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#4394

Islam Vs Anything1

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
3
9
Better sources
4
6
Better legibility
2
3
Better conduct
0
3

After 3 votes and with 12 points ahead, the winner is...

Slainte
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Time for argument
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Description

Islam Vs Anything
Anyone can be my opponent who is from any religion or atheist nothing else, like some random person who just oppose Islam.
Rules:
1 Evidence from anywhere but must be credible.
2 Use philosophy, science or meta physics as far it's logical and make sense.
3 No insult to Islam, and our beliefs.
4 No forfeit (if then automatic defeat)
5 Spelling and grammar should not affect result or voting and I should have relaxation for that as English is not my first language.
6 First round for deciding about what we are going to debate about as follows:
Your belief,
Topic
Resolution
Your stance
Etc
7 Burden of proof is shared.
8 Anyone can accept defeat in the middle of debate.
9 No trolling
10 No vote Bomb
Thanks, and looking forward for good debates (in sha Allah)

Brothers i could copy only this debate from DDO, just after that, they just shut down the website, very bad i could not copy others. this is the debate i did with KingDebater.
in 2012 i guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwyYCM8vEjQ

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@tigerlord

Sir. You keep inferring that I was crying, and I was not. You did not look at the merits of the words I spoke. You violated your own rule and were upset about that. I was nothing but polite, and gracious and in spite of that, you attack. If I prayed, I would pray for you.

"O you who have believed, fulfil [your] obligations." (Quran 5:1)
"And fulfil every commitment. Indeed, the commitment is ever [that about which one will be] questioned." (Quran 17:34)
"O you who have believed, why do you say what you do not do? Great is hatred in the sight of Allah that you say what you do not do." (Quran 61:2-3)
"And keep the covenant. Indeed, the covenant is ever [that about which one will be] questioned." (Quran 17:34)
"O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm in justice, witnesses for Allah, even if it be against yourselves or parents and relatives. Whether one is rich or poor, Allah is more worthy of both." (Quran 4:135)

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@Sir.Lancelot
@tigerlord

If you're looking for judges, rayhan16, Vici, and Yassine are probably the most active Muslim users.

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@tigerlord

To be fair, we’ve repeatedly had “Muslim” trolls. While I don’t think that is a fair representation of all Muslims, it does lower quality expectations here.

A refinement I suggest for future debates about Muslims is using concise comparative facts. That Muslims sleep and eat does not help them, because it is taken for granted that so does everyone else. However their education levels, life expectancy, etc.; those are great for comparing.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2011/01/27/future-of-the-global-muslim-population-main-factors/

It will still be very subjective, such as if their abilities at war are a positive or a negative.

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@tigerlord

What if I set it, so that I couldn’t vote-bomb?

We debate, with Judges’ decision. All the voters selected will be muslim.

can you imagine the biased statement of lencelot?
This is mind set here?
Muslim will lose any debate against atheist? Hahaha very funny.
this shows dishonesty. That means you guys won't let me win because you are dominant on this website?
And you can get away with it with your vote bombs?

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@Sir.Lancelot

Try me brother, challenge anything, also if vote to be cased like sevant did then it's sure we will lose. Otherwise, no chance.
How much slainte was crying in debate, he was so confused even for his stance and left debate in the mid.
Believe me, my first debate was more rough on DDO. And in last round debater himself said that this debate is tie and no one should vote for him and for me. But still people vote bomb against me. Its shame.
You can't win fair and square.

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@Slainte

Brother, i am an old debater, and I am not hyper at all. It's casual, nothing serious, but the RFD from sevant is not a good one. How you call him best debater and credible voter? He won 10 debates? Well, most of them are because of forfeit. Even he has won 10000 debates. But voting is something else. He put himself in your shoes when voted. I am just asking moderator to take actions, and he must improve his RFD. Be honest, we did not carry debate. It was dismissed, and you already know you can't win this debate based on arguments. Because there are not many from you. You left debate. i rebutted each of your statement in detail. His RFD shows, clearly, he did not read the debate. I have already break down his RFD any doubt in that analysis? This is not strange, for a Muslim he has to do separate debate for his arguments for his votes and the votes cast against him as well. i have faced this before.

Muslims would lose any debate about Islam vs Atheism.

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@Slainte
@tigerlord

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Tigerlord, it does not matter in your "sniveling boo hoo cry-baby" posts #79, 80, and 82 anymore because YOU ADMIT that you are going against your stinking camel humper Islamic religion in just being upon this DEBATEART forum in the first place, remember goat-herder Muslim? Huh?

YOUR QUOTE AGAIN GOING DIRECTLY AGAINST YOUR CAMEL HUMPER ALLAH GOD AND HIS INSPIRED ISLAMIC PRECEPTS: “Otherwise, it would be wastage of time, Quran has forbid us to debate or argue with ignorant.”

Key words to your QUOTE above: Quran has FORBID us to DEBATE or ARGUE with ignorant.

Therefore, since your toilet paper Quran FORBIDS you to DEBATE or ARGUE your stinking dung invested Islamic religion, and along with the following 4 "precepts" to substantiate this FACT, then you are no longer to be within this DEBATEART Religion forum anymore, get it Quran fool? Huh?

