Instigator / Pro
9
1484
rating
12
debates
25.0%
won
Topic
#4517
i should be allowed to post my friends baby sister on 4chan
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
9
Better sources
6
6
Better legibility
3
3
Better conduct
0
3
After 3 votes and with 12 points ahead, the winner is...
Average_Person
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 5
- Time for argument
- Two weeks
- Max argument characters
- 30,000
- Voting period
- Six months
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
Contender / Con
21
1516
rating
20
debates
87.5%
won
Description
hes bosnian. bosnia must pay. thank you for listening. #Ye24 and maybe andrew tate as vice president god knows kamala isnt an option
Round 1
Pro
#1
For the sake of the argument, let's call my friend Mama Mia.
Mama Mia is this friend I have that's really quite a bland figure. He responds to everything I say with "dang" and gets offended whenever I make a joke about something that has no connection to his own life whatsoever. Typical liberal kid, amirite? But nah, he sends me these pictures of his little sister and expects me not to do something with them? Shoulda thought about that before you sent me that ho. Now I think to myself, what's the wildest thing I can do with this picture within reason? I know, I'll post it on 4chan's /b/ board cuz why the hell not?
Now you might argue that this is immoral, and to that I say really? This is immoral? Posting an inexplicit, normal pic of a little girl that doesn't reveal any information about this girl or Mama Mia that can be traced, on an image board on the internet that will literally erase itself within 24 hours of the post being up is immoral? Even if that was the case and it was "immoral", am I going to hell because of this one little event that both parties will forget about in the days to come? This is the tipping point? The "final straw" as Drake would say? I don't think so, pal.
That's all for now.
Con
#2
1. Preamble and BOP
I as CON must prove that PRO’s friend’s baby sister cannot be posted on 4chan, and identify at least one risk why. Conversely, PRO must prove that he should be allowed to post his friend’s baby sister on 4chan, and prove that there is no harm in doing so. Therefore, BOP is shared.
2 .Definitions
4chan - an anonymous English-language imageboard website, launched by Christopher "moot" Poole in October 2003.
/b/ - an anonymous image board on 4chan, one of the boards that has an NSFW designation.
3. Arguments
You don’t have permission
This is essentially defamation. A baby lives a harmless life, and then posting pictures to a NSFW section will essentially harm that baby’s reputation or create the false representation that a baby already wants be part of the NSFW community (clearly illegal!) [1].
Also, posting a baby’s picture puts the baby at risk for digital kidnapping (baby roleplaying). Someone can easily generate false details about the baby, claiming that it it his/hers when it actually belongs to your friend’s parents. This basically loses control over their identity [2]
Also, from that same source:
“one site offered at least 45 million images, half of which were photos of children taken from social media accounts. The photos were of everyday family activities, but were accompanied by inappropriate comments”[2]
Surely that is a risk of posting your friend’s baby sister to 4chan. 4chan can easily attract inappropriate comments to children, especially on the NSFW /b/ section. Clear defamation here, three risks included.
Posting to an NSFW section
You are posting a picture of a “baby” (under 18, obviously) to an NSFW subsection. You are either 1) asking others to make NSFW of a baby or 2) promoting your “baby” in an NSFW section. Normally, sites must verify that people in NSFW sections are 18+. Clearly a baby is not.
I don’t really need to explain this, because this is essentially unethical. The 1st one is illegal [3][4]. There’s two risks right there.
In the first round I proved 3+2=5 risks of posting your friend’s baby sister to 4chan.
Round 2
Pro
#3
This is essentially defamation. A baby lives a harmless life, and then posting pictures to a NSFW section will essentially harm that baby’s reputation or create the false representation that a baby already wants be part of the NSFW community (clearly illegal!)
But the pic I would post would be as normal as it gets, so it would have zero effect on the reputation of the small child, who doesn't even have much of a reputation to begin with.
You are either 1) asking others to make NSFW of a baby or 2) promoting your “baby” in an NSFW section. Normally, sites must verify that people in NSFW sections are 18+. Clearly a baby is not.
No, I'm putting it out there to piss him off and make him THINK it will get more out of hand than it actually will because his dumb, ignorant ass doesn't understand that not everything on the internet is what it seems at face value.
I don’t really need to explain this, because this is essentially unethical.
You can do mildly unethical things and still make it to heaven in the end. This point is useless.
Try again, batty boy.
Con
#4
But the pic I would post would be as normal as it gets, so it would have zero effect on the reputation of the small child, who doesn't even have much of a reputation to begin with.
Respectfully, please read over the risks from Round 1 that I have pointed out.
Also, posting a baby’s picture puts the baby at risk for digital kidnapping (baby roleplaying). Someone can easily generate false details about the baby, claiming that it it his/hers when it actually belongs to your friend’s parents. This basically loses control over their identity [2]Also, from that same source:“one site offered at least 45 million images, half of which were photos of children taken from social media accounts. The photos were of everyday family activities, but were accompanied by inappropriate comments”[2]Surely that is a risk of posting your friend’s baby sister to 4chan. 4chan can easily attract inappropriate comments to children, especially on the NSFW /b/ section. Clear defamation here, three risks included.
Ok "next argument".
No, I'm putting it out there to piss him off and make him THINK it will get more out of hand than it actually will because his dumb, ignorant ass doesn't understand that not everything on the internet is what it seems at face value.
Whatever 4chan community does is not in your control. Again, refer my previous argument of inappropriate comments
You can do mildly unethical things and still make it to heaven in the end. This point is useless.
Moving the goalpost. Heaven is entirely unrelated to this debate. That's a risk of 4chan, you're harming the baby's reputation by posting it in an NSFW section.
Conclusion:
Literally extending all arguments because none have been (reasonably) refuted.
Round 3
Con
#6
Dear Pro,
I hope you have been doing well. Nice to hear that you play TF2. I definitely like that.
However, this is a debate site. Extending all arguments.
I hope you have a great day!!!
Sincerely,
Average_Person
5/28/2023, 11:41 AM EDT
Round 4
Pro
#7
I got a question, if I may (Yeah)
Is it gay to play putt-putt golf with a friend? (Yeah)
And watch his butt-butt when he tees off? (Yeah)
But up, I ain't done yet
In football, the quarterback yells out, "Hut-hut"
And I don't need to go into any more details, but
What if he pictured it as a female's butt?
Is that gay? I just need to clear things up
'Til then, I'll just walk around with a manly strut
Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:
I think this qualifies as a foregone conclusion. Most of Con's arguments were dropped, while Pro continued posting things irrelevant to the resolution.
Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:
troll by Pro, basically FF
Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:
Call it a forfeiture or a foregone conclusion. Pro effectively missed over half the debate, leaving con to just extend repeatedly dropped points.
your yt has 1 video from 3 years ago.
I can't really tell if this is troll or fr