Round 1 scores were OUT OF 90 NOT 100. minus 10 from all my round 1 scores. Apologies, I calculated by subtraction.
Eminem and Tech N9ne
Both seem to agree on these 2. I put Em 4th, Pro puts him first. Pro does so as he's 'richer' than some below him, whereas I did it due to specific criteria and scoring rounded to the nearest 10% for each.
Tech N9ne being 5th or 6th surely is moot, we don't need to debate that.
K-Rino's placing
Both agree he is in top 10, I put him 10th, Pro 2nd. Pro has not justified this other than spamming songs. My issues lie in his delivery and perhaps 'aura' as well as that he is not consistently on fire tracks whatsoever, even some of what Pro has given shows whack production and delivery from Rino. He has 9/10 range, not 10/10, which also hurt his score.
Golden... Fucking... BSP
How this guy is in Pro's top 30 let alone top 10 is beyond me. I would rank this guy (that assumes his gender, he dresses very genderqueer so I am sorry if I misgendered) as folllows:
Range: 3/10
Delivery: 1/10
Flow: 7/10
Lyricism 1: 6/10
Lyricism 2: 7/10
Lyricism 3: 4/10
Ability to inspire others: 0/10
Consistently fire sound: 5/10
Evolution Factor: 3/10
Total: 36/100
I have no clue why Pro is posting the song's he's posting for BSP, they're mostly utter trash in my opinion, if we are to analyse rapping skill itself.
Webby, Sa-Roc and Apathy
I don't know why these aren't in Pro's top 10, especially Apathy. To rank BSP and Eazy Mac above any of my top 10 is sheer insanity, in my opinion.
KXNG Crooked
I mean... I get arguments that he's more a top 20 or top 30 rapper rather than top 10. The first I posted from him show how he likes to at times relax and spit lazier but still sick af in flow and such.
Vinnie Paz
He's just phenomenal on so many levels. What he has a problem with is he sticks to variations of being this 'thug gangster' in too much of his raps but his range lets him escape that in ways Apathy doesn't and that's Apathy's one hugest flaw. The fact Apathy ended up 3 on my scaling despite that gaping flaw of a 7/10 range shows if heincreased his range, I really think Apathy would be on part with and/or superior to Webby and Sa-Roc.
Sa-Roc's lack of evolution is not just a troll statistic. She did begin brilliant and this limited her evolution but she chose to also stick to a specific 'style' or sort of subgenre(s) within rap that while it has very decent range to it, she will never dish out boppers or such and can't do chilled out rap either.
That's where Webby is just fucking different. I genuinely think there will never be a rapper like Chris Webby again. It's his range. It's the fact you can be an idiot and like him or genius and like him. I don't think low IQ people can fully enjoy Sa-Roc the same as Webby. Sa-Roc dedicates to constantly high brow rap and this means she has a niche, which is ultimately a 'flaw' that holds her back from being a 90/90 rapper as well as the fact that therefore she can't hit 10/10 range.
Locksmith
I think Pro and I have very different reasons that we appreciate Locksmith. To me, he's a gimmick but so damn good at being it. He does that pseudo-intellectual saying-nothing-but-sounding-sick rap so well that he literally has 'concious raps' that say absolutely fuck all about society or what to fix in it but sound so deep. He is a poser but probably the single best poser in the entire industry. That's why I respect him. Locksmith fakes it better than anybody else. I'm a casual fan of him but I can't deny his skill, I will never be a Locksmith Stan, I see through his gimmick.
Merkules
He's always sad and depressed. He has literally 1 niche. Sometimes he goes more intimidating and furious, at other times more emo, this paralysing range as well as the monotone delivery and often 'meh' sounding tracks prevent him from top-10 status to me. Can the guy rap? Yes, lyrically he's up there no doubt. However, in everything other than the sheer lyricism and flow, he begins to falter. Even his evolution factor is an 8 to me, not a 10, he stuck to one niche and began brilliant at it. He went from doing drunk, emo covers of tracks to doing sad, emo originals with an intimidating aura rather than 'gimpy emo' instead... Not really much evolution but some, yes, I can also tell his flow has become apex over time rather than just good.
Asa and Mr Traumatik
Both of these, despite very different styles, are gaping 'no way to be top 10'. Asa has the production level of what I thinkhe actually is; an amateur dude in his basement with makeshift soudnproofing or when his parents are out. He's not really good at delivery at all, his flow is broken and all of that. He has talent at lyrics. I'm not ridiculing Asa, I think all of us on this site unless we had professional experience, sound kind of like Asa when we try. There's a difference between a top 10 rapper and a good rapper, Asa aint it. Not yet, at least. Shouldn't even be in the damn conversation.
Neither should Mr Traumatik. That guy's flow is so rough and jagged, idk what bars from him astound Pro but they're a minority for sure.