1. أَنَا زَعِيمٌ بِبَيْتٍ فِي رَبَضِ الْجَنَّةِ لِمَنْ تَرَكَ الْمِرَاءَ وَإِنْ كَانَ مُحِقًّا
"I guarantee a house on the outskirts of Paradise for one who abandons arguments even if he is right."
Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 4800, Grade: Sahih

2. الْمِرَاءُ فِي الْعِلْمِ يُقَسِّي الْقَلْبَ وَيُوَرِّثُ الضَّغائِنَ
"Arguing about sacred knowledge hardens the heart and produces resentment."
Source: al-Madkhal ilá al-Sunan al-Kubrá 178

3. الْمِرَاءُ فِي الْعِلْمِ يُقَسِّي الْقَلْبَ وَيُؤَثِّرُ الضَّغْنَ
"Arguing about sacred knowledge causes the heart to harden and breeds hatred."
Source: Jāmi’ al-‘Ulūm wal-Ḥikam 1/248

4. الْمِرَاءُ وَالْجِدَالُ فِي الْعِلْمِ يَذْهَبُ بِنُورِ الْعِلْمِ مِنْ قَلْبِ الرَّجُلِ
Disputation and arguments about sacred knowledge cause the light of knowledge to extinguish in a man’s heart."
Malik ibn Anas, may Allah have mercy on him.

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@tigerlord
@Savant

You have accused me, and one of the best debaters and judges on this site of not reading the entire debate. I encourage you to re-read my debate responses.

I never petitioned for votes. I presented an argument in a manner that you did not like. I did not insult your religion and was nothing but respectful. I am genuinely confused why you do not look at the merits of the words. Instead, you attack the person, being myself and Savant. I ask you to look into your soul and ask yourself if the anger and negativity you are bestowing on others are truly reflective of who you are as a person. I think you are a better person than that. You showed great compassion for Islam, and as I said, I respect that. Reading your RFD notes, it is clear that you wanted a different debate than was agreed on. I hope you get that debate in future.

Voter said:
“Pro gives a lengthy description of Islam, perhaps more than was necessary. “
Refutation:
Its not your part to decide how lengthy my argument should be totally irrelevant, which proves he did not read it.
Voter Said:
Pro wants me to assume that a philosophy with more rules is better, but he does little to argue for why that is true.
Refutation:
brother what are you doing?
This is not your duty to assume or debate with me. You are mere voter. You have to vote what is within debate.
I am speechless, literally speechless. Its childish.
Did I not say a system to be best or superior need to have complete set of code. And from definition of life I extracted the idea that, the more instruction from some system the more near to perfection it is. Resolution was which philosophy is superior for someone’s operating life.
We need to identify operations related to life so that we can analyze are those instructions for operations of life are good or not. Which con totally neglected and you also did not see that point I made in my 2nd argument. Kids grow up.
Voter Said:
“ Con gives a few benefits of Buddhism and argues that no philosophy is "the best," but there's not much in the way of a direct comparison to Islam”
Refutation:
voter found same things to be benefits of buddhism while not from me? Its strange and baised.
I gave alternative of what con gave from buddhism and argued the disadvantages of buddhism in that regard. Probably voter did not read that as well, such a shame.
I claimed Islam is best, while Con himself admitted that no philosophy is best. Its clear cut forfeit from the resolution. What are you doing brother here? Shame
Voter Said:
“ Pro mitigates this somewhat, arguing that Islam is better for meditation and managing one's life.”
Refutation:
brother you have some problem with me?
Am i mitigating? This is what you are saying for the good of me?
This is how your are appreciating me? Funny it is LOL.
Voter Said:
“But then Con comes back strong, arguing, "I find it very difficult to believe that a philosophical system that micromanages ones life is :the best".
Refutation:
I did not find that argument at all in debate. Where is it? And there is no reason to accept this.
Even that argument is made, there is no reason given why a system which micromanages ones life cant be best.
Here is Voter making his own assumptions. And trying to make me wrong with his own argument in RFD. Shame.
Voter said:
“ At the core, certain religions and philosophical positions are designed to be a type of indentured servitude, where the work in your is for the benefit of a deity or prophet, be-it God, Allah, Mohammad, Jesus, Mary, Shiva, Vishnu etc."
Refutation:
this where Con gave questions. Completely baiting his like minded people and voter got trapped in that trap. Such a shame. Did I not mention it in debate to not go on that route.
Con just gave question but not the argument why its bad. In rebuttal I said that every system has some strict to be followed to implement that system. Like police in any country. If that is good for the people there should be no argument about it to be bad, because it is not.
While this argument was never put by Con. It was just questions. And fear of hell and heaven was mentioned.
My debate was with slainte not sevant.
Why is he debating with me in vote section?
He said,
This seems like the best example of something that directly addresses the resolution, it flips most of what Pro said, and I don't see a response from Pro
read the debate one more time and then vote again brother please.
He said,
In the end, Pro's criticisms of Buddhism largely fall short after Con makes the point about indentured servitude since Con is arguing that people ought to take aspects from both Islam and Buddhism—it might not be the debate Pro was looking for, but it falls within the scope of the resolution.
There was no such argument.
I am telling he is trying to debate with me in vote section.
He never refuted any of my argument, he was just complaining about my behavior in comment section.
I already argued about that, in buddhism there is external influence.
There are books and practices there are tamples of buddah.
People give charity in the name of buddah. There was a guy who had idol of buddah in the form of amulet and was not letting us touch it.
Buddah is considered god by many as well.
And so on.
I am very disappointed from voter to vote bomb on this debate.
If he has given him points on forfeit it would be justified but saying he made better argument while there are no arguments at all then its shame.

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@Savant

Brother, let me break down your RFD

you guys giving tie for better source while his links did not work.
how biased. well i will see who will do this onward.
as i will never leave that chance for anyone to have.
his bait to invite atheist to vote bomb worked.
very nice, same vibe which i saw during DDO times.
and i got almost 60 votes. and all top voters voted me then. and all worst vote bombed against me and some vote bombed in my favor as well.

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@Savant

brother, you had to give a RFD for your vote, not debate with me. What you did in RDF is totally extensions and further more assumptions from the no arguments from con. i feel very bad about it.
you got to give points to what is already in debate not to add to make your RTF a debate itself.
i would consider it vote bomb. if you will not explain it to me here i would call jury about this.
vote based on forfeit should give conduct points. and did you not see swings by con. he himself was not satisfied with his Buddhism argument and wanted to change his strategy to tackle.
bro what are you doing. you took his bait. he did not give any reason why believing in deity and being atheist and not effected by external force is better.
i am sure you did not see the refutation about it. you probably left my part just like con did. i gave example that people do good because of fear of getting punished in any system.
like every country has police. and still there come troubles.
bro such a shame after seeing your vote. How biased and UN just that is.

