(Revival/Reboot) Minecraft Steve could most likely defeat the U.S military in a military campaign.
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- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 3
- Time for argument
- One week
- Max argument characters
- 10,000
- Voting period
- Two weeks
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
Rules:
1. No argument may be made eliminating the possibility that Steve exists.
2. No argument may be made disregarding the resolution.
3. No Kritiks.
4. A violation of rules 1-3 will result in a conduct loss.
5. No forfeiting.
6. Definitions are to be accepted. However, if necessary, you are permitted to include new definitions.
Context:
Minecraft Steve is the default player from the popular game "Minecraft." Due to his prowess and physical strength, Steve would defeat the U.S military easily. The battle ground is the U.S.A. Steve has spawned in Alaska and is making his way to the U.S to take it over. The U.S has 1 week to prepare. For the sake of fairness, Steve has full access to the creative MENU (Anything he wants from Minecraft he can obtain, but he's still killable)but cannot use anything involving commands or mods.
Definitions:
MInecraft Steve: Steve (mononymous) is the main protagonist to the popular sandbox game, Minecraft.
U.S: The U.S. is a country of 50 states covering a vast swath of North America, with Alaska in the northwest and Hawaii extending the nation’s presence into the Pacific Ocean.
Military: relating to or characteristic of soldiers or armed forces.
more likely: more likely than not
defeat: win a victory over (someone) in a battle or other contest; overcome or beat.
Roles:
PRO: Minecraft Steve could most likely defeat the U.S military in a military campaign.
CON: The U.S Military could most likely defeat Minecraft Steve in a military campaign.
Topic proposed by Crocodile on July 14 2020, accepted by Intelligence_06.
I agree with con that the US would win, but find his core reasoning of Nukes Nukes Nukes firmly defeated as a likely occurrence.
Lets see...
It seems clear that Steve can kill a tank in one punch, destroy or place 1 meter of material per second, and if well managed is nearly bulletproof. Additionally he can fly, teleport and summon monsters.
The US military has nearly limitless resources, but time and space are factors.
Minigun:
Con argues the rate of fire would overtake Steve's apple eating abilities, especially if hitting vulnerable points (a near certainty if hitting his general area 1000 times per seconds).
Pro counters that Steve can turn invisible. Con does slide in that invisibility does not prevent damage (this is more applicable to carpet bombings), but it rules out damage from firearms unless a way to aim for his approximate is determined.
Making Steve lay down:
Con states that Steve is a reverse turtle, but does not support it.
Atomic Bombs:
I like the point about radiation, but as pro points out, they are unlikely to be deployed.
Con's defense of this point moves the goalpost to can instead of most likely. He argues the US could nuke Alaska a bunch before Steve arrives... Without trying to show how any plausibility.
Pro of course does a good job explaining how Steve can survive withering effects (at least for long enough to win the campaign).
Con argues the USA would just continuously nuke Alaska in fear... Doubly so when combined with trying to mention the USA has allies, this is non-sequitur.
carpetbomb:
In reply to Steve's ability to teleport some distance, con brings up carpetbombing. Con did a disservice to his own case by burying this great point, and focusing on nukes instead of conventional bombs and missiles.
What counts as defeating the US Military?
Con argues that defeating the US military isn't defined, so Steve could not do it. Pro sets the goal of the White House and explains it would destabilize the military, thus count as defeating them in this campaign.
Thanks for a good debate!
Yeah probably not the best topic. I didn't really know what to do and I was bored.
As for your question I believe a realistic approach would be better.
I am not entirely sure what precisely matters more; if the claim is realistic or if it's severe.
This debate is consisting of unrealistic and severe threats/claims meeting realistic and tame threats/claims from both sides.
That many nukes on American soil, would defeat the US military (and most civilian populations in the northern hemisphere) without Steve ever manifesting.
Thanks for the vote! I agree CON focused on nukes a little too much.
A couple points:
Steve is most likely controlled by a non-optimum player.
With merely knowing Steve's approximate location, an area could be hit with one or more JDAMs before Steve has a chance to react https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1OqbwtIPy4
I am happy to vote on this, eventually.
Again?
I'm not entirely confident in other video game characters, so I'll propose a new resolution. That will probably make it fairer.
Previous debate on this topic:
https://www.debateart.com/debates/2168-minecraft-steve-can-beat-any-ufc-fighter-in-a-fight
This is too easy for pro. You should make it a video game character, bc of course a guy who can carry Eifel towers worth of gold could kill a human in a fight.