Eazy Mac
You know what's funny? I actually like Eazy Mac's raps at times (especially when BSP isn't rapping with him). I have him on a playlist or 2 and he's alright. He's a good rapper, like he has rapping talent and as much as I think he's a gimmick and not all that impressive as a person, I can dig him. I just have to wonder though... Why wasn't he higher on Pro's list? Like if you're gonna roll with Eazy Mac in your top 10, what the FUCK are you doing putting him below BSP, Traumatik and Asa? None of those, including, Mac, belong in a top 10 rapper end-list but only Eazy Mac at least deserves to be in the preliminary discussion.
I will admit it, this ridiculous shallow rapper has true talent at rap and has indeed refined it in a way that can impress. He should not be in a top 10 though. Just no. He only raps about drugs and literally dedicates to rapping nonsense but... Well... So do some in the top 10 at times. I can see how this guy can somewhat end up there to some using a different ranking system, he even has a lot of evolution factor to his rapping, he began pretty lame.
G-Mo Skee (not 55 wth lol)
Okay so the thing with this guy is he has too much niche to his stuff and he just was cursed with a really bad voice, on par with BSP. I think BSP could actually deliver semi-decently if he stopped the autotune and tried a different style. However, sometimes you have a voice that just can't sound truly pleasant. BSP and G-Mo Skee have this same problem. The real issue is that because G-Mo Skee dedicates to horrorcore nasty, angry rap, he has to shriek his voice to deliver the vibe/aura... Which doesn't work when your voice is high without sounding so irritating as hell.
Another issue is that he really doesn't have seamless flow, he pauses and has rigid structure. His best rap ever was actually one hedid with Paz imo:
I reckon Paz helped him refine his flow in it (as in helped G-Mo edit his bars, nothing wrong with it, G-Mo admits Vinnie taught himthings, I noticed after this collab that G-Mo began to flow better at least than he used to):
I like G Mo Skee as a rapper, he's talented indisputably but he is not a top 10. No way. Many flaws to his range and work (he's a 2/10 range guy).
Devlin
This dude is on another fucking level to anybody in the UK scene, first of all. Ghetts, Chip and P Money hold candles to him in their own ways but Devlin is truly, genuinely, on another level. Some will say I'm racist as I'm saying he's better than all the black rappers but he is just better, period. Idc what anyone says, he's a different breed, you can't explain it. There are rappers good like him in UK but who don't flex it how he does. Chip and Ghetts are definitely 2 of them. Chip and Ghetts go lazier at times, there's no denying it. They are not bringing their a-game every rap. Devlin is just so fucking brilliant that he doesn't even need a 10/10 range to his work to end up in the top 10. He really is refreshing too, he's evolved decently.
I can't tell you how good he is in words, I am telling you Devlin is good as my top 4, just in a different way.
Now let's show you 3 more masterpieces per rapper except the ones Pro showed for me:
KXNG Crooked (from same State as Lock)
Lie To Me ~ He is Crooked I, it was his old artist name
Devlin
Locksmith has 6 overall tracks given (same state as Crooked)
Vinnie Paz
Apathy (from same State as CW)
Sa-Roc
Chris Webby (Same state as Ap)
It's been a long, and I mean a long time since i've seen some of these people mentioned.
It's on my list to vote after the other rap battles.
Thanks for the vote.
Please vote if possible. I messed up my metrics as it's actually out of 90, not 100 and Webby is 87 not 86 but in general it's fine what I've done.
https://youtu.be/IuwI8jd0J78
Listen to this. This is what BSP tries to be, but 10x better.
https://youtu.be/pok8H_KF1FA
Skip to 1:50
She largely produces her own beats btw. She was a soundcloud grinder that made it big. Doja Cat is the right kind of gimmicky rapper, she knows how to do it and be it. BSP is nowhere near her even as a skilled gimmick rapper.
Doja Cat is a superior rapper to BSP, Traumatik and Asa.
You don't get how to rank.
You seriously undervalue delivery and quality of lyricism.
Asa is inaudible for over 65% of his rapping.
As we arent friends anymore and you seem to troll me every chat, Idk what to tell you or how serious to take any of this.
You are not the guy I enjoyed before. I was expecting a serious debate and clash, this was a steamroll.
I knew you would hate it lol
BSP in your top 3 is enough to ban you from the whole Internet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTgmcTFGMcY
THIS IS FIRE IN THE BOOTH 3 BY DEVLIN
i messed up the URL, apologies
Actually since I didn't represent them with an explanation, it's better to give you the three tracks I'd use in case you want to 'argue against' the 3 chosen which is not really the focus but whatever.
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKzzZKbkowk
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRnXBYiyzXQ
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL805nLCL20
please post them if you are willing to.
Fuck I forgot to show 3 Apathy tracks. Will do in next round.
that took a lot more effort to do than I thought it would.
The first rule is that you can suck my cock after it is dowsed with a fibonacci spiral of hot sauce. The second rule is that you must give your honest to God list, lest your soul be damned. The third rule is that you must only overlap if you can say that Jesus would come to earth and agree that you aren't overlapping just to fuck me. As long as you aren't trying to fuck me in Jesus Christ's holy name you may overlap. Or may your filthy soul be damned amen.
What are the rules about overlap?
Rino and Em are definitely in mine and depending what I decide later, Tech, Merk and Lock may be there too.