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@tigerlord

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PaperTiger, "the baby talk Muslim" as shown herewith: "For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there." https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53453

We can see why you picked a stupid SIX MONTH VOTING PERIOD, and that was so everyone will forget about you LOSING this debate to Slainte as shown thus far! Nice move, Muslim LIAR!

Since you have to leave DEBATEART Religion Forum because you said the Quran doesn't allow you to dispute, argue, or debate anyone, of which you UNGODLY did in the first place, then set your timer for SIX MONTHS from now to check back to see how badly you lost this debate with Slainte!

Albeit, that you are even having some of your "Carpet Kisser" Muslim friends join this forum to be able to vote for you! LOL!

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NEXT GOAT-HERDER MUSLIM LIKE "TIGERLORD" THAT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON DEBATEART RELIGION FORUM BECAUSE HE SAYS THE QURAN AND MUSLIM PRECEPTS SAY MUSLIMS ARE NOT TO BE HERE TO DEBATE, WILL BE ...?

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@tigerlord

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PaperTiger, "the baby talk Muslim" as shown herewith: "For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there." https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53453

YOU ADMIT THAT YOU CANNOT DISPUTE, ARGUE, OR DEBATE HERE AT DEBATEART WHEN YOU SAID: "Quran has forbid us to debate or argue with ignorant.”
https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53713

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Then the following Muslim "PRECEPTS" agree with you that if you followed you Muslim faith, then again, you are NOT TO BE UPON THIS RELIGION FORUM as shown below:

1. أَنَا زَعِيمٌ بِبَيْتٍ فِي رَبَضِ الْجَنَّةِ لِمَنْ تَرَكَ الْمِرَاءَ وَإِنْ كَانَ مُحِقًّا
"I guarantee a house on the outskirts of Paradise for one who abandons arguments even if he is right."
Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 4800, Grade: Sahih

2. الْمِرَاءُ فِي الْعِلْمِ يُقَسِّي الْقَلْبَ وَيُوَرِّثُ الضَّغائِنَ
"Arguing about sacred knowledge hardens the heart and produces resentment."
Source: al-Madkhal ilá al-Sunan al-Kubrá 178

3. الْمِرَاءُ فِي الْعِلْمِ يُقَسِّي الْقَلْبَ وَيُؤَثِّرُ الضَّغْنَ
"Arguing about sacred knowledge causes the heart to harden and breeds hatred."
Source: Jāmi’ al-‘Ulūm wal-Ḥikam 1/248

4. الْمِرَاءُ وَالْجِدَالُ فِي الْعِلْمِ يَذْهَبُ بِنُورِ الْعِلْمِ مِنْ قَلْبِ الرَّجُلِ
Disputation and arguments about sacred knowledge cause the light of knowledge to extinguish in a man’s heart."
Malik ibn Anas, may Allah have mercy on him.

Therefore, YOU ADMIT that you have to LEAVE this DEBATEART Religion Forum! We thank you!

Bye, bye!

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@BrotherD.Thomas

How scared u r this time. Devil followers. Last time what u did is not going to happen this time. i will destroy you this time in sha Allah with the mercy of Allah.

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@tigerlord

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PaperTiger, "the baby talk Muslim" as shown herewith: "For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there." https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53453
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YOUR QUOTE WHERE YOU ARE STILL RUNNING AWAY FROM MY STATEMENTS TO YOU THAT SHOW HOW ABHORRED YOUR ISLAM FAITH TRULY IS: “Your messages are becoming smaller. Improvement.”

Thank you for reminding me that my messages should be BIGGER to include more DISGUSTING FACTS about your camel humping Islam, where you can run away from these FACTS as well! Do you want to go against your camel humping religion and talk about INFANT BABY SEX that is allowed by sweaty and stinky old Muslim Men as shown in the following link?
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016/posts/391549

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YOUR QUOTE GOING DIRECTLY AGAINST YOUR GOAT HUMPER ALLAH AND HIS INSPIRED ISLAMIC PRECEPTS!!!!: “Otherwise, it would be wastage of time, Quran has forbid us to debate or argue with ignorant.”

YOU are the ignorant one because you were in a debate with the winner to be announced Slainte, that easily won your debate that you were not even supposed to bring forth in the first place TO YOUR OWN ADMITTANCE SHOWN ABOVE, and as specifically shown in the following "precepts" of your faith!!! LOL!

1. أَنَا زَعِيمٌ بِبَيْتٍ فِي رَبَضِ الْجَنَّةِ لِمَنْ تَرَكَ الْمِرَاءَ وَإِنْ كَانَ مُحِقًّا
"I guarantee a house on the outskirts of Paradise for one who abandons arguments even if he is right."
Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 4800, Grade: Sahih

2. الْمِرَاءُ فِي الْعِلْمِ يُقَسِّي الْقَلْبَ وَيُوَرِّثُ الضَّغائِنَ
"Arguing about sacred knowledge hardens the heart and produces resentment."
Source: al-Madkhal ilá al-Sunan al-Kubrá 178

3. الْمِرَاءُ فِي الْعِلْمِ يُقَسِّي الْقَلْبَ وَيُؤَثِّرُ الضَّغْنَ
"Arguing about sacred knowledge causes the heart to harden and breeds hatred."
Source: Jāmi’ al-‘Ulūm wal-Ḥikam 1/248

4. الْمِرَاءُ وَالْجِدَالُ فِي الْعِلْمِ يَذْهَبُ بِنُورِ الْعِلْمِ مِنْ قَلْبِ الرَّجُلِ
Disputation and arguments about sacred knowledge cause the light of knowledge to extinguish in a man’s heart."
Malik ibn Anas, may Allah have mercy on him.

