The Dark Knight (2008) is the greatest superhero movie of all time
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After 2 votes and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 3
- Time for argument
- One day
- Max argument characters
- 1,000
- Voting period
- One month
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
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"Some men aren't looking for anything logical. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn."
Gotham Knight is filled with characters that are easily sorted into the good or evil category.
I appreciate that con used a Batman movie for easier contrast.
Within the confines of this debate, I am left with the impression that DK was about The Joker, and had a shortage on character development (I loved their take on Joker; but no analysis was given to state why it was a good thing that he was a force of nature instead of a traditional character with relatable motives); in contrast GK was about Batman making mistakes and learning. Further, I got a real sense of a plot from GK with Batman injuring someone and regretting it.
Too many dangling questions were left by pro. Why was Heat not a better superhero movie if it’s what DK was based on? And why would a movie be the best merely for being live action and containing any one certain actor?
Video links would have gone a long way. The flip for example, if shown becomes a great moment, if just talked about it depends on the audience voting their bias.
ok
r1
- P describes only Joker (why only joker?) physical appearance and traits
- P says that Batman violates rights, sacrifices others to save ppl
- C says Gotham Knight is better
- C shows how Batman's morality changes in Deflector device.
- C says batman gave up this abaility, doesn't want to kill others.
r2
- P says GK is animated, DK is action w/lighting and plot
- P says DK was in ra real city, with real bg and people.
- C refutes saying DK was also good graphics, and also mentalities of characters
- C says GK had diversity in mentality and changing of ppl
r3
- P repeats point about DK having better graphics despite not citing anything or providing too much logic there.
- C clear example with GK not bein a clear "direct" good/evil, with an example of Batman in the sewer, businessman killing women, boy in gang, and Batman himself having ambiguous characters.
Arg - C
I'd say C victory here. C listed examples of reasoning in both r1 and r3, while P simply just stated reasons with little elaboration.
Src - tie
C used 1 source to tell audience what GK is.
P used none.
I can't really give points for that, since 1 source was not exactly used for an arg.
Leg - tie
ok on both
Cond - tie
ok on both
joker>>>
I thought I made formatting it like that to show reasoning per round to make all decisions clear 😭
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