Instigator / Pro
35
1551
rating
26
debates
57.69%
won
Topic
#3572

The British Constitution is Better than the USA's Constitution.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
15
6
Better sources
10
6
Better legibility
5
4
Better conduct
5
4

After 5 votes and with 15 points ahead, the winner is...

PoliceSheep
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
20
1468
rating
3
debates
0.0%
won
Description

A debate as to whether the UK's uncodified constitution is better than that of the United States of America's codified one.

The countries are those recognised as permanent member states of the United Nations Security Council.

'Better' is subjective and the point of the debate. The specific merits or demerits of the specific systems are for participants to debate.

The proposer is arguing that the British Constitution is better rebutting any arguments that the USA's is better. The opposing contender is arguing the USA Constitution is better and rebutting any arguments that the British is better. Shared BoP.

Word Count is high as not to cut people off mid-argument, not nearly required to go that high.
No kritiks.

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@PoliceSheep

Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization gave power back to Congress. You should have used Roe v. Wade as an example instead, otherwise you're undermining your own point.

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@BDPTheGreat

Hey, apologies, I've been in hospital, but am back now. Could I suggest, with your agreement, that we get an Admin to delete this debate and we start again, copying the arguments we've already made into a new duplicate debate?

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@PoliceSheep

Feel free to send a Google doc like you let me do, I'll wait the 7 days before posting anything

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@BDPTheGreat

I did chuckle at "I never thought I would see someone criticize Obergefell and Dobbs in the same breath." - It's why I used the examples of different perspectives showing that my point wasn't about the outcome but was about process and procedure - it was intentional that they were opposing perpectives! :)

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@PoliceSheep

Thanks for the offer, here's a link to the google doc

Formatting isn't as good as it would have been on debate art but I went through and tried to make it more readable

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19I_aEifMFOsGSF0HMKI1bl86TXhfv30pwXajqoPUWBo/edit?usp=sharing

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@BDPTheGreat

Do you want to put it into a Google Docs and put the link in the comments? I'll add the link to the top of my response and respond

MY WIFI CUT OUT BEFORE I COULD PUBLISH MY ARGUMENT RIPPP

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@BDPTheGreat

Its a debate between the United States and United Kingdom constitutions. You could if you wanted completely ignore the codified/uncodified distinction but I will certainly bring it up as one of my core arguments :)

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@PoliceSheep

Is the debate meant to be about whether it's better to have a codified or and uncodified constitution, or are we meant to evaluate Britian's and the UK's constitutions holistically? Excited for the debate either way, just curious to help tailor my research.

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@fivesix

Referring to the fact there isn't a single source of the constitution, like there is in the US. The British constitution exists through Acts of Parliament, legal precedents, conventions and sources of authority etc. instead.

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@PoliceSheep

Interesting debate topic -- are you able to clarify what is meant by 'uncodified' for the British constitution so we can be clear?

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@Novice_II

So done Novice

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@PoliceSheep

I want a one week voting period, and I shall accept

This looks interesting