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Paper Tiger, since you are correct that you are not supposed to ARGUE, DISPUTE, OR DEBATE your camel humping Islam religion, then you blatantly went against your camel humper Allah and the Islamic precepts shown above!!!!!!!!! We thank you for showing this fact at your embarrassing expense!

Therefore, guess what? You are now to FORFEIT your entire debate to be true to Islamic precepts, and Slainte is the winner sooner than he thought he was going to be! LOL!

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Paper Tiger, you now have to leave DEBATEART Religion Forum because of YOUR OWN admittance that you are not supposed to be here in the first place as explicitly shown above when you went against Islam! In the meantime, here is a picture of you now having to run away from DEBATEART: https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEKNBP9

Paper tiger, it was fun in making you the outright Muslim fool where you had to run away from disgusting FACTS about your faith, so pet your camels for me, and buh--bye! LOL!

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@BrotherD.Thomas

Brother,
Your messages are becoming smaller. Improvement.
Would you become Muslim if I give good, convincing answers to your questions?
Otherwise, it would be wastage of time, Quran has forbid us to debate or argue with ignorant.
That is why I was not responding to you. But if there is hope for you, I can do efforts.

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@tigerlord

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tigerlord,

YOUR COMICAL AND REVEALING QUOTE: "LOL, in feel sorry for you :D Islam, the fastest growing religion of the world."

You don't have to feel sorry for me, but I have to be dreadfully sorry for you because you have to RUN AWAY from my Islamic disparaging facts all the time in this comment section alone! LOL! I can just see you "soiling your pants" when you read my FACTS about your sickening faith, where you can't answer them, but to only RUN AWAY from them as your camel humper Allah God watches you in disrespect for doing so! (Quran 4:1)

Are you still too SCARED to at least "try" and defend my DISGUSTING ISLAMIC FACTS in the "The beauties of Islam" thread where I am showing the membership in how Islamic STUPID you truly are? Huh? If you are that SCARED to soil your pants all the time because of my FACTS against your pathetic Islam religion, then just take your diaper off your head and use it in your private parts area, since you are a baby anyway as shown in your BABY TALK post herewith: https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53453

Seriously, is there another camel-rider Muslim that can defend their sickening faith of Islam, because AS EXPLICITLY SHOWN, Paper Tiger cannot do it because he has to RUN AWAY and hide from disparaging Islamic facts! Anyone? Please, this is to embarrassing for Paper Tiger, someone help him out, PLEASSSSSSSE!
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@BrotherD.Thomas

LOL, in feel sorry for you :D
Islam, the fastest growing religion of the world.

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@tigerlord

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Oh, oh, the “Carpet Kisser” tigerlord, aka, Paper Tiger, IS LOSING IT in this debate in round 4 as shown once again in getting so upset that he cannot defend his Islamic faith and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath! What did we expect from a goat-herder Muslim in the 21st century? LOL!!!

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PAPER TIGERS LITTLE “CRY BABY” QUOTE: “Well I am also a human being, when someone is being disrespectful to your prophet then it hurts us, and we become impulsive too.” https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394-islam-vs-anything1?argument_number=7

Being disrespectful to the camel humper PEDOPHILE Mohammad, especially in him marrying a SIX YEAR OLD GIRL named Aisha, is not disrespectful, but a RIGHT AND FACT to do so in how abhorred Islam truly is! Oh my, it “hurt poor baby Paper Tiger,” booo hooo, when one shows his Mohammad prophet to be a sickening pedophile and a dunce, where Paper Tiger infers that Slainte should apologize, NOT, EVER!

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PAPER TIGERS QUOTE OF BEING A HYPOCRITE: “Me being harsh with someone else in the comment section is none of the concern of debate. And it should not make you emotional at all.”

Conversely, then if Paper Tiger practiced what he preaches, then he should not be upset with my words OF DISCUSSION towards this foolish Muslim in the comment section in showing him to be the outright LIAR AND HYPOCRITE to Islam!

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PAPER TIGERS QUOTE SHOWING THAT HE IS VOID OF RATIONAL THOUGHT AGAIN IN RELATING TO “PRO”: “There are no arguments from you and there is no rebuttal from you”

“PRO” answers the readers AND the lousy debater Paper Tiger at the same time in his post #6, and just because “PRO” easily makes Paper Tiger the fool that he is relative to his sickening faith of Islam, does not mean that “PRO’S” way of debating does not hold recognition!

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How embarrassing can Paper Tiger get in his post #7 in the “Con said” and “Rebuttal” section! Where now since Paper Tiger knows that he is blatantly losing the debate, therefore he has to spin doctor that “PRO” is forfeiting the debate in other means! Whats the next lame and child-like EXCUSE that Paper Tiger will bring forth?

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PAPER TIGERS QUOTE: “Islam is very much natural religion,…”

Really? Is it “natural” to allow stinky and sweaty Muslim Men to FU*K prepubescent little girls that are not old enough to have babies, like Islam promotes, and that their PEDOPHILE Mohammad did with marrying his 6 YEAR OLD CHILD BRIDE AISHA?!

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The camel-rider Paper Tiger doesn’t realize it yet, but logic and rational thought are NOT on his side in this debate, simply because of what the disparaging faith of true Islam stands for in the first place in the 21st century, where Slainte's Buddhism if far superior to the thinking of "normal" human beings throughout the world!

