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1922
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Topic
#3563

The 2020 ELECTION was not STOLEN

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
12
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Better sources
8
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Better legibility
4
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Better conduct
4
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After 4 votes and with 28 points ahead, the winner is...

oromagi
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
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1497
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Description

The 2020 ELECTION was not STOLEN from DONALD TRUMP

DEFINITIONS:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election]
The 2020 ELECTION was "the 59th quadrennial presidential election, held on Tuesday, November 3, 2020. The Democratic ticket of former vice president Joe Biden and the junior U.S. senator from California Kamala Harris defeated the incumbent Republican president Donald Trump and incumbent vice president Mike Pence The election took place against the backdrop of the global COVID-19 pandemic and related recession. It was the first election since 1992, the first in the 21st century, and the fifth in the past 100 years, in which the incumbent president failed to win a second term. The election saw the highest voter turnout by percentage since 1900, with each of the two main tickets receiving more than 74 million votes, surpassing Barack Obama's record of 69.5 million votes from 2008. Biden received more than 81 million votes, the most votes ever cast for a candidate in a U.S. presidential election.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/stolen
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/steal
STOLEN [VERB] is the past participle of
STEAL [VERB] is "to take illegally; To get or effect surreptitiously or artfully"

BURDEN of PROOF

Wikipedia advises:
"When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim especially when it challenges a perceived status quo. This is also stated in Hitchens's razor, which declares that "what may be asserted without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence." Carl Sagan proposed a related criterion – "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" – which is known as the Sagan standard.

Burden of Proof is shared.

PRO will argue the consensus of the local, state, and Federal governments of the United States of America.
PRO will be obligated to demonstrate electoral fraud by Democrats on a scale sufficient to overturn the published result

PRO is requesting sincere and friendly engagement on this subject.
No trolls or kritiks, please.

- RULES --
1. Forfeit=auto loss
2. Sources may be merely linked in debate as long as citations are listed in comments
3. No new args in R3
4. For all relevant terms, individuals should use commonplace understandings that fit within the rational context of this resolution and debate

Round 1
Pro
#1
Thanks, Shaheerfromhaveli, , for accepting this debate.

The 2020 ELECTION was not STOLEN from DONALD TRUMP

I. POPULAR VOTE

  • The 2020 US Presidential Election enjoyed the highest voter participation in US history, with both candidates breaking Barack Obama's previous record of 69.5 million votes.
  • BIDEN/HARRIS garnered 81,268,924 votes .
    • That's a decisive 51.31% margin
      • 17 out of 59 previous Presidential elections were decided by a smaller margin of advantage in the popular vote.
        • That is, 2020  was not even in the top 20% of close Presidential races by popular vote.
II. ELECTORAL COLLEGE

  • BIDEN/HARRIS won by a even larger margin in the Electoral College, garnering 306 out of 538 state electoral votes,
    • That's a 56.8% margin.
    • 13 out of 59 previous Presidential elections were decided by a smaller advantage in electoral college votes.
      • That is, 2020 was not even in the top 20% of close Presidential races by electoral college vote.
    • Pursuant to the Electoral Count Act,   presidential electors met in the state capitol of each state and in the District of Columbia on December 14, 2020, and formalized Biden's victory
      • In six States that voted for Biden, some Republicans met on the same day to unlawfully appoint themselves "alternate electors."
        • None of these 6 outlaw slates received support from any State legislature
        • None of these 6 outlaw slates received a Governor's signature as required by law.
        • None of these 6 slates enjoyed any legal standing according to any State or Federal statute.
    • Pursuant to Title 3, section 15 of the US Code, The 117th United States Congress convened  in Joint Session on January 6, 2021, counted and officially certified the Electoral College's decision.
      • The certification of two States' results met with legal objections but both objections were overwhelmingly voted down
        • The certification was interrupted for 7 hours by an armed militia assembled by the sitting President for the purpose  of preventing the peaceful transfer of power by disruption or assassination.
III.  NEWS MEDIA

  • Political scientists and data scientists  working for news organizations project a winner in a Presidential race once there is a a high mathematical confidence that the uncounted vote in insufficient to alter the apparent result.
    • On Nov 6th, 2020, Decision Desk HQ projected Biden's win after determining that Biden's lead in Pennsylvania was insurmountable and with those 20 electoral votes, Biden's 273 votes made him the inevitable winner, whatever the remaining count.
    • ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, & the AP all called the election the next morning based on Biden's lead in Pennsylvania.

IV. TRUMP ADMINSITRATION

  •  The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) described  the 2020 election as"the most secure in American history there is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."
  • “To date, [DOJ invest­ig­at­ors] have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a differ­ent outcome in the elec­tion.” – Attor­ney General William Barr, Decem­ber 1, 2020,
V. INTERNATIONAL MONITORING

  •  The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe's (OSCE) Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) has monitored U.S. elections since 2002 , and dispatched  102 observers from 39 countries to observe the 2020 Election.  On Nov 4th the ODIHR issued the following statement:
    • "The 3 November general elections were competitive and well managed despite legal uncertainties and logistical challenges. In a highly polarized political environment, harsh campaign rhetoric fueled tensions. Measures intended to secure the elections during the pandemic triggered protracted litigation driven by partisan interests. The uncertainty caused by late legal challenges and evidence-deficient claims about election fraud created confusion and concern among election officials and voters. Voter registration and identification rules in some states are unduly restrictive for certain groups of citizens. The media, although sharply polarized, provided comprehensive coverage of the campaign and made efforts to provide accurate information on the organization of elections."
VI.  SUMMARY

  • Biden's victory is a well-established fact.
  • There's literally hundreds more authoritative sources validating the lawfulness and accuracy of the 2020 Election results but the object of interest to the question is the weak, even outrageous nature of the evidence brought those claiming fraud.
    • I look forward to CON's R1.
SOURCES



Con
#2
Forfeited
Round 2
Pro
#3
Thanks, Shaheerfromhaveli, , for forfeiting round 1!
 
The 2020 ELECTION was not STOLEN from DONALD TRUMP

I. RULE#1

  • I'll remind VOTERS that PRO set a rule in this debate's DESCRIPTION, making any forfeit the equivalent of automatic loss.
    • PRO asks VOTERS to consider CON's forfeit an automatic loss.
III.  SUMMARY

  • Please extend all ROUND 1 arguments.
  • Biden's victory is a well-established fact.
    • I look forward to CON's R2.

Con
#4
Forfeited
Round 3
Pro
#5
Thanks, Shaheerfromhaveli, , for going easy on me.
 
The 2020 ELECTION was not STOLEN from DONALD TRUMP

I. RULE#1

  • I'll remind VOTERS that PRO set a rule in this debate's DESCRIPTION, making any forfeit the equivalent of automatic loss.
    • PRO asks VOTERS to consider CON's forfeit an automatic loss.
III.  SUMMARY

  • Please extend all ROUND 1 arguments.
  • Biden's victory is a well-established fact
  • Thanks to all VOTERS for their kind consideration, and
  • Please VOTE PRO!


Con
#6
Forfeited