undefeatable

"We will debate over which term of State is acceptable, and whether Palestine fits that definition."

Maybe a better resolution would be "Palestine is a state".

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Instigator
--> @fauxlaw @Intelligence_06 @Benjamin

You guys seem pretty good at semantic debates. There's a bit of policy involved here, but that's probably only half the fight.