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@tigerlord

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PaperTiger, "the baby talk Muslim" as shown herewith: "For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there." https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53453

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Answer the following questions, and if you don’t, then you are guilty of them by being SILENT to them! 2+2=4! Don't forget, the goat-humper Allah God is watching you if you RUN AWAY again in trying to defend his faith! (Quran 4:1)

1. Since you are married, GOD FORBID, tell us in how many times you had to BEAT YOUR WIFE as your Islamic faith says you are to do if your wife gets out of line to the filthy stinking laws of Islam? To SCARED to answer this simple question because you are to follow Islam rules to BEAT your wife as shown in these links:
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016/posts/388234
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016/posts/388

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2. Did you marry your wife when she was a prepubescent little girl before she could have children, where you were an outright PEDOPHILE in screwing her until she could have babies? To SCARED to answer this question because your sickening faith of Islam says you can marry “little prepubescent girls” as shown in these revealing and repulsive links:
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016/posts/388516
https://iranpoliticsclub.net/photos/muslim-child-brides/index.htm

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3. Do you have any daughters, and if so, when did you CUT THE CLITORIS off of them so you can follow your abominable Islamic faith as it says to do upon young girls! Too SCARED to answer this question, even though your nauseating faith says you are to do this appalling act against them as shown in the following links?!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016/posts/388599
https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEKW2UC

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4. To spread your evil faith of Islam, do you tell the non-muslim that you are trying to get to be a stinking Mulsim like you, that your leader sweaty camel assed Mohammad lived in a cave on Mount Hira, where he could not even read or right the “chicken scratches” of your written Islamic faith? Do you also tell them that your ungodly Mohammad MARRIED A SIX YEAR OLD “CHILD” GIRL NAMED AISHA as a PEDOPHILE, where he also liked to fondle LITTLE GIRLS, before his marriage? Don’t forget to tell them that your goat-herder Mohammad BEAT his little girl bride AISHA as well, as the following links support the above situations!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016/posts/388237
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016/posts/388408

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Take heed you repulsive Muslim fool, YOU LIED in your opening “cut and paste” remarks to your deplorable and comical faith of Islam when you DID NOT give the sickening and dreadful facts shown above! How does it feel to be an outright MUSLIM LIAR upon this Religion Forum?

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NEXT MUSLIM LIKE THE DIAPER-HEADED “TIGERLORD, AKA, PAPER TIGER,” THAT WANTS TO “TRY” AND DEFEND THE MOST ABHORRED FAITH OF ISLAM, WILL BE …?

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@tigerlord

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PaperTiger, "the baby talk Muslim" as shown herewith: "For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there." https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53453

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YOUR QUOTE RELATIVE TO YOUR SICKENING ISLAMIC FAITH THAT ALLOWS THE BEATING OF WIVES, ALLOWS MUSLIM MEN TO MARRY PREPUBESCENT KIDS AS PEDOPHILES, AND CUTTING OFF THE CLITORIS OF YOUNG WOMEN SO THEY CAN’T ENJOY SEX!!!!!: “Whatever you are asking, I have done debates about them and there are good answers for them too.”

BULLSH*T! In the 21st century there is absolutely NO WAY any argument could be made by any stupid camel-herder Muslim like YOU that would put the above situations in the right light, do you understand you simple-minded hell bound goat-humper Muslim?! How totally sickening can you get in front of the membership?

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YOUR RUN AWAY QUOTE IN FRONT OF YOUR GOAT-HUMPER GOD ALLAH!!!: “but the question is that, shall i answer you or not? the asnwer is not.”

Of course you cannot defend your abhorred Islam faith as it has been shown many times by me alone! You are the poorest example of a “Carpet Kisser” Muslim that has ever been to this esteemed Religion Forum! Look at you, YOU show how dreadful your Muslim faith is in your debate that should have been called off because YOU set the rules that YOU went against!

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YOUR RUN AWAY QUOTE ONCE AGAIN IN FRONT OF THE MEMBERSHIP: “i do not want to have debate with you because, i need a formal debate about these topics which you do not want to do.”

For the LAST TIME camel rider Muslim Paper Tiger, I DO NOT debate as you are “trying to do” in this Religion Forum, but only DISCUSS the topic at hand in the forum that you are to SCARED to enter because of your outright stupidity of ALL of the ramifications of your sickening camel humping and deplorable faith of Islam!

Now, I will continue to show your obnoxious faith of Islam in the following thread WITH OR WITHOUT YOU, but I will continue to bring your name up as the current hell bound stinking Muslim that is too SCARED to try and defend his faith in this thread: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016-the-beauties-of-islam?page=4

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YOUR QUOTE IN RUNNING AWAY FROM THE FACTS OF YOUR SMELLY OLD DISGUSTING RELIGION OF ISLAM: “if you do not want that then keep your mouth shut. and do not waste your time for typing that much for vain. Because i swear to Allah i do not bother to read them.”

Heads up “Ahab the Arab,” the LAST PERSON on earth is YOU as a “diaper-headed” Muslim fool that is going to tell me to shut my mouth against your abhorred faith of Islam! Understand this FACT from now on!

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YOUR CONTINUOUS QUOTES THAT SHOW YOU TO BE A REALLY STUPID MUSLIM: “but i choose being polite. as the mission is to show the true massage of islam and my personal attitude must not affect the message.”

How does your sickness of a faith in Islam give a “true MASSAGE,” where does it have a “happy ending” as well, you repulsive hell bound Muslim?! LOL!

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@BrotherD.Thomas

Whatever you are asking, I have done debates about them and there are good answers for them too.
but the question is that, shall i answer you or not?
the asnwer is not.
i do not want to have debate with you because, i need a formal debate about these topics which you do not want to do.
if you really want to debate with me on those topics then you must instigate a debate or let me do it and you can accept my challange.
if you do not want that then keep your mouth shut. and do not waste your time for typing that much for vain. Because i swear to Allah i do not bother to read them.
i gave you chance, as slainte complaint about my behavior, and i looked back at myself and found i was at fault. even though in toxicity i can beat anyone as well.
but i choose being polite. as the mission is to show the true massage of islam and my personal attitude must not affect the message.
i apologize to anyone with whom i was harsh, i will correct myself in sha Allah.
thomas if you remain on the website and not get tired i will reply all those question with debate in near future, there is no rush at all. as i am busy person have work family and person life.
so i will do everything at my pace.

