Instigator / Pro
4
1309
rating
270
debates
40.74%
won
Topic
#3667

North Korea is the best country on Earth

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
3
Better sources
2
2
Better legibility
1
1
Better conduct
1
1

After 1 vote and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
2
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
7
1709
rating
565
debates
68.23%
won
Description

In this debate I will argue that Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea, widely known as North Korea, is the best country on Earth.

Some might think that this is a difficult position to defend. To me, it will be easy. Even if I dont win the debate, I will still consider that I am right and that I should have won.

As for the definitions, to each their own. I am not going to define what other people should consider as the best.

Since I have the disadvantage of not having the last word, I will take as my right to also debate in the comment section if I see that it is necessary.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Before con can even respond in R1, there are two immediate problems:
1. Gish Galloped quotations from the supreme leader. A nation having one cool dude, does not imply much of anything. Everyone here probably knows at least a few cool dudes in whatever country they reside.
2. "Do I even need to mention what happens in the poorest?" Neat factoid, but it's wondering far off topic. It's further inviting comparisons of NK to better oppressive regimes.

Understanding the values of the average debater, makes this statement problematic: "Even children who have no parents and no one to take care of them, in North Korea they are cared for by the state. They get free house, job, healthcare, education all provided by the Socialist state." It was otherwise the first paragraph that shined as having anything good to say about NK (which should be the center point).

Ok, WTF is a 3D model doing in the Youtube videos which is supposed to be showing free housing? What is that a city for ants?! How can the people live there, if they cannot fit inside the buildings? It will need to be at least three times as big!

Jokes aside, pro eventually shows some positives about NK. Which even if dubious, do attain minimal BoP; leaving the debate in con's hands to challenge.

...

Con hits hard starting with good evidence against the economy, education (except for those awesome reeducation camps... countries without those are a bunch of simps!). ,

FYI: con your source washingtonpost.com/ is literally just that. I doubt it will be caught in the debate, but it's something to take care with for future debates.

Con praised NK for their action hero firing ICBMs on national television, making it rise to the amazing level of being a "clown fiesta."

Pro complains that NK has to grow food rather than just defend itself against a tougher country... What consistent standard is NK supposed to be better by, if it's getting bullied by the USA? ... Getting into a video praising cool guy in charge, again doesn't suggest NK is better (I doubt con will bother to show a Beyoncé video to prove NK doesn't even win by that standard of best music videos, but at a certain point such common knowledge that other counties have music too can be taken for granted). Pro gets into more music videos...

Con replies with paraphrasing M.C. Hammer, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo