Instigator / Pro
18
1462
rating
13
debates
38.46%
won
Topic

It is a fact that 6mil people died in the holocaust

Status
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All stages have been completed. The voting points distribution and the result are presented below.

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0
18
Sources points
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12
Spelling and grammar points
5
6
Conduct points
5
4

With 6 votes and 22 points ahead, the winner is ...

Bones
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Contender / Con
40
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~ 80 / 5,000

Format: Round 1 we will both make our arguments
Round 2 3 and 4 will be rebutals

Round 1
Pro
First of all i would like to say something the estimate that historians agree on is 5.4 to 6 million deaths. do not try and say that my debate title said 6mil and didnt specify. anyways, when the nazis were about to lose the war they tried covering up as much evidence as they could-----https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/combating-holocaust-denial-evidence-of-the-holocaust-presented-at-nuremberg,  https://www.history.com/news/how-the-nazis-tried-to-cover-up-their-crimes-at-auschwitz
here is a good article on how historians and researchers estimate how many people died in the holocaust. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/documenting-numbers-of-victims-of-the-holocaust-and-nazi-persecution

Con

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Introductory 

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CONTENTION 1: Argument from a Kritik 

As observable from my cited definitions, the term mil refers thousand. This is a contradiction to sources which clearly state that the Nazis systematically murdered an estimated six million Jews and an additional 11 million people during the war (another source, and another). Consider the following syllogism. 

p1. Sources state that at least 17  million people died from the Holocaust. 
p2. 17 million is not 6 thousand. 
c1. Resolution negated. 

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CONTENTION 2: Fact and certainty

My opposition asserts that it is a fact that 6 million people died in the holocaust. Not  5,999,999, or 5,999,998, but 6 million on the dot. Therefore there burden is not to prove that approximately 6 million people died in the holocaust, but that it is a fact that 6 million people died. This is a near impossible assertion to uphold. 





Round 2
Pro
I 100% agree with you that 17 million people died in the holocaust what i meant was 6 million jews died in the holocaust as i stated in the comments. its bad formatting on my part. so we can either agree on a tie or u can just win
Con
Thx doc

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I entered this debate anticipating a conversation about whether "it is a fact that 6mil people died in the holocaust", with myself believing that it is incorrect. As I have negated the resolution, Con has won this debate. 

u can just win
Vote Con
Round 3
Pro
well i screwed up big time ggs
Con
Dubs 
Round 4
Pro
dubs
My opponent states dubs; definition of dubs---give an unofficial name or nickname to (someone or something).
My opponent however did not specify what he dubs or dubbed therefore my opponents entire argument is worthless as he did not "dub" anything. (this is a joke if you cant tell)
Con
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