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@tigerlord

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PaperTiger, "the baby talk Muslim" as shown herewith: "For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there." https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53453

In your comical opening statement to your FORFEITED debate, you said the following, BUT, you forgot numbers 10-14!!!

Islam is perfect religion

1 Islam has given us family system.
2 Islam has given us social system.
3 Islam has given us governmental system.
4 Islam gives judicial system.
5 Islam has given us educational system.
6 Islam has given us military or bureaucratic system.
7 Islam has given us police system.
8 Islam has given us teaching and guidance in each aspect of life.
9 Islam has given us punishment system.

10 Islam gives the authority for men to BEAT THEIR WIVES!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016/posts/388234
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016/posts/388500

11 Islam accepts that their founder Muhammad was a PEDOPHILE when he married a SIX YEAR OLD GIRL named Aisha, where he BEAT her too!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016/posts/388237
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016/posts/388408

12 Islam gives men the authority to marry prepubescent little girls and FU*K them as PEDOPHILES before they can even have babies!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016/posts/388516
https://iranpoliticsclub.net/photos/muslim-child-brides/index.htm

14 Islam provides a ritual where they are to CUT OFF THE CLITORIS of young girls so they do not enjoy the sext act!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016/posts/388599
https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEKW2UC

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WHO WANTS TO BE A STINKING AND ABHORRED MUSLIM IN THE 21ST CENTURY WITH THE ADDITIONAL ISLAM FACTS #10 THRU 14, RAISE YOUR HANDS!

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@tigerlord

PaperTiger, "the baby talk Muslim" as shown herewith: "For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there." https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53453

YOUR RUNAWAY QUOTE ONCE AGAIN IN YOU TRYING TO DEFEND YOUR CAMEL HUMPING ISLAMIC FAITH: "I am not here preaching right now but debating. I was very respectful and good, but you guys changed me."

What CHANGED YOU is the FACT that you cannot address the despicable facts of your STINKING Muslim faith that I have given you in this Comment Section, and therefore you have to RUN AWAY from it like a little boy crying to your mommy! You are a complete JOKE in being a "Carpet Kisser" Muslim, where I alone have shown you to be one of the biggest RUNAWAYS from your goat- humping Muslim faith that this esteemed Religion Forum has ever seen, bar none! Congratulations RUN AWAY Paper Tiger!

Now, to prove my point AGAIN that you cannot defend your abhorred Islamic religion, get your goat-herder Satanic ass into this thread NOW with no little boy excuses, for me to continue to Quran Slap you Silly in front of the membership, DO YOU UNDERSTAND RUNAWAY MOOOOOSLIM?

Here is the link AGAIN: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016-the-beauties-of-islam?page=4

WAITING!!!
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@tigerlord

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@Slainte

Open your eyes and see what i have did in comment section. in my society its even big deal. but as far as your society is concern, its just what even kids do in their formal conversations.
Why are you hyper about it?
i did not force you to debate with me.
i am being respectful with everyone who has been with me. in debate as well.
be careful next time do not debate with me.
tbh you are being child in debate. you do not know what you are talking and what you shall do for rebutting the arguments.
you are probably a child.

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@Slainte

You are a troll, you are simply trolling in debate.
There i no argument from you at all. Simply wasting my time. Most of the debates you won were by forfeit.
what happens in the comment section is not part of the debate. And i have not done anything bad in comment section. i guess you guys call it freedom of speech. I am not here preaching right now but debating. I was very respectful and good, but you guys changed me. Have you seen the behavior of that mad dog Thomas?
You are teaching me how to debate? lol
as far as arguments are concern, you have put none. Just expressed your personal opinion about your stuff.
history has repeated, my first debate on DDO was like that, a trolled one and a vote bomb. But all remaining were good.
TBH everyone who debated me just run away after few arguments. Because i remove skin from hairs.
your behavior in debate is the same.
you just keep emotions away from debates. But you become emotional and your last argument is totally filled with emotions. and you kind of left the debate.
emotional statement are not getting you anywhere.
About forfeit its loose for me unless you agree. But u do not have spirit of debate to compete with arguments and logic but, you used forfeit to win the debate, such a shame. Instead of complaining me, you shall remove this stupid Thomas by reporting.
Admin do you have anything for toxic guys like thomas? They are running the vibe of debating website. A brain-dead person shall not have any place being here.

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@tigerlord

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tigerlord, aka, "Paper Tiger, the baby talk Muslim" as shown herewith: "For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there." https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53453

Since this debate of yours is embarrassingly DONE in your behalf, get your sorry sweaty camel ass back into the forum where I will finish you off in making you the continued RUN AWAY from your primitive and sickening Islamic faith, OR ARE YOU TO SCARED TO CONTINUE and will come up with yet more " little boy lame excuses" to run away from your stinking Quran and your cess pool Islamic faith as I have shown in said link below? LOL!

Here is the link you are to return to NOW to try and save face in front of the membership and ALLAH GOD: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016-the-beauties-of-islam?page=4

Don't be SCARED, where YOU will have to address ALL, and I repeat, ALL of the posts that I gave to your cohort RUNAWAY Muslim "Path2Paradise" in showing the membership in just how sickening your Muslim faith truly is, and where I will bring forth other Islamic sickening FACTS for you to "TRY" and defend in the name of your GOAT-HUMPER god named Allah!

