Instigator / Con
4
1644
rating
64
debates
65.63%
won
Topic
#3092

THBT Palestine Should be Considered a State

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
6
Better sources
2
4
Better legibility
2
1
Better conduct
0
2

After 2 votes and with 9 points ahead, the winner is...

Benjamin
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
Two weeks
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Pro
13
1777
rating
79
debates
76.58%
won
Description

Con: Palestine should NOT be considered a state
Pro: Palestine should be considered a state

Burden of proof is shared

State: "A state is a polity under a system of governance with a monopoly on force. There is no undisputed definition of a state.[1][2] A widely used definition from the German sociologist Max Weber is that a "state" is a polity that maintains a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence, although other definitions are not uncommon.[3][4] A state is not synonymous with a government as stateless governments like the Iroquois Confederacy exist.[5]" -- Wikipedia

We will debate over which term of State is acceptable, and whether Palestine fits that definition.

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@Benjamin

At least define what a state is. I mean, a US state is still a politically-defined piece of land.

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@Undefeatable

It's OK, I won't be making good arguments either

I want both Israel and Palestine to join NATO. Then they would stop fighting each other.

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@Benjamin

I’ve been really busy these days. Can we tie and/or delete this debate? I’m not sure I’m able to produce good arguments

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@Undefeatable

Sorry for the semantical approach i took. You asked for it though, and I can't continue losing to you for all eternity.

I'm having flashbacks of my "military is the most important agency" debate.

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@Undefeatable

Its ok

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@Benjamin

sorry, I got too busy

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@Undefeatable

Undefeatable

I know this is taken, but to clarif, I am Con also.

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@Undefeatable

Yeah, this should be a good debate. However, I totally disagree with both definitions of 'state,' and not only because of my well-known disgust with Wiki. While you do acknowledge that no definition is undisputed, I do not see a state as necessarily an enforcer, nor as a nebulous sovereignty of land, either.

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@Undefeatable

"We will debate over which term of State is acceptable, and whether Palestine fits that definition."

Maybe a better resolution would be "Palestine is a state".

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@fauxlaw
@Intelligence_06
@Benjamin

You guys seem pretty good at semantic debates. There's a bit of policy involved here, but that's probably only half the fight.