Instigator / Pro
23
1517
rating
1
debates
100.0%
won
Topic
#3110

Resolved: Frankincense should be Standardized and endorsed as a Medicine by Doctors and pharmacies

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
9
3
Better sources
8
6
Better legibility
4
4
Better conduct
2
4

After 4 votes and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...

OrwelliusofCicero
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
17
1498
rating
5
debates
50.0%
won
Description

DEFINITIONS:
Frankincense-" a fragrant gum resin from trees of a genus (Boswellia of the family Burseraceae) of Somalia and southern coastal Arabia that is an important incense resin and has been used in religious rites, perfumery, and embalming"- Merriam webster dictionary definition.
Medicinal-"A substance, be it a plant, or any other kind, that has been proven to have healing properties (has actual medicinal use)".

STRUCTURE:
R1- PRO Constructive & CON Constructive (Constructive as in setting the foundation to which the debates later rounds shall be made on, which is to say, mostly just opening arguments and main sources not really a response to either argument).
R2-3- Fluid attack/defense. No set structure here. (Just don't forget about your past statements).

RULESET:
1. No new arguments made in the final round
2. No trolling
3. You must follow the debate structure
4. No plagiarism
5. Must follow debate definitions.

RULESET PENALTY:
If the ruleset is broken, the penalty will be the loss of a conduct point. By accepting the debate, the contender accepts the RULESET and the RULESET PENALTY.

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@OrwelliusofCicero

You forfeited twice as much.

I'm seriously surprised my vote hasn't been outweighed by a bunch of others yet. If it gets to within a few days like this, remind me and I'll reevaluate.

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@Barney

Brooo, why you do this to me, he forfeited lmao. :(, now I'm probably going to lose lol. It's ok though, I just can't believe you went to the dark side :(((((((((((((. (Totally extremely sad and betrayed right now m8t).

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@Intelligence_06

I think I should win, he forfeited, so I saw no reason, and still see no reason as to why I should continue this debate after my opponent forfeited. Instead I'm working on other projects, and pet peeves of mine. Sorry if that's a bad answer, my apologies nonetheless.

Concession vs FF. Which one wins?

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@TheUnderdog
@OrwelliusofCicero

wake up

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@DeadFire27

Yeah I agree, my formatting wasn't very good in this debate, but that's mostly because I was busy, and wasn't taking this debate seriously.

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@OrwelliusofCicero

The #1 spot on the leaderboard is occupied by oromagi. It would be quite a spectacle if your opponent conceded and you still lost, so I agree you won lmao. I look forward to reading your future debates or participating in them myself! I hope that I can prove to be a formidable opponent for you as well in due time.

When it comes to formatting, I am very ~overzealous~. In person debating hammers home road-mapping so much that I basically present a very simplified version of my argument at the beginning of my speech and then go further in-depth (this is non-standard, but very effective, I've found). This is to say that I am far from worlds greatest example, but I would definitely say that treating your writing more like a short story and less like a forum post (table of contents, paragraphing, formatting, etc...) would definitely improve your arguments if only in the ability of others and I to understand them.

The resolution itself, as I mentioned prior, seems nearly impossible to defeat. I can not think of any way for con to make affirmative arguments , only to make rebuttals, which at that point pro wins by default simply because they can present affirmative arguments to begin with (in my opinion and experience).

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@OrwelliusofCicero

I have to tell you. You're more formidable than I thought you were. However, try improving formatting. One huge paragraph doesn't look pleasing to the eyes.

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@Nyxified

Thanks! I think I won this one lmao. However I will say this though, this was really just a starter debate for me. The debates I really wanna have are going to be around much, much more controversial subjects, and I believe that they have the potential to be hall of gamers too. I would like to have them with people like undefeatable, Ragnar, mrchris,faux law, and Ramshutu. Also that guy who is number one on the leaderboard. (Sorry I forgot your name.) fruit inspector seems like an interesting opponent as well.

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@OrwelliusofCicero

Best of luck!

Not my best response, but I'm a bit busy right now. See you guys later for now.

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@Nyxified

Yeah sorry. I'm going to respond now. But still. TheUnderdog is being kind of funny lol.

After further looking into it, I've found evidence to suggest there isn't good reason to believe it should be standardized. I have not, however, found good reason to believe it shouldn't be standardized. I don't feel like con can have a good position in this debate for that reason.

I feel any arguments I make in this debate would be heavily centred around the lack of high quality, extensive studies regarding the use of frankincense and the possible side effects. I'll have to do some more research, especially with regards to what constitutes sufficient or insufficient evidence for the standardization of any medical treatment before I'm confident. I'll check back soon if this is still open.

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@OrwelliusofCicero

I agree but am tempted to take this debate thinking you won't respond and I can merely make a claim giving me the win.

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@OrwelliusofCicero

I don't know too much about Frankincense.

-->@Undefeatable

True, sorry about that, that's a very good point. I'll get rid of, or edit this one. Thanks, undefeatable.

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@OrwelliusofCicero

This looks like a truism. Would you like the harder, "Frankincense should be Standardized and endorsed as a Medicine by Doctors and pharmacies"?