Instigator / Pro
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1598
rating
20
debates
65.0%
won
Topic
#3321

[February Tournament] THBT: Given the List of Chosen Marvel & DC Superheroes, the Majority of Them Were Drawn from Pagan Gods.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
0
5

After 5 votes and with 5 points ahead, the winner is...

ComputerNerd
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
15,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Winner selection
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
5
1518
rating
15
debates
40.0%
won
Description

Round One: Opening Arguments
Round Two: Rebuttals/Rejoinders
Round Three: Closing Arguments (No New Arguments.)

Stipulations:

Definitions:

Pagan (adj): of a polytheistic or non-Abrahamic (Christianity/Judaism/Islam) religion/mythology.

(a) God: a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.

Drawn (prep. from): based on; inspired by; gleaned; obtained from a particular source.

Majority: a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total.

*ComputerNerd and I have agreed to compile a list of Superheroes which together will create the entirety of Superheroes on which this debate is based.

Athias's List of Superheroes:

Marvel:
Ant-man, Black Widow, Captain America, Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers,) Hawkeye, Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Spider-man, Scarlet Witch, Thor, Quicksilver, Vision.

Detective Comics:
Aquaman, Batman, Cyborg, the Flash, Green Lantern, Hawk-man/woman, Martian Manhunter, Superman, Wonder Woman.

ComputerNerd's List of Superheroes:

Marvel:
Black Panther, Deadpool , Dr. Strange, Drax, Gamora, Groot, Rocket Racoon, Star Lord, The Wasp, Winter Soldier, Wolverine.

Detective Comics:
Animal Man, Beast Boy, Deadshot, Doctor Fate, Doctor Manhattan, Raven, Robin, Shazam (Captain Marvel,) Starfire, Supergirl.

Burden of Proof:

The burden of proof is determined by the proposition, so it's Pro's onus to substantiate the affirmation of the proposition; it's the contender's onus to provide a counterargument refuting Pro's affirmation, or demonstrate that Pro has failed to meet his onus.

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@RationalMadman

No such criterion was spelled out.

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@ComputerNerd

I think the intention of the February tournament is to have quick debates between the selected contestants. This is evidenced by the fact that the tournament dictates that each debate be three rounds (excluding the acceptance round) with a three-day time limit to submit arguments and a one-week voting period--all so that the winner of this contest can be selected by the end of the month.

It isn't so much the time-limit or the one-week voting period that hampered my submission, but the character limit and the three rounds. I realized that not only did I not have enough characters to contain my entire argument, but also I probably would need more than one round to lay out my opening argument. Remember my burden would be not only to delineate the character archetypes of both the Marvel and DC Superheroes but also the character archetypes of the pagan deities on which they were based. And thus, I would have to explain who these characters were (both comic book and mythological,) how they related, and the plausibility that the Marvel/DC writers were thinking of the aforementioned pagan deities when conceiving their Superheroes. I was doing this successfully for just about 10 of the Superheroes we listed before I realized I was running out of characters (It was 14, 542 characters I believe.) And as time was waning, I realized I wouldn't be able to retool it without severely weakening the argument. Hence, my concession. I rather concede than submit a terrible argument.

If this perhaps was a five round debate, which wasn't confined by the time constraints of a month-long tournament, I'm certain we could've done the subject justice.

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@Athias

I accept your concession. I would like to do this debate again. I have a query though. Why don’t we just expand it for the February tournament, instead of for its own sake?

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@ComputerNerd

I apologize for conceding the debate before it even really started. I'm actually thinking about creating this debate again, using the same list, but with expanded parameters--namely the character limit. If you're still interested in the subject--not for the February tournament, but just for the hell of it--then I can challenge you again, or leave it open for challenge. I like the subject, and I've already done all of the work I intended to use to support my argument, so it'd cool if this could continue in some way or form.

Hey I can see the debate now!

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@Lunatic
@airmax1227

We finally started.