Remember, your camel-humper Allah god as well, is watching you for your decision to RUN AWAY IN DEFEAT in front of your family and friends, or stay in his behalf: "Fashion coats of mail and measure their links with care and act righteously. ‘I AM WATCHING OVER WHAT EVER YOU DO." (Qur’an 34:11)

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I'LL BE WAITING!!!!
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@Slainte

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Slainte,

YOUR QUOTE TO THE MUSLIM RUNAWAY "PAPER TIGER" FROM HIS SICKENING QURAN FACTS: "I do not consent to a reset. Nor will I debate you about this topic again. Your behaviour is not commensurate with someone I would like to interact with"

Barring what you think of me in having to show "Paper Tiger" to be the fool of his disparaging Islamic faith in the manner that I have shown, then in what you stated above could not be truer words!

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There is no direct way to reset a debate once it has started. Were there such a way, it would require explicit permission from both sides.

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@tigerlord

I do not consent to a reset. Nor will I debate you about this topic again. Your behaviour is not commensurate with someone I would like to interact with.

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@Barney

Can you reset this debate?

A better way to handle things at this point is to concede this one, but use existing arguments from before the forfeiture in a rematch.

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@tigerlord

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tigerlord, the "baby talk" Muslim as shown herewith: "For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there." https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53453

What you don't seem to realize is the blatant FACT that your camel humper Allah god is watching you RUNNING AWAY from at least "trying" to defend the Satanic Quran and his STENCHY and RANK smelling religion of Islam like you have done with me alone!

Therefore, since your goat-humper Allah god is WATCHING EVERYTHING you do, including your runaway status to your despicable Muslim faith, we can be sure that upon your earthly demise, you will be sent to JAHANNAM!

THE GOAT-HUMPER ALLAH GOD SAID: "Fashion coats of mail and measure their links with care and act righteously. ‘I AM WATCHING OVER WHAT EVER YOU DO." (Qur’an 34:11)

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NEXT UNGODLY JAHANNAM BOUND MUSLIM LIKE "TIGERLORD/PAPER TIGER" THAT RUNS AWAY FROM HIS CESS POOL FAITH OF ISLAM AS SHOWN BY NOT ADDRESSING MY POSTS 46, 51, AND 52, WILL BE ...?

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@tigerlord

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tigerlord, the "baby talk" Muslim as shown herewith: "For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there." https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53453

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Look at you, you can't even address my posts #46, #51, and #52, except to RUN AWAY from them and hide behind your camels, which shows your faith of Islam in being outright detestable! Therefore, how can you even continue with the debate in the first place, if you are going to RUN AWAY all the time to your sickening Islamic FACTS, whereas you are a PAPER TIGER, and have become SPEECHLESS! LOL!

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Mr. Paper Tiger, If you actually READ YOUR STINKING QUR'AN, you are not even supposed to be talking to me, or associating with me as a Christian, as shown in the following passage inspired by your repugnant camel humper god Allah! ....... "O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. And who so among you takes them for friends is indeed one of them. Verily, Allah guides not the unjust people." (Quran 5:52)

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Do yourself a BIG FAVOR, and bow out of this debate NOW, and run and hide from your foul smelling and nauseating Islamic faith, whereas if Slainte does not want to continue this debate, it will be a godsend in your behalf because we don't have to watch you TRY and defend Islam which is the most repulsive religion known to mankind at this time, understood?

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@tigerlord

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tigerlord, the "baby talk" Muslim as shown herewith: "For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there." https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53453

YOUR QUOTE TO ADMINISTRATION ABOUT YOU HAVING TROUBLE POSTING: "Why spaces are removed when argument is posted how it can check every single word from 30000 words argument. It seemed fine before posting, but after posting it removes spaces."

OH NO! Is this going to be your NEXT EXCUSE on why you can't defend your abhorred Islamic faith and your despicable god named Allah, and be somewhat intelligent looking in the aftermath?!

Instead of your moniker of "tiger lord," you should change it to "PAPER TIGER" instead because this meaning shows you to be a fake in outwardly trying to be powerful, but inwardly weak and ineffectual with your lame little Muslim boy responses throughout this comment section!

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Why spaces are removed when argument is posted how it can check every single word from 30000 words argument. It seemed fine before posting, but after posting it removes spaces.

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@tigerlord

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tigerlord, the "baby talk" Muslim as shown herewith: "For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there." https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53453

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YOUR QUOTE OF TRUTH TO YOUR ABHORRED FAITH OF ISLAM: "Islam is a complete code of life"

At the expense of innocent little prepubescent little Muslim GIRLS, it most certainly is a code of life as this link specifically shows TODAY how Muslim men can marry said prepubescent girls in being able to FU*K them until they can have babies, which is around 12 years old!

This disturbing link says it all about the Muslim Islamic faith relative to their PEDOPHILE men: https://iranpoliticsclub.net/photos/muslim-child-brides/index.htm

Who wants to be a PEDOPHILE camel-rider Muslim where the faith of Islam says you can have sex with young prepubescent little innocent girls where their tiny female genitalia is to small for the sweaty Muslim men to enter them ? Raise you hands!

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@tigerlord

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tigerlord, the "baby talk" Muslim as shown herewith: "For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there." https://www.debateart.com/debates/4394/comments/53453

YOUR CONTRADICTING QUOTE AGAIN!!!: "you want me to talk about that issue in forums?"

WAIT, you said before this quote of yours: "i do not read even 5% of your comment, i do not know why you bother to even comment when i never read them. it would be wastage of valuable time to even read them."

Therefore, can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E to your sickening Islamic faith AGAIN? What a moron you are! LOL!

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I told you that I DO NOT DEBATE in this venue, because of all the comical restrictions that you have set forth as one example, and the FACT that Jesus and I prefer the forums, understood? Now, if you are big of a chicken shit runaway to continue in the forums at this link: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016-the-beauties-of-islam?page=3 ...... then continue to run and hide, where I'll make you the continued fool nonetheless, understood?

