Instigator / Pro
18
1587
rating
182
debates
55.77%
won
Topic
#4267

Rap Battle: Big L vs Eminem

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
6
Better sources
6
6
Better legibility
3
2
Better conduct
3
3

After 3 votes and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

Sir.Lancelot
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Rated
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
10,500
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Minimal rating
1,505
Contender / Con
17
1709
rating
565
debates
68.23%
won
Description

Pro assumes the role of Big L and Con assumes the role of Eminem.

This is Big L during the year that he passed versus current Eminem. (Nothing about either of these two is off-limits.)

Rules:
1. Both sides are expected to try and mimic the rapping style of their rapper they are acting as. Plagiarizing their lyrics or choosing a style of lines they may use is allowed. However, this rule is an expectation. Not a requirement. Either side can rap differently if they prefer.
2. Voters decide who they think won, but they must quote their favorite lines from both sides and explain why one side did better than the other.
3. Pro is emulating Big L and dissing Eminem. Con is emulating Eminem and is dissing Big L.
4. This is not a diss between the users that are Pro and Con, this is a lyrical feud between the characters they're portraying.

Definitions:
Battle Rap- Type of rapping performed between two or more performers that incorporates boasts, insults and wordplay.

“Enjoy your big L”

That comment didn’t age well.

Should I bother on voting since RationalMadMan has left?

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@Sir.Lancelot

I think that your rap battle ideas are fun. If you ever do a rap battle where Notorious BIG is involved, and I can assume his persona, please let me know. I'll happily accept.

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@Athias

Thank you!

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@RationalMadman
@Sir.Lancelot

Hopefully the both of you will find my reasons satisfactory.

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@Bella3sp

If you have google docs, you can pull it up in another tab and take notes for each round.

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@RationalMadman
@Sir.Lancelot
@DavidAZ

RationalMadMan & Sir.Lancelot,
Alright, cool. I finished reading this rap battle, or diss. I have my ideas. I think i'll be voting. I practically have my vote made in my head, it just needs to be typed and formatted correctly.

My vote should be published at least by the end of the week.

DavidAZ,
I see.. thanks.

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@Bella3sp

I figured how it flowed with rhymes.

My rhyme and flow was also true to Big L’s style.

@RationalMadMan

The grading quality of this rap battle is based on who the voters feel won.

It’s up to them how they decide to judge.
Some measure quality based on internal flow and rhyme, and some leave that out entirely.

Some choose to grade based only on the quality of the disses which is how a lot of rap veterans decided to grade.

If they feel I rhymed and flowed better than you. Then they are allowed to vote for me and vice-versa.

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@DavidAZ

How did you choose the points for legibility? It was never explained and i'm curious or would this be counted with the flow?
If I vote, my vote would include many different factors but I am asking in curiosity which may or may not affect my vote. It most likely won't due to my opinion being quite different from others.

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@Sir.Lancelot

This was not close. Wtf. 30% of your raps did not properly rhyme or flow like at all..

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@WeaverofFate

How did you decide how many points to give the winner in your vote?

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@DavidAZ

Thanks for the vote!

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@RationalMadman

I plan on it.

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@Bella3sp

Also, you should give all 7 points to the one you think won unless you think it was very close like Weaver did, at least that's my take. This should have been 'winner selection'.

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@RationalMadman
@Sir.Lancelot

RationalMadMan,
You do have a point.

Alrighty, i'll see what I can do. I have another debate to vote on with the_viper and Sir.Lancelot but i'll get to it when I can.

Sir.Lancelot,
Your good. It was a bad interpretation on my side. I can see your reason for specifically liking someones voting style, almost everyone does.

Everyone is welcome to place a vote.

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@Bella3sp

No, I worded that badly. My apologies.

I didn’t mean I didn’t want you to vote. I meant I chose Weaver because I like the video commentary.

Please vote if you want.

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@Bella3sp

That is unfair on me? I would like you to vote please.

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@Sir.Lancelot

I wasn't sure if I was gonna vote either way. However, would you like me to not vote? I can do that if wanted.

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@Bella3sp

I chose Weaver specifically to judge on this because I’m a fan of his voting style.

His and AleutianTexan’s. (RIP. He stopped coming online.)

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@WeaverofFate

Your vote tempts me to vote..

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@WeaverofFate

It is ashame you didnt rate flow and rhyme scheme, nor comeback disses or carryover metaphors.

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@WeaverofFate

in the end, he had an extra savage point because you corrected it wrong and you took me referring ti the burn of diarrhea as a gay line but I don't think all Eminem bars land correctly on a first listen/reading so that is true go Eminem's style. It did also refer to butthurt.

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@WeaverofFate

(2:30-2:36) Round 1
“All coked out, talkin smack
Like a drooling inbred skinhead”

(2:37-2:41) Round 1
“Spouting rhymes with jokes as weak as your hairline.”

I remember you reading these lines, but I didn’t get points for them.

Which category do they fall under in the video?

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@WeaverofFate

Thanks man. 😂

Those voices were killing me

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@DavidAZ

alright, that works

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@Sir.Lancelot

I don't have the credentials for voting yet, but I'll leave my vote in the comments.

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@DavidAZ

You may vote too if you want afterwards.

“being true to the represented artist's rap style and 'flow' of the internal rhyming.”

That’s an unrealistic expectation. WeaverofFate said he doesn’t listen to rap, so that would require him to listen to more songs before he got an idea.

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@WeaverofFate

please factor in turning one's insults against them, being true to the represented artist's rap style and 'flow' of the internal rhyming.

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@Sir.Lancelot

We'll replace argument strength with the severity of burns and lyrical style.

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@WeaverofFate

Is your methods for voting on Rap Battles the same as a regular debate?

fact not fake* round 3

I'll be subscribed to this debate.

Never heard that one before.

Enjoy your big L

Bump