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Topic
#4042

Its fair for palestinians to want the whole of Israel back

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
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3
Better sources
2
2
Better legibility
1
1
Better conduct
1
1

After 1 vote and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

AustinL0926
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
2
Time for argument
Twelve hours
Max argument characters
500
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
7
1636
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Description

Imagine if someone took half of your house, why would you be ok with that, how would yo be ok with that, ofcourse you would try to take back the rest of your house. So why should we expect the Palestinians to be ok with that? It's the exact same logic.

Some people would say that It's not only the Palestinians house, that Jews have lived there for thousands of years, but those jews were a small minority, like any other minority. They lived in relative peace with the Palestinians, when you look at the demographics today they are not a minority, those Jews are mostly people that adhere to Judaism, that have no connection to the land, but was able to arrive through the discriminatory law thats called "the law of return" or they're jews whose ancestors lived there 3000 years ago. But just because your ancestors lived there 3000 years ago doesn't mean you have a right to live there and displace the locals, in that case the greeks should displace the turks and have a right to live in Anatolia, just because their ancestors lived there a thousand years ago.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)

I also want to pint out that jewish migration really started in the (1890)

Round 1
Pro
#1
I'm new to the website, I thought my first argument was supposed to be written in description, so my argument is in the description
Con
#2
1. Rather poor conduct for PRO to set a low character limit, then bypass this by using the description for his first argument.

2. Definition of fair (M-W): "impartial and just, without favoritism or discrimination."

First, clearly this shows favoritism to Palestinians and discrimination against Israelis.

Second, if Palestinians got Israel back, then it would result in enormous problems already living there. Unlike the two-state solution, this is clearly unfair, and BoP is on PRO to prove otherwise.
Round 2
Pro
#3
1. I'm sorry i thought they meant word not characters,  I'll gladly make a new debate with higher limit

2. how do I show favoritism? I explain why i think it's fair for Palestinians to retake their land and that it's unjust to give Israelis who has never lived there a right to the land and displace those who lived there

3.  Like what problems? that some Israelis that displaced Palestinians have to return? Thats only fair
Con
#4
1. PRO conceded.

2/3. The unfairness caused by a complete annexation of Israel would outweigh the fairness of correcting historical wrongs.

56% of Palestinians support armed attacks inside Israel (many against civilians) [1]. In addition, 93% hold Anti-Semitic attitudes, such "Jews think they are better than other people." [2]

In a one-state solution where Palestine has total control of the government,  violence against Israelis would only worsen.