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YOUR EXCUSE FOR YET ANOTHER RUNAWAY RESPONSE: "That is why this topic has been debated many times before and debater won debate.org. i tried too but bugs did not let me post my argument in last year."

Will you be using the EXCUSE shown above if Slainte allows you to continue in this debate if things aren't going you way? Too many "bugs" so you couldn't post your refutations at DDO? !!!ROFLOL!!!

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YOUR SICKENING QUOTE OF YOUR STUPID MUHAMMAD THAT MARRIED A SIX YEAR OLD GIRL CHILD AISHA: "Mother Aisha was precocious puberty. At the age of 9 to have menstruation shows his puberty reach to its final sprout "

H-E-L-L-O Muslim fool, you didn't mention that your stupid Muhammad marrying Aisha AT BEING SIX YEARS OLD, and the ramifications thereof! Furthermore, give exact FACTS, and not hearsay, where Aisha allegedly hit puberty at NINE YEARS OLD, and give FACTS that Muhammad wasn't fu*king her up until the time of her being 9 years old! Understood? Huh? Otherwise, Muhammad was a PEDOPHILE, and where your sweaty and stinky Muslim men are still PEDOPHILES in this day in marrying little prepubescent innocent little girls as this revealing link shows: https://iranpoliticsclub.net/photos/muslim-child-brides/index.htm

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If you don't run away from the forums link in question, Jesus and I are going to have a LOT OF FUN with you at your embarrassing expense in front of the membership! and your family members and friends as well if they are watching!

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@Phenenas

There is even more guidance, and there are many medical benefits in those practices.
What I gave was a little demo of everything.
Islam is a complete code of life

You're telling me Islam has a 15-step guide on how to shit properly?

Maybe it isn't so bad after all.

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@BrotherD.Thomas

you want me to talk about that issue in forums?
believe me i have done it many many times. they all become speachless.
i will do a full fledge debate after this debate.
if you really want you can join, I can challenge you or i can put it open and you can choose.
About this debate, i have already prepared arguments from DDO.
So i guess i can even start this debate even now.
But for little comfort for you let me share little data.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina
Mother Aisha was precocious puberty. At the age of 9 to have menstruation shows his puberty reach to its final sprout.
there is ton of data which your tiny brain could not handle right now.
that is why this topic has been debated many times before and debater won debate.org. i tried too but bugs did not let me post my argument in last year. But I posted them in comment section. There was a mad dog like u. which got shut.

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@Best.Korea

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YOUR LYING QUOTE ABOUT MY TRUE STATUS OF BEING A TRUE CHRISTIAN!!!: "Dont get too upset over BrotherD.Thomas. He is an atheist pretending to be Christian to attack Christians and muslims."

How dare you say such LIES, whereas many pseudo-christians have never come across a TRUE Christian like me that has forgotten more about the Bible than they will ever learn from it, especially like YOU! You have RAN AWAY from me easily making you the pseudo-christian fool because of your Bible stupidity in the forums so many times that I have lost count, and you want to call yourself a Christian, NO WAY JOSE! LOL!

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@tigerlord

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tigerlord, the "baby talk" muslim as shown here: "For it is blah-blah upon blah-blah, blah-blah upon blah-blah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, gah-gah upon gah-gah, a little here, a little there."

YOUR COMICAL AND CONTRADICTING QUOTE AGAIN: "Swine, link the post from forum and let me see what you got. Swine, you are garbage, i did not want to waste time with you at all. i am a very busy guy."

If you don't want to waste your time with me in blatantly making you the STUPID muslim fool again, and again, then why do you want me to link the post to you to to see what I got? HELLO, anybody home today, obviously not! LOL! Furthermore, you are a BUSY GUY making a fool of yourself as you have to RUN AWAY from my factual propositions about your sickening Muslim faith!

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YOUR COMICAL AND CONTRADICTING QUOTE #2: "A person with sound mind and little honor will understand when someone is ignoring your nonsense, then you should not embarrass yourself more."

The only one that is embarrassed as shown, is YOU, because you are going against your own words of allegedly ignoring my statements, when in fact, you are not doing it as shown throughout your goat-herder low intellect! LOL!

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YOUR PLEADING QUOTE FOR ME TO LEAVE SO AS TO NOT MAKE YOU THE PSEUDO-MUSLIM FOOL ANYMORE: "you should get lost from here."

As I have told you ad infinitum, I am NOT leaving this comment section of your lost debate, because if Slainte agrees to continue this debate, Jesus and I will remain here to continue to make you the camel-herder outright Muslim fool of your faith, DO YOU UNDERSTAND? HUH? MAYBE?

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YOUR RUNAWAY FROM ISLAM QUOTE WHERE YOU ARE TO ASHAMED TO EVEN TRY AND REFUTE MY FACTUAL WORDS RELATIVE TO YOUR DESPICABLE FAITH OF ISLAM: "i do not read even 5% of your comment, i do not know why you bother to even comment when i never read them. it would be wastage of valuable time to even read them."

You can run away from my FACTS to your faith until your camels come home, but in the meantime, it shows EVERYONE that you can't defend your Islamic faith, other than to RUN AWAY from it and HIDE from it like a SCARED little boy that you are, just like your fellow goat-herder Muslim Path2Paradise had to do to try and save face! Understood Muslim run away?

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Jesus and I will be waiting to see if Slainte allows you to continue, and if not, I will still make you the muslim fool that you are in this thread in the forum starting on page 3 and beyond: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8016-the-beauties-of-islam?page=3

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@Best.Korea

Yes, I can guess from his attitude. He can go insulting Prophet Jesus (PBUH). Which as Muslim we do not like at all.
I have been debating with posters and saints from Christianity, they behave very well. His behavior is of ignorant and mannerless. An empty utensil sounds a lot, there is proverb here.

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@tigerlord

Dont get too upset over BrotherD.Thomas. He is an atheist pretending to be Christian to attack Christians and muslims.