Instigator / Con
28
1536
rating
18
debates
58.33%
won
Topic

Affirmative Action

Status
Finished

All stages have been completed. The voting points distribution and the result are presented below.

Arguments points
12
3
Sources points
8
6
Spelling and grammar points
4
3
Conduct points
4
0

With 4 votes and 16 points ahead, the winner is ...

nmvarco
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Politics
Time for argument
Three days
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Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
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Contender / Pro
12
1450
rating
10
debates
30.0%
won
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Setup

1st round: Definitions
2nd round: Opening Argumenta
3rd round: Rebuttals
4th round: Rebuttals; no new arguments

Round 1
Con
I would like to thank Cowscreen for accepting this debate. My definitions follow.

affirmative action - an active effort to improve the employment or educational opportunities of members of minority groups and women 
minority - a part of a population differing from others in some characteristics 

Pro
reparations - the making of amends for a wrong one has done.

Round 2
Con
A# = Argument #

Opening Statements

I would again like thank Cowscreen for accepting this debate. I hope it will be productive and educational and not descend into a flame war like some other debates regarding race on this site have done. My arguments follow.

A1: The Unfairness of Affirmative Action

The idea of affirmative action violates what we as a nation are unified as. Affirmative action is an active effort to improve the employment or educational opportunities of members of minority groups and women. The second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence states that

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

These may be the most important words that shows what our country stands for. This statement still holds true today (Note: men in this context means everybody). To implement such a policy like affirmative action would be violating what America stands for as a whole.

The stem of affirmative action grows from the belief that injustices done to minority groups should be reversed and unleashed on the perpetrators of such actions. This creates a system where if you have a certain skin color or characteristic that fits under the list of injustices, and you are applying for, say, a marketing job, you are instantly granted priority over other people, even if those other people are better at said marketing.

We would be putting minority groups ahead of majorities for the so-called sake of equality and repairing injustices in our past. This is not created equal. Some may even interpret affirmative action as putting minority groups behind of majorities. This is simply unfair, for both the majority and minority.

A2: The Effects of Affirmative Action

Implementing affirmative action would have a negative effect on majority groups. It would mean less positions available to them due to quotas and make them feel like they are not accepted into society because of a non changeable fact about them, like their skin color.

It might also fuel more discrimination. If majorities are feeling that because of quotas people are taking their jobs and getting more options, they might start hating people of different skin colors, creating more and more racism. This makes affirmative action contradictory and we would work backwards under that system.

Implementing affirmative action would also make minorities feel that they are so weak that they can not get jobs by themselves without quotas. Do we want minorities to feel like they are nothing and can not do anything? Certainly not.




Pro
Forfeited
Round 3
Con
BoP on Pro. Extend.
Pro
Forfeited
Round 4
Con
Extend.
Pro
Forfeited
Round 5
Con
Extend. Vote for Con.
Pro
Forfeited